After all, we have been seeing a lot of upsets and competitive fights lately and Beterbiev has only one fight in the last two years. Granted, so does Browne but weird things can happen when an inactive 36 year old is fighting someone with solid skills and pop. Browne has exceeded expectations in fights he was supposed to lose or struggle in while he has had bad performances in fights he was supposed to dominate in. Very inconsistent fighter but he has been training with Derrick James for this fight so at the very least you know he will be in good shape and be mentally prepared for the challenge. Browne's chin is not the greatest and Beterbiev is one of the best punchers in the game so on paper this looks like a mismatch....But I just don't know. Beterbiev did not look great in his last fight even though he pretty much dominated and had a stinker vs Koelling and got dropped by Johnson. He has some inconsistencies to his game as well. But at his best? We know just the type of force he is.
I favor Beterbiev, but think this could be a very interesting fight, especially if Browne survives the first half and is not put down or hurt too badly.
What do you guys think?
LHW was exciting when when Kovalev was prime. Sad to see how his career went downhill, and the division became stagnant and boring.
If Kovalev did not fight frequently or was not promoted well then we would be having the same conversations we are now.
Fact is, Top Rank have done poorly in promoting a lot of their top talent. Look at Crawford, as soon as he made money against Porter he ran away from Bob Arum. Why? Because he was poorly promoted and wasted his peak years and Arum was responsible for that.
Browne does well until he gets caught and goes into survival mode.
Browne needs space and range to throw his effective power shots. If Beterbiev pushes him back and gives him no space, a tall chinny fighter like Browne could end up kissing the canvas very early.
Personally I think Beterbiev finds his range very early and it is over by Round 4 to 5.
good fight, the biggest fight in LHWs since Beterbiev-Gvozdyk, the guy is younger, taller, rangier, quicker on his feet, also an ex-olympian and a southpaw, he has almost all the ingridients to pull off an upset, but, there's levels to this shit
wasn't a direct diss to you, I'm just saying in general, commentators act like hopeless contenders will pull off the upset. Just like Commey vs Lomachenko. Anyone with a fully functioning brain saw that ass whipping coming as soon as it was signed. Commey had no goddamn chance whatsoever.
Well NoBody has been predicting as many close fights as me when it comes to complete mismatches on paper,& I say Browne has a great shot at a lopsided decision in this fight.
After all, we have been seeing a lot of upsets and competitive fights lately and Beterbiev has only one fight in the last two years. Granted, so does Browne but weird things can happen when an inactive 36 year old is fighting someone with solid skills and pop. Browne has exceeded expectations in fights he was supposed to lose or struggle in while he has had bad performances in fights he was supposed to dominate in. Very inconsistent fighter but he has been training with Derrick James for this fight so at the very least you know he will be in good shape and be mentally prepared for the challenge. Browne's chin is not the greatest and Beterbiev is one of the best punchers in the game so on paper this looks like a mismatch....But I just don't know. Beterbiev did not look great in his last fight even though he pretty much dominated and had a stinker vs Koelling and got dropped by Johnson. He has some inconsistencies to his game as well. But at his best? We know just the type of force he is.
I favor Beterbiev, but think this could be a very interesting fight, especially if Browne survives the first half and is not put down or hurt too badly.
What do you guys think?
I give Browne an excellent shot at schooling Beterbieve if he can avoid getting caught(its like Fury v Wilder,Browne is a much better "boxer"(albeit with a randomly weak chin) but Beterbieve is far more dangerous with everything else.(If Browne be can fight like a matador the whole fight I give him a great shot at a schooling)
Stop hyping these fights? Dude, if I didn't make this thread, no one would have talked about this fight lol.
wasn't a direct diss to you, I'm just saying in general, commentators act like hopeless contenders will pull off the upset. Just like Commey vs Lomachenko. Anyone with a fully functioning brain saw that ass whipping coming as soon as it was signed. Commey had no goddamn chance whatsoever.
Remember, Hearn said it was IMPOSSIBLE to get opponents for Buatsi, since he was so devastating early on LOL.
Can't we just attribute this to Hearn being bad at moving prospects?
Anyways, Buatsi will be getting his shot soon. Hunter and Ward think pretty highly of Buatsi and the latter doesn't give that type of praise often. He needs to work on some things but he seems determined and won't just breakdown if the going gets tough.
Hearn is definitely at fault but more so is the team behind Buatsi, I know for a fact they turned the Johnson fight down, they pulled out of the Vlasov fight, the Caparello fight, rejected a chance to fight for the EBU title, immediately vacated the British title without defending it. It’s a very worrying pattern IMO. They’re clearly worried about something.
Depends on which Browne shows up...no question he has the talent and the natural abilities to pull off a huge upset but will he? We Shall See!
Beterbiev has his Flaws so he is no unbeatable by any stretch, also his Chin is very suspect so yes a upset is very possible here
no. And we need to stop hyping these bs fights and see them for what they are.
Stop hyping these fights? Dude, if I didn't make this thread, no one would have talked about this fight lol.
YES, Big Marcus Browne is a great fighter with a great amateur pedigree who has real skill and hits hard, don't get me wrong I favor Beterbiev to win, but Marcus is a live dog.
Yeah I've only seen the highlights admittedly. Maybe a kernel of truth to it but seems more likely just an off night in combination with finally being matched with someone he couldn't get out of there early.
Yeah, just one of his off performances....You could say there is some truth to what Anber said if that was his only mediocre performance but he's had a few of them. Some fighters just run hot and cold. As long as he steps it up in his big fights then it's not a huge issue.
I just think Buatsi is still so unproven. I rated Buatsi in the amateurs and he was a guy I had high hopes for but the way he’s been matched is a MAJOR red flag for me. I think it’s either they’re protecting him from being exposed or he simply lacks the ambition. I can’t really work it out but something isn’t right about it.
Remember, Hearn said it was IMPOSSIBLE to get opponents for Buatsi, since he was so devastating early on LOL.
Can't we just attribute this to Hearn being bad at moving prospects?
Anyways, Buatsi will be getting his shot soon. Hunter and Ward think pretty highly of Buatsi and the latter doesn't give that type of praise often. He needs to work on some things but he seems determined and won't just breakdown if the going gets tough.
More likely he just gets KTFO instead of him moving around the ring if he gets hurt lol. Derrick James does not really train for that style. Charlo used to move a whole a lot with Ronnie Shields but completely changed his style once he got with James and we all know how Spence likes to fight. He trains to put smart pressure and box behind the jab. Beterbiev is an animal though so let's see the game plan for him.
You're not high on Buatsi, but he legitimately may become champion in 2022!
I just think Buatsi is still so unproven. I rated Buatsi in the amateurs and he was a guy I had high hopes for but the way he’s been matched is a MAJOR red flag for me. I think it’s either they’re protecting him from being exposed or he simply lacks the ambition. I can’t really work it out but something isn’t right about it.
Yeah, I hope he is on his game and has a good performance. Last dominant performance at 175 was......? Seriously, it's been a freaking awful division for a few years now.
Beterbiev stopping Gvodzyk is the last one I remember.
Nah man, I was there in the arena that night...Dude was just legitimately mediocre as hell lol. It was just a bad fight overall and Koelling certainly contributed to the boring fight. He was a bit tricky, I will give him that.
Yeah I've only seen the highlights admittedly. Maybe a kernel of truth to it but seems more likely just an off night in combination with finally being matched with someone he couldn't get out of there early.
Not particularly, I just don’t think he’ll be able to stick and move with Beterbiev’s power, I think he’ll be very wary about staying in the pocket.
More likely he just gets KTFO instead of him moving around the ring if he gets hurt lol. Derrick James does not really train for that style. Charlo used to move a whole a lot with Ronnie Shields but completely changed his style once he got with James and we all know how Spence likes to fight. He trains to put smart pressure and box behind the jab. Beterbiev is an animal though so let's see the game plan for him.
You're not high on Buatsi, but he legitimately may become champion in 2022!