Oh I see your saying Pac s better than nel o and Floyd by stopping cotto, cw don't matter.
Marco 2x, Morales 3x, Bradley 3x, JMM 4x = 12x
Cotto* and Horn = 1x each :lol1: !
The fact that Pac fought HORN at all was disgraceful.
How many *'s did Pac force on his opponents ?
His own people call him the CW King
Stop the BS. You shift depending on if it’s Manny with the cw. I’m just using your criteria against Manny because you’re a fan.
I don’t care about cw’s because I’m not trying to make guys lower than they are.
Oh I see your saying Pac s better than nel o and Floyd by stopping cotto, cw don't matter.
Yeh I'm testing you to see if cw matter. So your saying cott o cw with pac counts against Pac but nelos cw against Floyd dont?
Stop the BS. You shift depending on if it’s Manny with the cw. I’m just using your criteria against Manny because you’re a fan.
I don’t care about cw’s because I’m not trying to make guys lower than they are. You do that to try and lessen Floyd’s win over canelo because Manny doesn’t have one as good as it.
Cotto was a cw for Manny. You posted cw’s take away from the win.
he also had been ko’d so as you posted he was damaged goods so the win shouldn’t count.
Cotto was not drained when he fought canelo or Floyd. He was on win streak when Floyd beat him.
Yeh I'm testing you to see if cw matter. So your saying cott o cw with pac counts against Pac but nelos cw against Floyd dont?
No, Pac s better. He stopped cotto. Nel o couldn't even do that
Cotto was a cw for Manny. You posted cw’s take away from the win.
he also had been ko’d so as you posted he was damaged goods so the win shouldn’t count.
Cotto was not drained when he fought canelo or Floyd. He was on win streak when Floyd beat him.
No, Pac s better. He stopped cotto. Nel o couldn't even do that
Cotto said Floyd is better he knows more than you ever will, he fought Floyd not drained and that makes all the difference, Manny wanted none of the Cotto that Floyd beat.
I didn’t post anything like that. I posted he retired and came back.
manny did cws as well.
floyd is just better.
No, Pac s better. He stopped cotto. Nel o couldn't even do that
Using the canelo and Floyd's fight from last decade doesn't help to answer the question. There are some major factors which would change in the event of a rematch.
A) Floyd wouldn't be able to weight drain canelo down again.
B) canelo is no longer a green teenager
C)now that Floyd is a confirmed ped user, both fighters would have to use a neutral unbiased testing agency. Floyd can no longer pay usada to hide his positive ped tests and grant him a tue 2 weeks after the fact for illegal iv.
Floyd already struggled to beat him the first time around. I don't see Floyd winning against canelo with those 3 factors no longer in play
When did Floyd test positive for PED’s?
I like many boxers, your just a Floyd die-hard and you ha te pac. You know nothing about barrera that's relevant. You claim barrera was past prime just cos he had wars? Well how past prime was Pac with his 70 fighters when Floyd beat pac?
History of boxing has traditionally put value in fighting outside backyard or stepping up 2 divisions would be seen as impressive but just because Floyd s not done it, floyd fans don't put any value in it, things floyd s not did Floyd fans don't respect? Floyd fans only talk unbeaten revords? Anything Floyd does is what Floyd fans respect. CWs, ivs are things history of sport don't really like but Floyd diehards do? Floyd fans logic is all twisted and reversed?
I didn’t post anything like that. I posted he retired and came back.
manny did cws as well.
floyd is just better.
Using the canelo and Floyd's fight from last decade doesn't help to answer the question. There are some major factors which would change in the event of a rematch.
A) Floyd wouldn't be able to weight drain canelo down again.
B) canelo is no longer a green teenager
C)now that Floyd is a confirmed ped user, both fighters would have to use a neutral unbiased testing agency. Floyd can no longer pay usada to hide his positive ped tests and grant him a tue 2 weeks after the fact for illegal iv.
Floyd already struggled to beat him the first time around. I don't see Floyd winning against canelo with those 3 factors no longer in play
I watched the sport for over 15 years before Floyd boxed professionally and still watch it now that he is retired.
You’re a know nothing Manny cum slurper. You only know Manny and his fights. .
I like many boxers, your just a Floyd die-hard and you ha te pac. You know nothing about barrera that's relevant. You claim barrera was past prime just cos he had wars? Well how past prime was Pac with his 70 fighters when Floyd beat pac?
History of boxing has traditionally put value in fighting outside backyard or stepping up 2 divisions would be seen as impressive but just because Floyd s not done it, floyd fans don't put any value in it, things floyd s not did Floyd fans don't respect? Floyd fans only talk unbeaten revords? Anything Floyd does is what Floyd fans respect. CWs, ivs are things history of sport don't really like but Floyd diehards do? Floyd fans logic is all twisted and reversed?
Your a Floyd fan not a boxing fan and anything you say confirms that
I watched the sport for over 15 years before Floyd boxed professionally and still watch it now that he is retired.
Everything I post confirms that.
You’re a know nothing Manny cum slurper. You only know Manny and his fights. You had no idea about Barrera because you don’t follow the sport.
Don’t be upset that a knowledgeable fan like me made you look like an idiot pole smoker.
Learn the sport.
After he retired and came back. Sorry but you can’t have it both ways.
You don’t even believe this. No it wasn’t. It was equal to JMM
Your a Floyd fan not a boxing fan and anything you say confirms that. Nel o has surpassed lil floyd. Nel o takes , ggg, bjs,smiths, plants zero in as many fights or steps up 2 divisions, whilst Floyd beats people's used goods, with cw in backyard with ivs.
Yes he was stopped and came back stronger, was on a near 4 year, 8 winning streak - beating morales, hamed and Kevin kelly.
Barrera was a great win for Pac better than anything on floyds resume.
After he retired and came back. Sorry but you can’t have it both ways.
You don’t even believe this. No it wasn’t. It was equal to JMM
He had been stopped and retired and came back. Sorry but that is the truth. If Manny isn’t a great win, neither is Barrera.
You can’t have it both ways.
Yes he was stopped and came back stronger, was on a near 4 year, 8 winning streak - beating morales, hamed and Kevin kelly.
Barrera was a great win for Pac better than anything on floyds resume.
Barrera was on a 8 run win streak and was pfp no1 or 2 and was favourite against pac. Floyd was favourite against pac as pac is a former light flyweight. Your half way right that Pac wasn't a great win for floyd just like it wasn't for horn.
He had been stopped and retired and came back. Sorry but that is the truth. If Manny isn’t a great win, neither is Barrera.
You can’t have it both ways.
Barrera was retired and came back. He also had been stopped. These are facts. So he was damaged goods.
Manny was p4p #2 when Floyd beat him. So if the Manny win is no good, neither is Barrera.
Barrera was on a 8 run win streak and was pfp no1 or 2 and was favourite against pac. Floyd was favourite against pac as pac is a former light flyweight with 70 fights under belt. Floyd s whole career he only had 49 fights so you can imagine how worn Pac was. Doesn't take einstein to figure out that one.
Your half way right that Pac wasn't a great win for floyd just like it wasn't for horn.
of course people conclude it was the weakest version of nelo, what do you think CW was for, Floyd wanted a weak nelo? What, you think the CW was to get a strong nelo? The boxing world knows the cw was to weaken nelo, so why would people then conclude it was a strong version of nelo? You know how maidena made life hell for floyd. Nel o can do that now, he'd not let floyd off hook.
barrera beat na seen hamed and was pfp no1 or 2 who did nel o beat? How is barrera not better win lol?
You need to try make a better job of pretending your a boxing fan rather than floyd diehard.
Barrera was retired and came back. He also had been stopped. These are facts. So he was damaged goods.
Manny was p4p #2 when Floyd beat him. So if the Manny win is no good, neither is Barrera.
People haven’t concluded anything.
D1ck gobbling Manny stan cum gurglers that can’t get over his losing to Floyd, like you and djtmal, say this is the weakest version of Canelo because Manny doesn’t have as quality a win on his resume.
Barrera was out of retirement and had been stopped by Jones.
of course people conclude it was the weakest version of nelo, what do you think CW was for, Floyd wanted a weak nelo? What, you think the CW was to get a strong nelo? The boxing world knows the cw was to weaken nelo, so why would people then conclude it was a strong version of nelo? You know how maidena made life hell for floyd. Nel o can do that now, he'd not let floyd off hook.
barrera beat na seen hamed and was pfp no1 or 2 who did nel o beat? How is barrera not better win lol?
You need to try make a better job of pretending your a boxing fan rather than floyd diehard.
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