No idea why these two events would be scheduled on the same night. Who wins the PPV sales on November 6th? The #1 P4P Boxer, Canelo Alverez or the stacked UFC 268 event featuring Usman-Covington 2?
Opinions?
Tough decision, I'll probably end up buying both, but ESPN app has been very trash lately can't even stream a normal event it just wants to play the highlighted events of the day some stupid previews of soccer or college football games and it wont go to my desired event lol
People coming to my crib to watch only care about Canelo, I'm really hyped evenly for Usman vs Colby n the Nelo fight maybe a slight edge for the UFC, I'm super hyped for the UFC card, for the PBC I probably won't even watch very disgraceful undercard but I guess Nelo took all the budget small sacrifice for an intriguing match up
Its already happened multiple times tbf. Conor/Khabib did more buys than both Canelo/GGG fights combined.
I do think people are underselling Canelo/Plant a little here though. Based on Canelos PPV track record, Plant being a flashy undefeated American and the face off confrontation this should do well. I expect the UFC to do 600-700k, MAYBE up to 800k. I think it will be close, but if the UFC DOES blow away Canelo/Plant like many here are suggesting it will, that is a pretty bad L for boxing tbh, because we are talking about the biggest draw in boxing in probably his biggest fight since 2018, whereas the UFC can put out PPVs like this one every few months, it aint even Conor.
My sentiments exactly. I think the UFC will do 800k-900k, where Canelo-Plant may do 600k. Hard to say because both are on the same night forcing fans/casuals to decide which one to purchase. Like you said, if UFC's #'s blow Boxing's #'s out of the water, it'll be a big L for boxing.
If UFC outsells Canelo, what does that say about boxing?
I heard Canelo will wait too until that fight is over before going to the ring for his fight
Its already happened multiple times tbf. Conor/Khabib did more buys than both Canelo/GGG fights combined.
I do think people are underselling Canelo/Plant a little here though. Based on Canelos PPV track record, Plant being a flashy undefeated American and the face off confrontation this should do well. I expect the UFC to do 600-700k, MAYBE up to 800k. I think it will be close, but if the UFC DOES blow away Canelo/Plant like many here are suggesting it will, that is a pretty bad L for boxing tbh, because we are talking about the biggest draw in boxing in probably his biggest fight since 2018, whereas the UFC can put out PPVs like this one every few months, it aint even Conor.
UFC PPV is going to sell more and it won't be close. Canelo has a horrendous undercard and even the main event most odds makers and fans see it as a mismatch. Other then it being marketed as Undisputed this is not seen as a close fight or intriguing fight. UFC has a stacked card with close and intriguing fights from top to bottom.
IF I had to decided which to purchase, I'd go with UFC all day long. I am a bigger boxing fan then UFC by 10 fold, but the value is much better for UFC. I pay for a streaming service that gets me all the PPV's. I will watch the UFC event exclusively and like others have mentioned, the Canelo-Plant event probably wont start until the UFC event is over, in which case I will just switch over to boxing.
UFC PPV is going to sell more and it won't be close. Canelo has a horrendous undercard and even the main event most odds makers and fans see it as a mismatch. Other then it being marketed as Undisputed this is not seen as a close fight or intriguing fight. UFC has a stacked card with close and intriguing fights from top to bottom.
Canelo vs Plant will double the ufc gate. That is just a fact. Boxing mega gates are far bigger than mma mega gates. People forget that Canelo literally has a whole country (Mexico population 130 million) that stops when he fights. PPV Buys are a bit tricky the ufc always adds in international buys when Boxing never does.
The crazy thing is the B side Caleb Plant will earn more than both of the main event fighters in the ufc main event. That is one thing I don't understand is people say how big ufc is when the fighters are getting paid absolute $ hit.
That has always been my distain for Dana White and UFC brand. Their superstars get paid crap compared to what a challenger to a champion gets paid. It's absolutely crazy how these guys put up with the amount of money they get paid, but yet a Paul brother gets paid millions. It drives me crazy.
Usman vs Covington will do a million. I dont know what Canelo Plant will do. I want to see my girl Zhang Weili get her belt back, so I'll watch both
It's going to be a great fight for sure. However, I'm Thug Rose all the way!
So? Who the hell buys a ppv event for the undercards anyways?
Its not really a thing in boxing but the UFC has always been built more around whole cards. If a UFC PPV doesnt have at least 2 fights outside of the main event that are on the level of a solid free card main event, its considered weak. Some of the more stacked PPVs go well beyond that, last weekends card had like 2 PPV main event caliber fights + four fights that could have all independently headlined a regular free card.
You're insande. You obviously don't know the history of Usman and Covington. Everyone will be watching that fight. Canelo and Kovalev fight didn't wait to do UFC a favor, they did it for themselves. Masvidal and Diaz was a more intriguing and exciting fight on paper AND in the octagon. Don't play yourself lol.
Ive been a hardcore MMA fan for like 20 years, so yes I am fully aware of the history of Usman/Colby. Its obviously a much better card top to bottom than the Canelo card, but Canelo is a bigger star than either guy and this is his biggest fight in years. The Jorge/Nate fight was different because Jorge at that time had briefly become one of the biggest stars in combat sports, and Nate is very well known too, while Canelo was on an obscure experimental upstart streaming service in a less mainstream appeal fight than this upcoming one.
Edit: More I think about it the more I am reconsidering it tbf, it could go either way imo, but it should be quite close. I dont think one is going to steamroll the other. Regardless its one battle out of a war that the UFC is very clearly winning.
So? Who the hell buys a ppv event for the undercards anyways?
Real Fans of the sport. No one wants to sit through 4 hours of bs to see a one sided main event.
I think Canelo/Plant may actually do better. Canelo is a big star and this is his return to traditional PPV, against an American fighter. Its probably his most high profile fight since GGG. I think this does between 700-900k while 268 does in the 600-700k range. I will be watching the UFC live though because **** that Canelo/Plant undercard.
You're insande. You obviously don't know the history of Usman and Covington. Everyone will be watching that fight. Canelo and Kovalev fight didn't wait to do UFC a favor, they did it for themselves. Masvidal and Diaz was a more intriguing and exciting fight on paper AND in the octagon. Don't play yourself lol.
Canelo vs Plant will double the ufc gate. That is just a fact. Boxing mega gates are far bigger than mma mega gates. People forget that Canelo literally has a whole country (Mexico population 130 million) that stops when he fights. PPV Buys are a bit tricky the ufc always adds in international buys when Boxing never does.
The crazy thing is the B side Caleb Plant will earn more than both of the main event fighters in the ufc main event. That is one thing I don't understand is people say how big ufc is when the fighters are getting paid absolute $ hit.
Who cares about that bs. Wilder has made a fortune with just a punch and a big mouth, but very limited skills, which now accounts for a percentage of active fighters. UFC just gets on with the fights, while boxers are only talking about fighting each other and hiding behind promoters. The main reason UFC was able to gain so much ground was due to boxing being diluted with so many belts that they are little more that participation trophies now.
Too many show ponies in boxing with a "I'll fight who they tell me to" mentality, when they should be asking for fights to be made. We just want to see quality fights, which UFC puts on consistently.
I think Canelo/Plant may actually do better. Canelo is a big star and this is his return to traditional PPV, against an American fighter. Its probably his most high profile fight since GGG. I think this does between 700-900k while 268 does in the 600-700k range. I will be watching the UFC live though because fuck that Canelo/Plant undercard.
I am both huge boxing fan and MMA fan I want to buy both but Canelo vs Plant PPV looks very weak compared to UFC 268. UFC 268 is a stacked card I want to support the sport of boxing but aside from main card it doesn’t look that great on paper your thoughts?
Fury vs Wilder 3 was the best fight of this year in both sports imo.
you're gonna compare ONE BIG FIGHT in boxing to every month the UFC having the champion face a #1 or 2 contender or the #3 and #4 fighting each other to move up in the rankings? This happens EVERY PPV. Every card is stacked. You don't get the GGG vs Murat or Canelo vs Yildrim fights. Hell no. the UFC would never do a 4 month buildup and have Adesanya fight some guy they pulled off the street headlining a ppv card. That's that bs. If Boxing followed UFC's standards, we'd get a ppv with Crawford vs Spence as the undercard would be Ennis vs Ortiz and Benn vs Thurman. But we know that shit will never happen!!!!
I don't care about all of that bs. All I care about is seeing quality fights and Boxing has not supplied us with that in all of 2021.
Boxing November schedule is fantastic: Canelo vs Plant, Munguia vs Rosado, Crawford vs Porter, Teofimo vs Kambosos and Fulton vs Figueroa
I don't care about all of that bs. All I care about is seeing quality fights and Boxing has not supplied us with that in all of 2021.
Fury vs Wilder 3 was the best fight of this year in both sports imo.