Boxers today aren't cut from the same cloth as their predecessors. Back then they used to fight for glory and truly wanted to prove that they were the best, the money was just a side reward.
Nowadays boxers don't fight each other because of "How much PPV he makes" or "nobody knows who he is" and stupid shit like that. Boxers are content with making millions to beat up C level fighters instead of taking risks and leaving a lasting legacy in the sport.
Pre 90’s boxers are trash and ped cheats. Fights back then had no drug testing. Almost all fighters were juiced to the gills.
pre 90s?
lol the only test they had were worthless until about 2008ish when they started random testing. before that it was a simple pre/post fight test
also they still all doing PEDs, they just have more sophisticated evasion methods. Also the reason guys in the 80s and 90s looked like bodybuilders is they were using bodybuilders steroid cycles because that is who developed them but that isnt ideal for a stamina and speed sport like boxing. Then things like EPO came out and guys like conte who would make custom cycles focused for boxers. They dont use the same steroids/methods they did in the 80s and 90s, they use better things now.
Facts..... Lmao..... Look at his response to me.... I'ma internet thug cuz I have a model holding a rifle in my profile picture. And this fool can't come up with anything else for a year str8.
Either that or scratching African ass??? Lmao
Kids don't do drugs lmaoooo
NonceEm is the literally the definition of an internet tough guy. That kid’s never thrown a punch in his life. :lol1:
The dude ain’t right in the head man. He comes out with these crazy takes and when people naturally question them, suddenly everybody is stalking him. Then it’s the same tired response again and again about scratching booty, Africans and all this other irrelevant sh**.
He probably is on f***ing crack. :lol1:
Facts..... Lmao..... Look at his response to me.... I'ma internet thug cuz I have a model holding a rifle in my profile picture. And this fool can't come up with anything else for a year str8.
Either that or scratching African ass??? Lmao
Kids don't do drugs lmaoooo
I’ve never been a Wilder fan. Always been team Fury, the one and only Elite Heavyweight in the World today.
You’re just still salty that AJ got stopped by a fat C level fighter and schooled by Usyk whilst Fury and Wilder were delivering an ATG HW trilogy that will go down in history.
Fury > Wilder > AJ. And you know it.
Discussion: Ali and Ray Robinson. But somehow squeezed Froch in.
Yes, AJ and Whyte fought better opponents than Froch ever did. Froch’s division was trash and Pascal lost to a 46-yr old man.
And AJ has a better resume than Froch. Only an idiot would say otherwise.
Froch is more known for commentary on Skysports than boxing. And Hearn spent more money on him than any other boxer (including AJ) and probably took a lot of losses because he was never a draw.
Who cares about number or draws all that means is the casuals favour the big good looking black guy haha
True boxing fans appreciate froch and his fights ...let's put it this way if he was in there with usyk he'd be trying to put some hurt on him win lose or draw and he most certainly wouldn't need the ropes to hold him up in the 12th round if they were of similar stature let alone outweighing him and being 3 to 4 inches taller
you mention Pascal lost to hopkins over and over ..hopkins is an atg and hung in with an undefeated extremely dangerous kovalev who let's not forget floored a great fighter in Andre Ward...thats real power
Aj was beaten to a pulp by a guy with no credentials who has recently gone life and death with Chris 40 year old arreola who is nowhere near hopkins level or championship calibre
AJ and Dillian Whyte have taken more tough fights than Froch ever took in his career (especially AJ with 12 championship fights in 26 fights). Where’s the love for them?
Yeah I “squeezed” Froch into the conversation. Oh wait it was you. :lol1: :lol1:
Checkmate you dumb c***. :lol1:
The dirty ffffcker is back. :lol1: This booty scratching bonobo stalks me more than fffffcking slags.
A biased Wilder fan and muppet who thinks Wilder is an elite boxer says I have crazy takes. :lol1:
Go wipe yer butt and stop suffocating me.
You’ve absolutely lost it.
I’m not even a Wilder fan. :lol1:
Wilder is nearly as delusional as you, and he’s never been elite.
Very good Heavyweight though, he leaves AJ twitching IMO.
Cretin…
Hearn was his promoter ?? Yet you say Joshua fights great opposition ??
Froch never had a glass jaw and confidence issues he was screaming for the best guys and he wouldn't negotiate over money he wanted in there to tale out the best and build up his name...
I never said froch was an atg I said he would fight anybody...if you seriously think Pascal and froch wasn't a high calibre fight then maybe you should go back and watch whyte vs Joshua for the 100th time and convince yourself even more so that they're two atgs fighting for tbe title
If an undefeated PRIME Pascal is a “bum” what does that make 40 year old Pulev, Povetkin, Wlad, fat out of shape Andy Ruiz, Charles Martin and all these other guys who are supposedly “great opponents”?
Such hypocrisy from that clown.
No, these people irk me. Are they the only ones here? How come it’s the same bunch of losers that stalk me everyday under different alts and their real usernames? And it’s always the same repetitive shhiitt. Fffck them!
I’ve a right to post and do whatever I want here without some dirty ffffckers suffocating me every day with the same nonsense. I don’t even read their posts or check for them. What’s so hard in doing the same thing?
No, I was talking about Ali and Ray Robinson and some muppet squeezed ffffcking Froch into it hence I mentioned AJ and Whyte. Same promoter and same country .
You love playing the victim don’t you? :lol1:
You tried to say AJ and even more egregiously Dillian Whyte had fought better competition than Carl Froch, so me and several other posters called you out on that BS take and now you’re crying about it.
Grow up man.
Lmao..... This guy just says shyt regardless of how much it makes no sense. I'm convinced he smokes crack.
and what's this obsession with scratching man ass? It's weird.
The dude ain’t right in the head man. He comes out with these crazy takes and when people naturally question them, suddenly everybody is stalking him. Then it’s the same tired response again and again about scratching booty, Africans and all this other irrelevant sh**.
He probably is on f***ing crack. :lol1:
Pascal was trash and is still trash. All these guys get rated because the division is trash. You’re a fffcking bum if you had to draw and lose to a 46-yr old in 2 fights. Kessler, Bute, Arthur Abraham? - the division was trash.
The only two decent boxers he fought were Ward and Dirrell and both boxed his ears off. And Ward didn’t use his usual fouling tactics.
I don’t think Froch was all that. And he if were as good as you lot are trying to rewrite history and make him look in posterity - he would’ve been a draw in the U.K. He wasn’t a boring fighter and he fits the stereotypical boxers the average Brits like. Yet no one really cared about him. Hearn was also his promoter. That alone should tell you about his level of opponents. Hence no one cared. When talking about great British boxers - he never gets mentioned and he’s more known for commentary than boxing tbh.
Anyway, let’s stick to the topic - that middle weight era was trash. Pascal is a bum.
Hearn was his promoter ?? Yet you say Joshua fights great opposition ??
Froch never had a glass jaw and confidence issues he was screaming for the best guys and he wouldn't negotiate over money he wanted in there to tale out the best and build up his name...
I never said froch was an atg I said he would fight anybody...if you seriously think Pascal and froch wasn't a high calibre fight then maybe you should go back and watch whyte vs Joshua for the 100th time and convince yourself even more so that they're two atgs fighting for tbe title
Dirty Africans. Go take a shower and stop stalking me with yer odour! You stink!
I don’t post to you muppets - do the same and stop stalking me.
Dirty African?? Are you not the guy that would swallow Joshua's sweaty post training schlong if you had the chance?
Froch got shut out in a fight and didn’t even win a rd against Ward. And that’s the only Olympics gold medalist and HoFer he fought.
Who did Pascal beat when he fought Froch? You mean the same Pascal that lost to 46-yr old B-Hop?:lol1:
You’re a certified idiot! :lol1:
Andre Ward shut out everyone excluding a dangerous kovalev when he had a long lay off and stepped up a division and one slip up against boone..
Andy only dominated burger joints before he slapped aj all over the place ...Andy ruiz must be an Olympic gold medalist
maybe if froch fought kaitlyn jenner you'd have more respect for him
If I seriously have to point out how good an opponant Pascal was then you're a lost cause..he's not as good as usyk who Joshua lost to but he's leagues above anyone else Joshua fought at the time he fought them
You quote me all the time you nutcase. :lol1:
I’m African now? That’s funny I was American last week according to you.
F***ing crackhead.
Lmao..... This guy just says shyt regardless of how much it makes no sense. I'm convinced he smokes crack.
and what's this obsession with scratching man ass? It's weird.
AJ and Dillian Whyte have taken more tough fights than Froch ever took in his career (especially AJ with 12 championship fights in 26 fights). Where’s the love for them? Get Froch out of here - he was babied by Hearn and spoonfed champs in his backyard in Nottingham.
Jesus..... Everytime I think you can't get any lower you find a way to do it.
Get off AJ dck and the only reason you gassing Whyte up is to gas up AJ.
At least they fought each other.
Only when they got paid the highest dollar they could get,,,,, hmmmm at the core nothings really changed from then, only now everybody knows about a fight in minutes and the worlds best fighters don't have to get their friends to drive around town nailing posters onto anywhere they can put one, this isn't then, the economy, the internet, the number of Champions, the speed of everything today, people fundamentally haven't changed much, they just became more educated to the dollar and what's in it for them, and instead of standing around a radio, you got it on your phone and the world tuning in and paying to do it, the business in boxing is all pretty much the same, just that it has evolved to fit in with the 20th Century.
Pro Boxing at the top is not about the macho, that's just what is spoon fed to young men's hormones in order to sell tickets, hate to break to you its all business on top of the tree, and today's tree is soooooo much bigger.
Do you actually think people read this blabbering nonsense? :lol1:
Get a life and stop crying about people “stalking” you ya mad nonce.
I do read. The repetitive "dirty Africans" part needs to go completely in all forms. That offends me.
:lol1::lol1:
You wish. :lol1:
Booty scratcher thinks I called him American because I said he’s not from the U.K and he doesn’t know basic geography. :lol1:
I know the yanks and how I converse with them and you ain’t one of them, you muppet. You, PBR Streetgang, Rexy, oldschoolg and the rest of the booty scratching squad (and all yer alts) are booty scratchers. Brumsong is another booty scratcher. I have got a long list.
There are decent Africans here that engage in decent conversations and are objective - this isn’t for them and I hope they don’t take it to heart.
But for the smelly booty scratching squad with nasty odour - stop stalking me, you wankers. Exist on the forum without following me around. It’s a big forum and I’m entitled to my opinions. Stop suffocating me with yer odour and extremely low IQ. Fffcking bonobos.
Do you actually think people read this blabbering nonsense? :lol1:
Get a life and stop crying about people “stalking” you ya mad nonce.
You stink! I’’ve always called you a “booty scratcher”, that’s African, you muppet!
No one thinks you’re American. I know you’re not a Brit and I never called you an American. I just said you’re not from the U.K.
Stop stalking me with yer, you stink, you nonce. Find someone else to follow around if you’re lonely, you wank stain.
Stop posting to me - I don’t post to you!
You literally called me American a couple days ago you soft c***. :lol1:
What you fail to understand is people aren’t following you around, you just constantly post bullsh** that people call you out on.
Take this thread for example: You’re trying to claim Dillian Whyte fought tougher opposition than Carl Froch. :lol1:
Do you really think boxing fans aren’t gonna call you out on that sh**?