Fighters are getting paid way too much to beat up bums and low opposition, in advance they also want more money than their worth to fight someone on their level.
We need someone like Don King to come and rob some fighters so, we can actually see the best fight the best and their zero won't mean anything, anymore.
That's a f***ing weird way of saying you would rather the promoters pockets get lined than the fighters. The money will come in regardless, it's just a case of who gets it. I'd rather that money go to the guy getting his head knocked in, than the guy on the sidelines. Don't like the fights being made? Don't watch them, then the money isn't as big.
To be fair though, anything with a Charlie Zelenoff label attached to it is bound to be garbage - opinions included.
I would be up for them lowering their PPV prices
nobody else has to pay to watch their sports except boxing and mma fans
I agree. Eddie Hearn was pretty open about this in an iFL interview, breaking down the purse splits from the main events to the prelims. You can end up with a mismatch main event getting 80% of the purse, and a fight on the undercard that is a 50-50, pick 'em, show stealer, getting like 3-4%. Not cool. Eddie even said, he's had main event fighters (ie. Dereck Chisora) find out how much money is in his pot, and then demanding more money or the main event doesn't happen. In this scenario, Eddie has to cut the pay of the fighters on the undercard, who are already receiving a tiny percentage.
That's a f***ing weird way of saying you would rather the promoters pockets get lined than the fighters. The money will come in regardless, it's just a case of who gets it. I'd rather that money go to the guy getting his head knocked in, than the guy on the sidelines. Don't like the fights being made? Don't watch them, then the money isn't as big.
To be fair though, anything with a Charlie Zelenoff label attached to it is bound to be garbage - opinions included.
Back in my day, boxers weren't getting paid millions to beat up bums and then price themselves out when their told it's time to step up. Today's boxer's are privileged and business should go back to the old way, where if you fight buns you only get five figure pay days and if you want that big money you should step up and fight the best.
That's a f***ing weird way of saying you would rather the promoters pockets get lined than the fighters. The money will come in regardless, it's just a case of who gets it. I'd rather that money go to the guy getting his head knocked in, than the guy on the sidelines. Don't like the fights being made? Don't watch them, then the money isn't as big.
To be fair though, anything with a Charlie Zelenoff label attached to it is bound to be garbage - opinions included.
Some of the little guys would disagree but yes in general some fighters are paid way too much.
Yeah I agree, the lower weight classes are an exception. Not by chance, it's also where you find the best fighting the best more often.
Idk the situation about the fighter pay in the UFC but, at least the best fight the best there.
That's what I mean about the UFC. Because they don't overpay their fighters, everybody's hungry. There are no easy fights. Everybody gets matched up in competitive fights and the cream rises to the top. Even their undercards are stacked, so if the main event turns out to be a dud people still get their money's worth. I can't remember the last time there was a boxing undercard worth a damn.
I say this as a lifelong boxing fan and only a casual fan of MMA, by the way. I see what they're doing and it pisses me off because that's what boxing should be like. We have the fighters, we just don't have the fights. Everyone is so damn risk averse in this day and age because they can afford to be.
I actually agree. People say the UFC underpays their fighters but it's more like boxing overpays. What incentive does a guy like Gervonta Davis have to step up and fight better competition when he can just keep fighting overmatched guys and racking up the easy paydays? I use him as an example but boxing is full of such cases.
This is the exact reason Spence vs. Crawford hasn't happened. These guys already make big paydays every single time out no matter who they fight, so to fight each other in a high risk fight they want significantly more. Where is all that extra money supposed to come from? It's not gonna be a mainstream PPV success. Neither of them are "stars", especially Crawford. They're not willing to take less so the fight doesn't happen, all because they're overpaid in the first place. It's killing boxing.
Boxers deserve to be well paid, I'm not arguing otherwise. But they shouldn't be paid silly money for easy fights. Cut that out and things will start falling in line.
Exactly! There's no incentive to really step up and prove that your the best anymore! All a boxer has to do is price themselves out and claim that the other fighter, is ducking them. Idk the situation about the fighter pay in the UFC but, at least the best fight the best there.
What are you talking about?
NSB just got done ranting about Ellerbe "underpaying" Rolly Romero for the Tank fight.
Nobody cares about that bum and nobody wants to see that damn fight because it's a sacrifice for Tank. See that's what I'm talking about.
Rolly, isn't even in the same league as Tank nor does he have the skills to pose any sort of threat to him.
He could be fighting Teo, Loma, or Haney but, instead he fight's a guy that got out boxed by a no name in Jackson Martinez.
I actually agree. People say the UFC underpays their fighters but it's more like boxing overpays. What incentive does a guy like Gervonta Davis have to step up and fight better competition when he can just keep fighting overmatched guys and racking up the easy paydays? I use him as an example but boxing is full of such cases.
This is the exact reason Spence vs. Crawford hasn't happened. These guys already make big paydays every single time out no matter who they fight, so to fight each other in a high risk fight they want significantly more. Where is all that extra money supposed to come from? It's not gonna be a mainstream PPV success. Neither of them are "stars", especially Crawford. They're not willing to take less so the fight doesn't happen, all because they're overpaid in the first place. It's killing boxing.
Boxers deserve to be well paid, I'm not arguing otherwise. But they shouldn't be paid silly money for easy fights. Cut that out and things will start falling in line.