Does Sanchez technical skills on the same level as Usyk

anyone else?

The Cuban flash is awesome. Is shows how good this era is that he is barely a dot on the scene, whereas let's say if he was in the weak 90s era with the likes of bum-bully Mike, and Chicken Bowe, he would have been undisputed for a decade. Nash out.

Sanchez has that Cuban elusiveness style along with good speed and explosive power. Not sure if it's better but it's definitely of note. Usyk would try his best to avoid shots from him.

The Cubans are a small island nation yet produce many fine fighters... I think they all have talent. At the end of the day becoming a champion involves a lot more than just being capable of boxing at the highest level. My favorite from the group was Solis. He was immeasurably talented, yet he could not stay in shape... It is an irony, and proof that the Most High has a sense of irony... that Solis literally collapsed by his own weight against his leg... Sanchez could go far. We have to see how much he wants it... And if he can get the fights he needs... if he is lucky...all the things that have to line up lol. You have a very good knowledge of these Cuban prospects... thats admirable! I see what i can find on Youtube and usually I can find quite a bit on who is coming up, so I will keep an eye out. Thank you, is not everyday that we can exchange opinions, without the haters, racist or trolling tag. Ariel Perez, Bruzon and Gomez arrived in Vegas last month. Salas is training them. And they are not padding their record. Be safe.

I do understand what you are saying, but I think Sanchez will go farther than the previous Cuban HW'S. First, like Ortiz he keeps himself in shape. Oldanier as soon as he got here, ballooned to 300 pounds. Gonzalez never had a trainer, so your guess how he kept himself in shape, is as good as mine. There's another Cuban Hw, Bruzon, that he looks really good, Laruet is another one, which I don't think he can go far unless he checks his appetite, missing another one, Pero, I think is his name, never see him fight. Time will tell. Then we got(non-Heavyweight) William Scull, Yolevis Gomez, Morell Jr., Ariel Perez, Jailer Lopez, Matellon, Argilagos, Robeisy Ramirez, these are young prospects with a genuine shot at a Belt. They are others that I didn't mention because I haven't seen them fight. Check Gomez, the kid is very explosive with both hands. Be safe. The Cubans are a small island nation yet produce many fine fighters... I think they all have talent. At the end of the day becoming a champion involves a lot more than just being capable of boxing at the highest level. My favorite from the group was Solis. He was immeasurably talented, yet he could not stay in shape... It is an irony, and proof that the Most High has a sense of irony... that Solis literally collapsed by his own weight against his leg... Sanchez could go far. We have to see how much he wants it... And if he can get the fights he needs... if he is lucky...all the things that have to line up lol. You have a very good knowledge of these Cuban prospects... thats admirable! I see what i can find on Youtube and usually I can find quite a bit on who is coming up, so I will keep an eye out.

Ajagba like all the guys coming up to grab the gold ring, had a jump up on the careasel but couldn't grab the ring...Prospects are all talented, determined and able... but there are, as they say, different levels to the game. Its not a death sentence for Ajagba, but realistically, most guys will "get exposed" before they are able to settle in to the division as a legitimate banger. Look what happened to Berlanga! Sanchez has experience. People say things like "the Cuban fighters never reach their potential" but I don't agree with that... Guys like Odinar Solis, Gonzalez, and even Ortiz, fight up on the ladder, beat a lot of good fighters... Thats pretty damn good considering not everyone can be champion. Take Gonzalez... he beat a lot of excellent fighters, and lost to a motivated Riddick Bowe... I mean you could do worse! I have a strong bias towards the Cubans because they tend to emphasize technical skills and I like that. But with that said I don't know how I feel about Sanchez. He looks to me like a guy who will do what most of the other Cuban guys did: beat some good fighters and get beat, not be prepared, etc for guys at the top of the division. I do understand what you are saying, but I think Sanchez will go farther than the previous Cuban HW'S. First, like Ortiz he keeps himself in shape. Oldanier as soon as he got here, ballooned to 300 pounds. Gonzalez never had a trainer, so your guess how he kept himself in shape, is as good as mine. There's another Cuban Hw, Bruzon, that he looks really good, Laruet is another one, which I don't think he can go far unless he checks his appetite, missing another one, Pero, I think is his name, never see him fight. Time will tell. Then we got(non-Heavyweight) William Scull, Yolevis Gomez, Morell Jr., Ariel Perez, Jailer Lopez, Matellon, Argilagos, Robeisy Ramirez, these are young prospects with a genuine shot at a Belt. They are others that I didn't mention because I haven't seen them fight. Check Gomez, the kid is very explosive with both hands. Be safe.

People do not look at skills, and they often do comparisons with irrational bias'. Case in point: in a division that is chronically weak, the fact that one guy fought better competition is not that big of an indicator of ability. But... people would have to take the time and look at film, and break down what a fighter is truly capable of doing... too much work lol. Completely agree mate, spot on.

I agree with your take on Sanchez and especially the bold. His fight against Dawejko was brutal to watch because Sanchez was willing to just do enough to win each round but wouldn't actually up the pace. Ajagba had shown some red flags prior to the Sanchez fight. Besides getting dropped by Kiladze, he didn't look all that impressive against Cojanu and he fought sedately against Rice. I think Frank is skilled and I think he'd handle himself relatively well against top guys but I'm not sure he'd beat them. Ajagba like all the guys coming up to grab the gold ring, had a jump up on the careasel but couldn't grab the ring...Prospects are all talented, determined and able... but there are, as they say, different levels to the game. Its not a death sentence for Ajagba, but realistically, most guys will "get exposed" before they are able to settle in to the division as a legitimate banger. Look what happened to Berlanga! Sanchez has experience. People say things like "the Cuban fighters never reach their potential" but I don't agree with that... Guys like Odinar Solis, Gonzalez, and even Ortiz, fight up on the ladder, beat a lot of good fighters... Thats pretty damn good considering not everyone can be champion. Take Gonzalez... he beat a lot of excellent fighters, and lost to a motivated Riddick Bowe... I mean you could do worse! I have a strong bias towards the Cubans because they tend to emphasize technical skills and I like that. But with that said I don't know how I feel about Sanchez. He looks to me like a guy who will do what most of the other Cuban guys did: beat some good fighters and get beat, not be prepared, etc for guys at the top of the division.

I can understand people questioning his resume but his skills are excellent, anybody who understands the game knows Ortiz is a quality technician. People do not look at skills, and they often do comparisons with irrational bias'. Case in point: in a division that is chronically weak, the fact that one guy fought better competition is not that big of an indicator of ability. But... people would have to take the time and look at film, and break down what a fighter is truly capable of doing... too much work lol.

While I respect both you and Billeau (who like your comment) as posters, we will have to agree to disagree on our opinions of Ortiz. I remember Ortiz got in a dispute with Golden Boy after he stopped Tony Thompson. Then he went to Matchroom and looked lackluster against Malik Scott and David Allen which kinda removed any buzz for an AJ or Whyte fight. After that he went to PBC and ultimately fought Wilder. I'm between that we Martz, Kauffman, Cojanu, Flores, etc. That’s fair enough man, I respect your opinion too, you’re one of the least biased posters on here.

What do we know about Sanchez? First of all, he looked good against a prospect. He is explosive which is nice, but he doesn't really seem to throw a lot of punches, he seems to depend on the opponent to set a pace, etc. He hasn't really been in a fight with even a top guy in this weak division. I think Usyk is a proven commodity. Sanchez looks promising, lets see if he can look as good against better competition. I agree with your take on Sanchez and especially the bold. His fight against Dawejko was brutal to watch because Sanchez was willing to just do enough to win each round but wouldn't actually up the pace. Ajagba had shown some red flags prior to the Sanchez fight. Besides getting dropped by Kiladze, he didn't look all that impressive against Cojanu and he fought sedately against Rice. I think Frank is skilled and I think he'd handle himself relatively well against top guys but I'm not sure he'd beat them.

I can understand people questioning his resume but his skills are excellent, anybody who understands the game knows Ortiz is a quality technician. I think Ortiz has skills but he also gasses after about 4-5 rounds. You can't talk about one aspect without talking about the other. Maybe 2 decades ago he was a complete fighter but he hasn't been one in a while.

Nah Ortiz was badly avoided IMO. A lot of the top guys didn’t want that smoke. After he iced Jennings nobody went near him for a good few years, they waited him out and he got old. While I respect both you and Billeau (who like your comment) as posters, we will have to agree to disagree on our opinions of Ortiz. I remember Ortiz got in a dispute with Golden Boy after he stopped Tony Thompson. Then he went to Matchroom and looked lackluster against Malik Scott and David Allen which kinda removed any buzz for an AJ or Whyte fight. After that he went to PBC and ultimately fought Wilder. I'm between that we Martz, Kauffman, Cojanu, Flores, etc.

Ortiz is the haterade of the month... Whyte was for a time as well. Now Whyte can do no wrong and Tito? he is old, greedy and takes candy away from kids! I can understand people questioning his resume but his skills are excellent, anybody who understands the game knows Ortiz is a quality technician.

I’m not even a Wilder fan dumbass. I think Wilder is a pr***. Ortiz was a very good HW though and very good win for Wilder. Ortiz is the haterade of the month... Whyte was for a time as well. Now Whyte can do no wrong and Tito? he is old, greedy and takes candy away from kids!

What exactly does usyk do differently than Sanchez style and technical wise because Sanchez throws faster combinations etc.? Anyone answer this for me please? Its a little simplistic a question because its really general...Its like you asking me for a psychological insight to someone and I say "they are insecure" I mean... who isn't? you come into a world, learn you will get old and die, lol...:lol1: Not exactly the foundations of a secure existence! But lets take a stab... First of all both men have different approaches to boxing. Usyk is a hyeractive, speed changing, angle creating fighter with a great engine. He depends on being physical (not many people know this but watch his cruiser fights) to exploit his opponent into making mistakes, and when he gets a rhythm he is very good at finishing an opponent. Watch the Mike Hunter fight with Usyk. Sanchez is a counter puncher who likes to match the other guy, he does not throw many punches, is a bit of an ambush fighter, staying away at a distance until he can find something to counter. Sanchez has explosive power, knows how to throw his shots and exit quickly, and technically can box well enough to find opportunities throughtout a fight to counter an opponent. Both men are technically accomplished. Sanchez has a lazy habit of waiting for the action to initiate... But is probably one of the best counter punchers in the division. Usyk initiates the action and works off of angles when he is at his best. Usyk is a physical, and strong fighter and people underestimate this strength, Sanchez is not a physical fighter at all, and would be happy fighting from a distance and simply countering his opponent all night.

do you agree that Sanchez is equally as skilled as Usyk Ask yourself a question: When was Frank Sanchez mentioned before this latest fight? When was his career analyzed, when was he looked at critically? Lets compare Usyk in this regard: When Usyk fought Chisora he looked bad. So for those who look at technical skills and ability, the natural question was, what was Usyk going to do? And what he did was monumental. He made adjustments... lots of them. he made it so he could fight the way he fought at cruiser. This to me shows that Usyk is a great fighter, much like Tunney was eons ago. A ATG Cruiser who is so good, he could well become (like Tunney) an ATG heavyweight. What do we know about Sanchez? First of all, he looked good against a prospect. He is explosive which is nice, but he doesn't really seem to throw a lot of punches, he seems to depend on the opponent to set a pace, etc. He hasn't really been in a fight with even a top guy in this weak division. I think Usyk is a proven commodity. Sanchez looks promising, lets see if he can look as good against better competition.

Wilder fans still love to obsess over a 50 year old dude I’m not even a Wilder fan dumbass. I think Wilder is a pr***. Ortiz was a very good HW though and very good win for Wilder.

If by "Luis Ortiz treatment", you mean he will fight Alexander Flores, call out every HW and then turn down the fights offered, I really hope not. Ortiz just turned down Otto Wallin (who then signed on to fight Whyte). It's time for us to dispense with the whole Ortiz bogeyman nonsense. I could see Sanchez getting avoided. He's skilled, not particularly exciting for the fans to watch and has no fanbase himself. But at that point, who's fault is it if he's avoided? At that point, is his juice worth the squeeze? Nah Ortiz was badly avoided IMO. A lot of the top guys didn’t want that smoke. After he iced Jennings nobody went near him for a good few years, they waited him out and he got old.

It was an awful fight, boring as fuck and they got booed by the crowd for not throwing enough. Neither fighter comes out of that looking good. It was Ajagba that was bad, Sanchez wasn't good.