I'm happy to be proved wrong and get the big event. But I didn't see Fury going through with it. Even two weeks ago I didn't think it would happen.
At what point did you actually think it would go ahead?
For me, I'm still not hitting the buy on the PPV. I want to see the card actually start!
Haye Bellew was probably similar in that it was a fun rivalry while it was happening, but didn't really have much below the surface.
Froch v Groves was good fun, and it was credible at the weight class.
A Wilder win makes this a more credible rivalry, but I just don't see it. And if Fury sweeps the series today, I don't think the rivalry has any kind of lasting impact.
The irony is that, as you said, people get written off as soon as they lose nowadays. Whereas it's losses that make great rivalries and produces the kind of fights that define eras and produce legendary fighters.
We need to start getting these Undisputed fights made. They make perfect sense. You don't drop in value when you lose those fights - you get an even bigger rematch! And potentially improve your legacy by coming back.
They're the rivalries, I want to see.
I don't care about the lasting impact, historically or world wide. It is about now, what it means now.
David Haye vs Tony Bellew was the last real fight, I was really involved in.
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But that is mainly due to me being a big David Haye supporter, but yes awesome.
I just think this week, has been great. Between the fighters and teams, no holding back, no matey matey culture, just real raw competition.
Joshua vs Usyk II, is bigger fight than the first fight 'So yes I agree'.
I just feel as if? In heavyweight boxing, it has been a long time since there has been a rivalry.
And this is mainly because, soon as somebody loses 'People act like they become obsolete'.
Or just in general, I think fighters want to not rematch each other these days.
It has been a genuine rivalry, the way their characters have clashed. I still think the very first face off they had, was one of the most compelling things I have ever seen 'It was deep'.
Note: I think there is a matey matey culture in the UK as well, Joshua has promoted this 'This week the atmosphere has been totally different to Usyk vs Joshua'. The competition between Fury & Wilder, has been raw and real. I have not in all honestly enjoyed or been engrossed by a rivalry since Haye vs Bellew etc.
Haye Bellew was probably similar in that it was a fun rivalry while it was happening, but didn't really have much below the surface.
Froch v Groves was good fun, and it was credible at the weight class.
A Wilder win makes this a more credible rivalry, but I just don't see it. And if Fury sweeps the series today, I don't think the rivalry has any kind of lasting impact.
The irony is that, as you said, people get written off as soon as they lose nowadays. Whereas it's losses that make great rivalries and produces the kind of fights that define eras and produce legendary fighters.
We need to start getting these Undisputed fights made. They make perfect sense. You don't drop in value when you lose those fights - you get an even bigger rematch! And potentially improve your legacy by coming back.
It's been fun... but if Fury wins again, as most expect, I don't think it rates at all.
Draw-Win-Win isn't a great rivalry. And most think it deserved to be a whitewash. It's been marketed ok by two pretty good characters but scratch beneath the surface and get to the actual boxing elements and it's barely a rivalry.
I just feel as if? In heavyweight boxing, it has been a long time since there has been a rivalry.
And this is mainly because, soon as somebody loses 'People act like they become obsolete'.
Or just in general, I think fighters want to not rematch each other these days.
It has been a genuine rivalry, the way their characters have clashed. I still think the very first face off they had, was one of the most compelling things I have ever seen 'It was deep'.
Note: I think there is a matey matey culture in the UK as well, Joshua has promoted this 'This week the atmosphere has been totally different to Usyk vs Joshua'. The competition between Fury & Wilder, has been raw and real. I have not in all honestly enjoyed or been engrossed by a rivalry since Haye vs Bellew etc.
Underrated Rivalry.
It's been fun... but if Fury wins again, as most expect, I don't think it rates at all.
Draw-Win-Win isn't a great rivalry. And most think it deserved to be a whitewash. It's been marketed ok by two pretty good characters but scratch beneath the surface and get to the actual boxing elements and it's barely a rivalry.
It's surprising how many on here aren't surprised.
When you consider that one of the fighters was literally willing to be dragged in front of a judge for trying to avoid it!
I'm not sure it made sense before AJ lost. Fury has proven enough through the two fights and had his choice of easier fights or a bigger fight.
Once AJ lost it makes a bit more sense. The bigger fight is tied up in a rematch.
10s 0f millions of dollars? Who's paying them - you? :lol1:
They'd be extremely lucky to make $20m in ticket sales and PPV for in the fight in total.:lol1:
You could be right, I saw a graphic saying Fury would get 50 mill and Wilder 40 mill somewhere yesterday. I dont involve my self in the financials of boxing usually, maybe they are making significantly less.
Soon as Fury could not fight Joshua, I knew this fight would happen. I knew Tyson Fury would go through with it.
My only concern was? How would Fury deal with being favorite and no longer the underdog at elite level. Fury is clearly on edge, but he is dealing with it.
The second fight was not a conclusive ending to their rivalry, and it is stilll the second biggest fight in boxing.
Underrated Rivalry.
Not surprised at all. Whether Fury had Covid or used it as an excuse because he got sparked in sparring to delay the fight, it was always going to happen. I mean why would anyone be surprised, there are 10s of millions of dollars at stake for both fighters.