At what point does beating Pacquiao no longer count because he's old?

Beating pac after the horn loss stopped being relevant. Pac showed his weakness. I don't even considered his thurman win impressive as thurman was inactive and was slipping. Pac should have retired in 2017/2018, but he stayed for too long. He better retire now or risk being hurt real bad. or smarter matches eg pacman v Amir khan pacman v ortiz pacman v McGregor

Even before this loss it already mattered way less than it used to. But we are definitely at a point now where if someone else beats him it'd just be "eh, ok then". Time to hang em up. Just a shame its Ugas that got some shine off his name on the way out rather than Spence or Bud.

Beating Pac don't mean much anymore cuz he's really old. When the Hornet beat him

Beating pac after the horn loss stopped being relevant. Pac showed his weakness. I don't even considered his thurman win impressive as thurman was inactive and was slipping. Pac should have retired in 2017/2018, but he stayed for too long. He better retire now or risk being hurt real bad.

floyd has always had bad hands and if you look at them since 2015 you clearly see Floyd is the one who has fallen off worse You could be right that he’s fallen off worse since 2015, or he just didn’t have the desire to really compete at the top anymore or more importantly, he just being smart that it’s time to walk away. I personally believe he just toyed with Conor if that’s where you’re basing it off from. But during their mega fight, pacquiao was obvious to have fallen off more from his prime version relatively compared to floyd though. And i don’t buy the shoulder injury excuse. He been looking like ish before that for like 4 fights and not very impressive. pacquiao is just squeezing whatever he has left, not very smart in my opinion, but he has political plans, and boxing is too good of a platform — and free for that matter, for his political campaign. He can’t afford to let his name sleep for years until the presidential elections. And the money is still solid. (But i dont believe he has any problems financially). floyd, again in my opinion, if he also squeezes whatever he has left and didn’t play smart, would still beat ugas, thurman and whoever pac beat the last few years. Horn would also be hard for him due to the wrestlings allowed in australia.

Still a solid win for Ugas. And it also ruined the fantasy of Pacquao fans. I read on Facebook that Pacquiao is capable of beating Golovkin and Canelo. Not sure about that. Ugas won fight but did Ugas have 6 weeks to train for fight? ​​​​​https://youtu.be/lDomR6LR7X4

So you think floyd who is a defensive specialist, highly elusive, fights more often than not on the backfoot, not a volume puncher and has probably received the least punishment for the last 20 years of any known fighter has more wear and tear than pacquiao?? Because he’s older than 2 years?? floyd has always had bad hands and if you look at them since 2015 you clearly see Floyd is the one who has fallen off worse

Still a solid win for Ugas. And it also ruined the fantasy of Pacquao fans. I read on Facebook that Pacquiao is capable of beating Golovkin and Canelo.

Beating Pac don't mean much anymore cuz he's really old. About 5 years ago……………..

that just isnt true..Floyd just looked bad against a youtubber and didnt look great in 2017 against Conner while Manny just fought for another title....give credit where it is due So you think floyd who is a defensive specialist, highly elusive, fights more often than not on the backfoot, not a volume puncher and has probably received the least punishment for the last 20 years of any known fighter has more wear and tear than pacquiao?? Because he’s older than 2 years??

He got ktfo almost 3 years before that. Come on with that BS. what silliness are you even posting. Bigg dunn you're a funny one. So nothing you say is a little far fetched? You never admit anything, don't give an inch do you ha ha?

Pac wasn't shot when Floyd beat pac, but he was still in process of rebuilding confidence after jmm ko, but it was a controversial Iv enhanced win, people are frustrated with floyd til this day and aren't forgiving, Floyd is penalised big time for messing about so naively? And the fact Floyd didn't give Pac a rematch he pretty much promised he would furtherbdiminishes the win. The win isn't growing, only in Floyd fans hearts, not their minds. Because even Floyd fans know that's not how boxing works and that's why in their minds they want Pac koed badly every fight. Boxing is dangerous and every time Pac or any fighters gets in ring they are fighting for themselves not for floyd. Bigg Dunn you should be ashamed of yourself every time you get in a debate with me you get desperate and plumb the depths? Nah, more rate Pac higher than floyd. I think you realise that. You only keep mentioning Floyd in same sentence as Pac in hope some of the magic runs off on Floyd, in your heart and mind you know Pac up there with srr and Floyd s not. Even the polls you saw years ago where Floyd is above pac, you didn't agree with them, didn't believe them He got ktfo almost 3 years before that. Come on with that BS. what silliness are you even posting.

Like I said before, both wins look even better with the time, especially the Manny win because with each win it proves he wasn’t as shot as his slurper stans try to argue. Manny isn’t rated the best of all time. And more people rate Floyd above him, a point you ignore whenever it’s made. Pac wasn't shot when Floyd beat pac, but he was still in process of rebuilding confidence after jmm ko, but it was a controversial Iv enhanced win, people are frustrated with floyd til this day and aren't forgiving, Floyd is penalised big time for messing about so naively? And the fact Floyd didn't give Pac a rematch he pretty much promised he would furtherbdiminishes the win. The win isn't growing, only in Floyd fans hearts, not their minds. Because even Floyd fans know that's not how boxing works and that's why in their minds they want Pac koed badly every fight. Boxing is dangerous and every time Pac or any fighters gets in ring they are fighting for themselves not for floyd. Bigg Dunn you should be ashamed of yourself every time you get in a debate with me you get desperate and plumb the depths? Nah, more rate Pac higher than floyd. I think you realise that. You only keep mentioning Floyd in same sentence as Pac in hope some of the magic runs off on Floyd, in your heart and mind you know Pac up there with srr and Floyd s not. Even the polls you saw years ago where Floyd is above pac, you didn't agree with them, didn't believe them

No, don't exagerate, only floyd fans and anonymous people who don't have to publicly address what's so good about wins hold it in high regard. People who think pac best floyd obviously don't hold win in high regard. Floyd in the past in certain polls has been ahead, but don't exagerate. No indicator of how people view floyd today with Nell and pac continuing to write THEIR story. Operative word being THEIR. And floyd diminishing his with his exhibitions. You are so scared to acknowledge countless stars who rate pac best of all time or there abouts as if it has no meaning? You only see what you want to see. Ignore things that distort or challenge your views Like I said before, both wins look even better with the time, especially the Manny win because with each win it proves he wasn’t as shot as his slurper stans try to argue. Manny isn’t rated the best of all time. And more people rate Floyd above him, a point you ignore whenever it’s made.

Everybody holds those wins in high regard except the slurper fans of the losing fighters. Floyd is always above Manny and it’s never controversial except to the slurper Manny stans like yourself. Canelo isnt hot on his coattails. That is just ridiculous. ? No, don't exagerate, only floyd fans and anonymous people who don't have to publicly address what's so good about wins hold it in high regard. People who think pac best floyd obviously don't hold win in high regard. Floyd in the past in certain polls has been ahead, but don't exagerate. No indicator of how people view floyd today with Nell and pac continuing to write THEIR story. Operative word being THEIR. And floyd diminishing his with his exhibitions. You are so scared to acknowledge countless stars who rate pac best of all time or there abouts as if it has no meaning? You only see what you want to see. Ignore things that distort or challenge your views

If boxing historians of publications hold those 2 wins in high regard over everything pac or Nel o did when others don't floyd was a lucky man. If justice is done it will only be that decade floyd gets credit for..If in best boxer polls in future that name floyd is above pac that will be controversial. Nel o is hot on Floyd's coat tails now also. That's why floyd needed a rematch over them to have 2 wins over fighters deemed greater is more useful than the controversial wins Floyd's lumbered with. Trouble is floyd will take those controversial wins as it's all about zero Everybody holds those wins in high regard except the slurper fans of the losing fighters. Floyd is always above Manny and it’s never controversial except to the slurper Manny stans like yourself. Canelo isnt hot on his coattails. That is just ridiculous. He beat them both clearly and by a wide margin. The only controversy is when will slurper Manny stans get over the loss?

He won thoroughly and decisively. That is why he was FOTD. Those are the best wins of the decade. If boxing historians of publications hold those 2 wins in high regard over everything pac or Nel o did when others don't floyd was a lucky man, what was floyd doing real the the 8 years? If justice is done it will only be that decade floyd gets credit for..If in best boxer polls in future that name floyd is above pac that will be controversial. Nel o is hot on Floyd's coat tails now also. That's why it was in floyd best interests to have a rematch over them to have 2 wins over a fighter deemed greater and 2 wins over a fighter who one day maybe greater is more useful than the controversial wins Floyd's lumbered with. Trouble is with floyd is l il floyd will take those controversial wins as it's all about zero. But again it's only floyd fanatics who think Nell and pac have to beat floyd when they know full well floyd will never give rematch! Boxing fans know pac and Nell are doing fine without a win over floyd.

Yeh, we know floyd has a green, drained, controversial I v enhanced win over them. So why is it dumb to think he couldnt win on that basis when pac and Nell did more He won thoroughly and decisively. That is why he was FOTD. Those are the best wins of the decade.

lol. Sketchy is manny over jmm 1-3. Close doesn’t mean he lost. As many that said he lost, there are that said he won. Definitely should’ve been a rematch and Floyd proved himself/ Haha. Imo, Manny and Juan are so evenly matched, it would depend on whose watching. I can't even get mad if someone says Marquez won. A least iits in the books, lol. Castillo 1- I felt he bullied Floyd around enough to get the nod. Floyd's face before the decision kind says it all. Floyd did shut him out in 2nd.

This is dumb. He won FOTD off beating canelo and manny. Accept it. Yeh, we know floyd has a green, drained, controversial I v enhanced win over them. So why is it dumb to think he couldnt win on that basis when pac and Nell did more