Canelo is now 31 years old. Is his record better than floyds at 31 years of age?

Prime? Floyd retired when prime Cotto, plastered Marga, Mosley, Williams, and Maravilla were dominating the WW scene. The only prime that Floyd fought is Hatton. Hatton was in his prime at 140 but he moved up to 147 to face Floyd. dont be ridiculous. exactly how was Mosley dominating the division in 2007-2008? and Sergio wasnt even in his weight class, why mention him?

I never claimed Manny cleared out a division. The original question was between Fraud and Canelo. Fraud never cleared out a division by 31, never unified all 4 belts. Canelo is one fight away from doing that. You Fraud fans are the ones crying about Pac. i never mentioned Manny you did..I literally said in my first post Canelo had the better names and you targeted me out the blue while making no sense at all

Dont be a crybaby. Floyd fans will try to discredit Pac so it's a retaliation. Discredit Pac how? No armchair can discredit Pac you Pac Homer. Nobody is crying. Floyd is greater than Pac and that bothers you. Those are two legends. Floyd>Pac.

I think that’s just modern day Boxing fans, noticed a shift in around the late 80’s where fans would act this way. Chavez fans mostly, what I would say were the first real weird fan base. Chavez and Mike Tyson actually. Boxing is the only sport where the fans act this way, very strange. Mayweather being the absolute pinnacle of that weird fan behaviour. There’s posters on this site who claimed Floyd was scared and ducking multiple fighters, to then say he cherry picked them after he beat them. It’s like these people aren’t aware their previous posts are public. Dont be a crybaby. Floyd fans will try to discredit Pac so it's a retaliation.

It appears that posters are running rampant with the revisionism of history, for fights that happened in very recent years and a ton of information is available for them. They are not changing the history of fights that happened in 1904. I see the history being distorted for fights in the 2010s. Which is amusing. Because these types of people are probably the exact reason why so many fighters of the distant past are so overrated. Enough people lie about something, you will eventually have parrots repeating it and making it fact. Other than the one you are replying to, which is gaining traction (Maidana was robbed); a couple of weeks ago someone said, as fact, that Margarito was supposed to destroy Pacquiao and be too much for him. In reality, Margarito was totally washed up, largely inactive, was given a title shot by WBC based on his name and not merit-based, and lastly, he was the considerable underdog vs the much smaller Pacquiao. The common theme for the aftermath of Pacquiao vs Margarito was everyone was surprised Margarito went 12. But now Margarito, the known underdog who was seen as washed up by the majority of fans, was actually supposed to kill Pacquiao. What happened? Well, Pacquiao and Margarito fans of the time, hyped up Margarito as an amazing opponent who can be very tough for Pacquiao (setting it up to give Pacquiao all the credit in the world). While neutral fans called it like it is: Margarito is washed up and will be a punching bag for Pac. Pacquiao fans today, are pretty much pointing fingers at their very own posts from 2010, saying that “people” were saying that Margarito is very dangerous. As amusing as that sounds, it is exactly what that poster did. In 2010, he was with the group of fans hyping up Margarito, arguing that it will be a great fight and very dangerous. And now he is saying that actually it was anti-Pacquiao fans who were hyping up the fight as one Pacquiao will lose. So now, Mayweather vs Maidana was a robbery and most thought Maidana won. As you pointed out, that was false. But that statement being false will not stop them from repeating it for decades to come and telling their grandchildren about it. The statement also seems to come from posters with zero credibility and zero proof that they can be unbiased when speaking of black people. We have posters here who post on white supremacist forums, coming here to tell us how they think Mayweather, a black fighter, lost to Maidana, a white Hispanic fighter. Very credible. I think that’s just modern day Boxing fans, noticed a shift in around the late 80’s where fans would act this way. Chavez fans mostly, what I would say were the first real weird fan base. Chavez and Mike Tyson actually. Boxing is the only sport where the fans act this way, very strange. Mayweather being the absolute pinnacle of that weird fan behaviour. There’s posters on this site who claimed Floyd was scared and ducking multiple fighters, to then say he cherry picked them after he beat them. It’s like these people aren’t aware their previous posts are public.

Really? I'm not sure wh3re history has chavez but I rate him higher than fl oyd Nobody has Chavez ranked higher than Floyd except Chavez’s fans. Foh…

Boxers can lose to mma fighters under boxing rules matchups make fights chavez jr vs silva or gsp. Yet had been canelo or even caleb plant saunders nah. How will a stagnant manny pacquiao deal with an akward rangy mcgregor who gave money fits with range n akward style before he tired (he did better vs may than everyonr except castillo maidana n maybe oscar. I think francis ngannou vs 2 ppl dillian whyte and most def wilder would be great fights especially wilder ngannou got longer reach wilder started as a boxer same uncanny power yet ngannou has lifted people with a cross and uppercut its not just a winding book yet ngannou vs fury wouldnt be competitive 80% time ngannou vs aj would be watchable cause every fight aj gets caught amd ngannou power u dnt get back up. But aj way to technical with similar size n got power to make ngannou respect n be hesitant like he did derek lewis. Wilder wont get that he like everyone seen wilder got one style one move n its telegraphic from miles away. Mcgregor will be pummelled like a peking duck if he faces pac in the ring.

Difference between floyd and canelo is that floyd beat top names in their prime while canelo beats top names when they are fading or have faded. Floyd has a better resume before he turned 30. This is not up for debate. Prime? Floyd retired when prime Cotto, plastered Marga, Mosley, Williams, and Maravilla were dominating the WW scene. The only prime that Floyd fought is Hatton. Hatton was in his prime at 140 but he moved up to 147 to face Floyd. dont be ridiculous.

Difference between floyd and canelo is that floyd beat top names in their prime while canelo beats top names when they are fading or have faded. Floyd has a better resume before he turned 30. This is not up for debate.

Boxers can lose to mma fighters under boxing rules matchups make fights chavez jr vs silva or gsp. Yet had been canelo or even caleb plant saunders nah. How will a stagnant manny pacquiao deal with an akward rangy mcgregor who gave money fits with range n akward style before he tired (he did better vs may than everyonr except castillo maidana n maybe oscar. I think francis ngannou vs 2 ppl dillian whyte and most def wilder would be great fights especially wilder ngannou got longer reach wilder started as a boxer same uncanny power yet ngannou has lifted people with a cross and uppercut its not just a winding book yet ngannou vs fury wouldnt be competitive 80% time ngannou vs aj would be watchable cause every fight aj gets caught amd ngannou power u dnt get back up. But aj way to technical with similar size n got power to make ngannou respect n be hesitant like he did derek lewis. Wilder wont get that he like everyone seen wilder got one style one move n its telegraphic from miles away.

Actually no the majority of press row had Floyd winning. It appears that posters are running rampant with the revisionism of history, for fights that happened in very recent years and a ton of information is available for them. They are not changing the history of fights that happened in 1904. I see the history being distorted for fights in the 2010s. Which is amusing. Because these types of people are probably the exact reason why so many fighters of the distant past are so overrated. Enough people lie about something, you will eventually have parrots repeating it and making it fact. Other than the one you are replying to, which is gaining traction (Maidana was robbed); a couple of weeks ago someone said, as fact, that Margarito was supposed to destroy Pacquiao and be too much for him. In reality, Margarito was totally washed up, largely inactive, was given a title shot by WBC based on his name and not merit-based, and lastly, he was the considerable underdog vs the much smaller Pacquiao. The common theme for the aftermath of Pacquiao vs Margarito was everyone was surprised Margarito went 12. But now Margarito, the known underdog who was seen as washed up by the majority of fans, was actually supposed to kill Pacquiao. What happened? Well, Pacquiao and Margarito fans of the time, hyped up Margarito as an amazing opponent who can be very tough for Pacquiao (setting it up to give Pacquiao all the credit in the world). While neutral fans called it like it is: Margarito is washed up and will be a punching bag for Pac. Pacquiao fans today, are pretty much pointing fingers at their very own posts from 2010, saying that “people” were saying that Margarito is very dangerous. As amusing as that sounds, it is exactly what that poster did. In 2010, he was with the group of fans hyping up Margarito, arguing that it will be a great fight and very dangerous. And now he is saying that actually it was anti-Pacquiao fans who were hyping up the fight as one Pacquiao will lose. So now, Mayweather vs Maidana was a robbery and most thought Maidana won. As you pointed out, that was false. But that statement being false will not stop them from repeating it for decades to come and telling their grandchildren about it. The statement also seems to come from posters with zero credibility and zero proof that they can be unbiased when speaking of black people. We have posters here who post on white supremacist forums, coming here to tell us how they think Mayweather, a black fighter, lost to Maidana, a white Hispanic fighter. Very credible.

yet he beat Thurman 4 years later??? Floyd is more shop worn then Manny and older..hence he retired and Manny is still fighting for titles in 2021 Thurman sucked. Almost lost to Lopez. Fraud wasn't shopworn. He had a career of cherrypicking and fighting stiffs.

what division has Manny ever cleaned out??? never even unified 2 titles..you literally have no argument here at all I never claimed Manny cleared out a division. The original question was between Fraud and Canelo. Fraud never cleared out a division by 31, never unified all 4 belts. Canelo is one fight away from doing that. You Fraud fans are the ones crying about Pac.

You are in small company in regards to Maidana 1. Very close fight, very close. Most had Maidana winning which is why Floyd hand picked Maidanas gloves for 2nd fight Actually no the majority of press row had Floyd winning.

Fraud never held all four belts at the same time. He also never fought Manny when Manny was at his absolute best. That's why, again, Fraud never cleaned out a division. Fraud Cherrypicker, OK boxer, stupid fanbase. what division has Manny ever cleaned out??? never even unified 2 titles..you literally have no argument here at all

He would've mopped Manny in his prime. Then you would hear the same "oh cause Floyd's a bigger fighter" excuse that you hear now. Yeah that's thing when pacquiao was in his prime so was mayweather. I do think it would of been a better fight than the one we got.

Yes, Manny went through much more before fighting Fraud. It's not even up for debate. yet he beat Thurman 4 years later??? Floyd is more shop worn then Manny and older..hence he retired and Manny is still fighting for titles in 2021

Fraud never held all four belts at the same time. He also never fought Manny when Manny was at his absolute best. That's why, again, Fraud never cleaned out a division. Fraud Cherrypicker, OK boxer, stupid fanbase. He would've mopped Manny in his prime. Then you would hear the same "oh cause Floyd's a bigger fighter" excuse that you hear now.

floyd was unified and lineal in 2 divisions at once..Manny has LITERALLY NEVER EVEN UNIFIED 2 DAMN TITLES....great boxer..stupid fan base Fraud never held all four belts at the same time. He also never fought Manny when Manny was at his absolute best. That's why, again, Fraud never cleaned out a division. Fraud Cherrypicker, OK boxer, stupid fanbase.

manny was war torn?? Yet is still fighting for titles 6 years later while floyd has been retired? How does that make sense in your world? Yes, Manny went through much more before fighting Fraud. It's not even up for debate.