Taylor is better challenge for Crawford than Ortiz jr.

I need to agree 100%

Ortiz jr. is too green. He was there only with gatekeepers. Taylor is unified 140 champion and more skilled fighter who brings much more. I don't know if you're willing to but here me out. Josh Taylor and Ortiz are two very different fighters. Taylor is a very smart counter puncher who can have a tendency to let his opponent start the action, hence why even with two knock downs Jose Ramirez was still able to have some success. Ortiz is always keeping his jab going and presses the action yet is very vulnerable. I think Taylor will try and outbox Bud, while Ortiz would force the action. Bud has inconsistent defense and seriously struggles to fight off of the back foot. Kava was able to put Bud on the back foot and that's why he had success, but as soon as Bud started walking to Kava he took over. Bud is a great offensive fighter but I think if your chin can hold up, you can walk him down and do some serious damage. I don't think Taylor is big enough or physically strong enough to push Bud back, and Taylor being patient against Bud plays in his favor as Bud is what we call a thinking fighter. Bud is always setting things up, and this is why I believe someone like Spence, Porter, or Ortiz would give him the toughest fight of his career because they all apply effective pressure. I'm interested on knowing how you feel a Bud vs Taylor fight would play out.

Taylor is accomplished but gets hit a lot during fights. Virgil's natural size will be something that Crawford will have to overcome alongside his skill set, jab and power.

Crawford should be left out of this conversation

Ortiz is A level fighter and the best fighter he ever fought is Kavaliauskas? The only reason you say that is you are the fan of Mexican boxers. You hate Taylor because he beat Ramirez. :rolleyes: this same played out moronic drivel again:pat: Ramirez who nobody in a million years considered a good fighter,who I constantly said was garbage just like Taylor BEFORE they fought?(that Ramirez:dunce:).(in actuality I never called either garbage,I just said that" them fighting for undisputed is the epitome of why its meaningless") I literally am a fan of 2 mexican boxers & ultranationalistics like you hyping up Taylor while accusing me of being a fanboi of mexicans is the epitome of irony Ill do one better & challenge you to find where I've ever been a fan of more mexican fighters in any way than Ortiz & Canelo. If you can do that or even find where I'm not consistently dismissive or outright shtting on most mexican fighters ill proclaim you the king....til then zip {"alt":"Click image for larger version Name:\t200.gif Views:\t0 Size:\t764.3 KB ID:\t31044954","data-align":"none","data-attachmentid":"31044954","data-size":"full","title":"200.gif"}

Taylor is a B level fighter,Ortiz is a young A level fighter. Taylor got beat up by Postol imho,& Regis pieced him up pretty bad, Regis who would stand no chance to top wws imo. Ortiz is A level fighter and the best fighter he ever fought is Kavaliauskas? The only reason you say that is you are the fan of Mexican boxers. You hate Taylor because he beat Ramirez.

I would agree, more accomplished and experienced would like to see him maybe take a fight at 147 first vs a decent opponent before jumping in with Bud

Either one is fine with me. Now that Spence is out.

Crawford needs to fight top welterweights and not smaller guys moving up. Crawford is ex lightweight who moved up 2 divisions. I want him to fight elite guys from other divisions not only welterweight contenders.

Tough call. Ortiz has one of the best jabs and selection of jabs I’ve ever seen. Don’t underestimate a guy like that with the right plan. He He scored 2 KDs last night with 2 different kinds of jabs. I like and respect Taylor but he hasn’t the got that kind of jab and doesn’t carry a big hammer.

He might be a more difficult fight for Crawford, but I don't know. He's definitely a better fight for Crawford to take IMO, considering he's undisputed at 140lbs.

Taylor is a B level fighter,Ortiz is a young A level fighter. Taylor got beat up by Postol imho,& Regis pieced him up pretty bad, Regis who would stand no chance to top wws imo.

No he isn't. Taylor would get cleaned up by Ortiz bro and it isn't even the skills I'm talking about. Ortiz will run downhill on Taylor, hell he probably is gonna run downhill on Crawford.

That "gate keeper" that hurt and dropped Crawford and has been in there with both,gave high praise to Ortiz and sounds like he gives Ortiz a very good shot at beating Bud...but hey,he probably doesn't know wtf he's talking about though right. Taylor would be a great matchup for Bud though,actually. for both now that I'm thinking about it.