Why won't Dillian Shyte fight Luis Ortiz?

It's because British fighters are nine-sided, double-talking grease-eels who are skilled in rhetoric and use their book learning to confuse and bamboozle stout-hearted, honest Americans at every turn.

Let’s get back to this comedy show , first off most know Ruiz was robbed in NZ . What you implied here is Ortiz is a top guy something you just said you never claimed ? Furthermore you ignore Ruiz actually fought Parker and even Arreola who YOU said set a punching stats record recently where Ortiz fought who ? Can you prove Ruiz is worse or even Parker who’s fighting dangerous guys then Ortiz ? Your math here is very ? So let’s get back to your nonsense here , you are suggesting because no one beat the top 3 guys it still shows Ortiz is on par with everyone in 2021 and using why are they so much better not the actual argument that’s being made ? Correct “what makes Povetkin, or Chisora so much better than the guys King Kong fought?” :lol1: Yup, let's excuse more losses. You quoted me so you know exactly what I claimed... Keep trying redumber... lol. So when is that Fury Joshua fight? Ohhhh..... when you going to admit your a goof lol. Please do quote my posts... Halfwit

I dont think ORTIZ has any aspirations to achieve anything in boxing now and is just fighting for the money. which he should at his age. He has lost the force in his punches and beating him does nothing for any fighters profile. Not to mention you pick up peanuts fighting him. Watching him duck the AJ unfication was bizarre. he may well beat Wyte and to be frank if Whyte cant beat him he should retire but whyte is looking up not downwards I mean, any time Shyte has flapped his gums about him Luis Ortiz has responded that he's ready and willing. It's always the Brit who never follows through. Which shows that he's just a guy who likes to run his mouth. Kind of like Jugglenutz.

Ruiz is having knee surgery. Why doesn't Shyte back up all his trash talk by beating the 50-year-old-man Luis Ortiz? It's the perfect way to come over to America and make some noise. ​​​​​​ I dont think ORTIZ has any aspirations to achieve anything in boxing now and is just fighting for the money. which he should at his age. He has lost the force in his punches and beating him does nothing for any fighters profile. Not to mention you pick up peanuts fighting him. Watching him duck the AJ unfication was bizarre. he may well beat Wyte and to be frank if Whyte cant beat him he should retire but whyte is looking up not downwards

I'm not Whyte's biggest fan i dont actually think he is that good but he has heart. Luiz Ortiz beat Jennings back when he was in his forties that win doesnt even count anymore. Why doesnt Ortiz fight Ruiz ? He is either getting knocked out by Wilder or going 12 rounds with KAUFFMAN. He is a skilled fighter just like me when i shadow box but he gets knocked out by any heavyweight in the top 8 just because he doesnt have the stamina to go 12 rounds with any fighter that pushes the action Ruiz is having knee surgery. Why doesn't Shyte back up all his trash talk by beating the 50-year-old-man Luis Ortiz? It's the perfect way to come over to America and make some noise. ​​​​​​

Ortiz beat Bryant Jennings more impressively than Wladimir Klitschko did. At a time when that actually meant something. And there is a history of Shyte calling out Ortiz, only to backtrack when King Kong calls his bluff. Luis Ortiz has accepted a verbal challenge from Dillian Whyte for a heavyweight showdown next year https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/12166138/luis-ortiz-has-accepted-a-verbal-challenge-from-dillian-whyte-for-a-heavyweight-showdown-next-year I'm not Whyte's biggest fan i dont actually think he is that good but he has heart. Luiz Ortiz beat Jennings back when he was in his forties that win doesnt even count anymore. Why doesnt Ortiz fight Ruiz ? He is either getting knocked out by Wilder or going 12 rounds with KAUFFMAN. He is a skilled fighter just like me when i shadow box but he gets knocked out by any heavyweight in the top 8 just because he doesnt have the stamina to go 12 rounds with any fighter that pushes the action

I was wrong about the arbitration not the actual bet silly Billy . And we still don’t know if Wilder fights Fury next u til crazy Fury shows up . You still doesn’t dismiss I was actually right about court proceedings anyone in law knows I was ,I can’t magically make the decision though ,I even posted before the verdict it could still happen that still doesn’t dismiss all the things you had no clue about most of it but looking up things , you even said the fight better happen ,you were cheerleading with your crazy crew on here just to be right ,your a sob one silly and sorry but Shoulder isn’t that smart at all that’s why he’s on your crew . Ha ? I like how you also brushed aside the ban bet you neglected and the site ignored ? :thumbsdow You were wrong about the arbitration. And the bet was about whether or not Joshua vs Fury is next. Technically I suppose that you aren't officially wrong about that yet, but it's not looking good for you. Wilder vs Fury 3 is scheduled and it would take a whole hell of a lot for that to go away and for Fury to fight Joshua instead. Plus you were too much of a sissy to accept the bet so it does you no good anyway. :lol1: Basically you're a dumbass who tried to pass himself off as having legal expertise. Then showed a lack of guts when challenged to back up your talk with a wager. That's you in a nutshell, REDEEMER.

When Wilder was the champ, Whyte was his #1 contender. Ortiz has had two shots at Wilder and lost. Why is it that people are fixated on Whyte fighting Ortiz but not Wilder? Because he talks tough about Luis Ortiz. But then never backs it up.

Shyte seems to think so. ​​ Whyte Warns: Luis Ortiz is Old Man - I'd Leave Him in a Bad Way! https://www.boxingscene.com/whyte-warns-luis-ortiz-old-man-id-leave-him-bad-way--128085 Yet he never seems to make the fight to prove it. When Wilder was the champ, Whyte was his #1 contender. Ortiz has had two shots at Wilder and lost. Why is it that people are fixated on Whyte fighting Ortiz but not Wilder?

There is no way I could disagree with that more. I respect the living hell out of boxers who step up, win or lose. There are all kinds of "name" boxers who do it against no one and act like they are owed. Matter of a fact, it is an epidemic in boxing right now. That Ortiz went after Wilder - and yes turned down the Joshua money to get his rematch- twice and came up short only means the man had stones enough to do it. I do like Ortiz. I like his fighting style and that he not only is sound in mechanics he also throws punches. I also get he does not have much on his resume to set him apart. But those fights against Wilder were great, as was his effort. He came to win. Won near every round except the three he got dropped in. I think it is to be respected. Now I wish he was more active. There are tons of "B" level names he should easily beat that he is not even trying for. But the idea losses are always bad is silly. In boxing, who you fought does matter. I think I said... I absolutely respect them, but there's no ranking credit in a losing effort. For Ortiz there was no loss of status in losing to Wilder. I'll happily disregard that and judge him on his wins. And that's where his resume falls down. I'll stand by my statement "It's not athletics. You don't record a good time when you come second in boxing." If, for example, someone takes Canelo to a close points decision, that won't make them number 2 P4P. There are no good losing scores. You win or lose. In boxing, it just means they have some matchmaking value, but it's their wins that will define their ranking.

Dillian Whyte has zero need to face Luiz Ortiz. Whyte may not be my favorite fighter, but you cannot deny his resume 'As I have said before? His resume is ranked in the top-3 at heavyweight'.

Shyte seems to think so. ​​ Whyte Warns: Luis Ortiz is Old Man - I'd Leave Him in a Bad Way! https://www.boxingscene.com/whyte-warns-luis-ortiz-old-man-id-leave-him-bad-way--128085 Yet he never seems to make the fight to prove it. Oh no! Jugglenutz doesn't like somebody so Billeau2 should not like them either. What are you, in kindergarten? That explains you're reasoning skills. Or lack thereof. Do you still insist that Joshua vs Fury is happening next? :dunce: ​​​​​ REdumber was right... it just happened in another time line, another Marvel Universe... When Redumber gets to his time machine, we all are in for a rough ride!

You’re part of the crazy crew with silly Billy on here . Maybe you dint realize it but you and him are taking a beating on this crazy crew thread and who’s in kindergarten again ? You can’t be this uneducated and really read your own posts and think you come across as an intelligent poster ,only you and Silly on here can ignore all the times Ortiz has declined offers . :lol1: A beating is what made you leave the forum for like almost a month lol. Then you tried to slick it out and suggested you went on vacation! Lol... too much!!! Ill take silly billy over redumber the village idiot any day. YOU have no credability.

It doesn’t t matter if you defended him what’s the excuse for the current stupidity now ? You don’t have one you can’t it really not possible any sane person comes to the conclusion that Ortiz has the same resume as everyone else . Ha There you go flip flopping again trying to redirect your what you said . It’s not even a weak division,a division isn’t weak with multiple Olympic champs and national ones ,you really are a lost soul and l Juggs doesn’t even like the guys you associate with on here how about that one ? Ha yeah it matters...Its the whole basis for why you are such a laughing stock HA! People have opinions and manage to share them constructively. You, the same one who derides others, is the one who always gets it wrong... you see the irony here? :lol1: I doubt it, I mean... No offense but you are dumb as a fence post.:sad6: I know there is nothing you can do about that... But you simply must get it through your head that the last thing you should be doing is calling others stupid... lets try to go slowly... You said that the Joshua fight was a sure thing with Fury, you called others stupid, kind of like you are doing here... and what happened? That stupid guy Shoulder Roll!!! He was right!!! And this is one of many. You were telling people about contracts and did not know what consideration is in a contract... You make hair brained excuses for AJ, like he had jet lag... Now you are crazy because you keep doing the same thing, expecting a different result... Life doesn't work that way... sorry. Still trying to get a friend I see.... lol pathetic HA! little boy, men do not act like children: they can disagree, and associate with whom they like... Your like in 5th grade lol. Your so desperate... Its a shame... shoulder wrecked you... (tear starts to form in his eye) Its so sad! (grabs tissues and bon bons)... HA!! I take guilty pleasure kicking you around... But its so much fun.... And Shoulder did wreck you...have you tried therapy?

Whyte finally came to his senses in his match making. He will do what other guys do, take easy touches while waiting on his WBC world title shot. fans of Ortiz are the last that should complain. ^^^^ This…. He was absolutely dumb. Thinking he would just be fighting tough competitions, when others always consolidate their position. You see Hunter ducking Hrgovic to take on Z-level competition, you see Fury fighting Wallin and Tom before Wilder 2, you see Wilder facing Breazeale and Ortiz before Fury, even Ruiz went after Arreola rather than fight Whyte for 4/5m. Now he is learning, he would fight bums until he gets his WBC shot. And honestly I don’t blame him right now, not after getting KTFO against Povetkin.

Whyte finally came to his senses in his match making. He will do what other guys do, take easy touches while waiting on his WBC world title shot. fans of Ortiz are the last that should complain. Those are good points. And the fact Ortiz has no real "fans" is 1/3 of his problem. He brings very little with him as far as ratings. Honestly, at this stage of his career I feel more people step up to him if he brought more interest.

Stepping up and giving a good account of yourself is overrated. Ortiz stepped up twice, put up a good showing, and got knocked out twice. And his best win is against a guy who stepped up and gave a good account of himself against Klitschko... but lost. Losing efforts prove nothing. Ortiz has no resume. It's not athletics. You don't record a good time when you come second in boxing. There is no way I could disagree with that more. I respect the living hell out of boxers who step up, win or lose. There are all kinds of "name" boxers who do it against no one and act like they are owed. Matter of a fact, it is an epidemic in boxing right now. That Ortiz went after Wilder - and yes turned down the Joshua money to get his rematch- twice and came up short only means the man had stones enough to do it. I do like Ortiz. I like his fighting style and that he not only is sound in mechanics he also throws punches. I also get he does not have much on his resume to set him apart. But those fights against Wilder were great, as was his effort. He came to win. Won near every round except the three he got dropped in. I think it is to be respected. Now I wish he was more active. There are tons of "B" level names he should easily beat that he is not even trying for. But the idea losses are always bad is silly. In boxing, who you fought does matter.

Ortiz? Isn't he in a retirement home? Shyte seems to think so. ​​ Whyte Warns: Luis Ortiz is Old Man - I'd Leave Him in a Bad Way! https://www.boxingscene.com/whyte-warns-luis-ortiz-old-man-id-leave-him-bad-way--128085 Yet he never seems to make the fight to prove it. It doesn’t t matter if you defended him what’s the excuse for the current stupidity now ? You don’t have one you can’t it really not possible any sane person comes to the conclusion that Ortiz has the same resume as everyone else . Ha There you go flip flopping again trying to redirect your what you said . It’s not even a weak division,a division isn’t weak with multiple Olympic champs and national ones ,you really are a lost soul and l Juggs doesn’t even like the guys you associate with on here how about that one ? Ha Oh no! Jugglenutz doesn't like somebody so Billeau2 should not like them either. What are you, in kindergarten? That explains you're reasoning skills. Or lack thereof. Do you still insist that Joshua vs Fury is happening next? :dunce: ​​​​​

Ortiz? Isn't he in a retirement home?

Whyte finally came to his senses in his match making. He will do what other guys do, take easy touches while waiting on his WBC world title shot. fans of Ortiz are the last that should complain.