Riddle me this.. Ugas hired a Southpaw Sparring mate Maurice Lee even before getting the Pacquiao lottery. Why?

They probably knew about the injury a long time ago and told Ugas to be ready. Ugas-Pac ain't gonna sell so they waited the last minute to pull the plug. This makes sense. They used Spence name to sell the fight then switcharoo.. That's filthy..

I think they knew about Spence eye injury right after the sparring debacle. I think they waited until after Fox showed the hour long Countdown to announce. I would bet Ugas and Manny knew they would be fighting each other the next day. No way they wouldn’t get Manny to sign off on Ugas before making that move.

Who cares tbh. Spence has a retinal tear and thats the end of discussion.

Ugas actually said in an interview he heard about Spence possibly being injured days before the announcement and heard he may be the replacement so he started getting ready for the possibility, the possibility which came true. Imagine being black and republican in 2021. Jesus, natural selection happening right before my own eyes

The Spoonster still sees Floyd losing in slow motion. now spoon23 is implying Ugas knew Spence was gonna pull out and he would face the Manny! I see Floyd in a DRAW with Manny at regular speed. The fight was a wash and NEITHER guy did anything. For whatever reason Floyd got credit for missing jabs and blocked rights. Doesnt really matter tho but i like both guys

Ugas actually said in an interview he heard about Spence possibly being injured days before the announcement and heard he may be the replacement so he started getting ready for the possibility, the possibility which came true.

Chances are he was sparring a southpaw in case something happened to either Spence or Pacquiao. Both guys are southpaws and with how many fights have been canceled or reshuffled due to COVID he probably figured there was a reasonable chance one of them could pull out. That explains why he was up against a disposable opponent like Fabian Maidana instead of somebody like a Keith Thurman, Mikey Garcia, Danny Garcia, Jamal James, etc.

come on Spoon you been on here this long and dont understand how training camps work by now? Actually first time I thought about that.. But you have point. You got the best answer.

come on Spoon you been on here this long and dont understand how training camps work by now?

Maybe. PAC’s guarantee purse was said to be $5mil. The reason for the low purse is because of the Pandemic adjustment that the sports world continues to impose, so PAC would acknowledge it anyways. The PPV upside is where the money banks in, and Team PAC knew this. Joe because PAC’s rate is actually significantly low, I think he still makes that minimum purse. You can’t discriminate against Canelo’s minimum guarantee just because it’s a higher number. That’s where fans forget about legal and fair rights. PBC MADE the offer to team Canelo, so the funds are there for a guarantee, said so by PBC, and one can’t say that’s it’s because of Plant. I think a Benavidez switch would make up for it or Charlo. It honestly would and those fights have had a bigger narrative than Plant. So PBC wouldn’t want to acknowledge that because they’re taking advantage that if it’s not Plant the value isn’t there. Fair game to them. PBC has the right to be insecure in not releasing Plant since they lose a belt, but don’t give us that a Canelo presence on Fox regardless wouldn’t cover the original offer. But let all be realistic. Looking at the pattern of recent events with PBC, would Haymon really want to SPLURGE on giving Canelo $40mil when Plant has little chance in beating Canelo? Let’s all be honest, Haymon would have to be an open gambler to even want that and this sport isn’t a game with revenue loss… plus he would look stupid to Fox unless he can guarantee them that Canelo would make another appearance on their network even if they lost the belt to the Mexican. PAC’s purse can stay the same because Spence’s purse would be gone. Meaning Spence, also affected by the pandemic decrease, would probably be guaranteed 2mil, maybe less. That means, Ugas, also hit by the pandemic guarantee, would make probably Plant’s highest payday or $750k. Means if PAC’s purse went lower, the difference from Spence and Ugas would cover PAC, so might as well keep it $5mil. That's a long way of saying Ca$hnelo styling on Al Haymon and all his PBC girls bballchump11 WBC WBA IBF WBO 1hourRun

Because he was Mannys back up opponent..this is nothing new..happens in literally every camp

The Spoonster still sees Floyd losing in slow motion. now spoon23 is implying Ugas knew Spence was gonna pull out and he would face the Manny!

Well Freddie Roach was holding the pads in an orthodox stance few weeks before the news broke that Spence is injured.

Maybe. PAC’s guarantee purse was said to be $5mil. The reason for the low purse is because of the Pandemic adjustment that the sports world continues to impose, so PAC would acknowledge it anyways. The PPV upside is where the money banks in, and Team PAC knew this. Joe because PAC’s rate is actually significantly low, I think he still makes that minimum purse. You can’t discriminate against Canelo’s minimum guarantee just because it’s a higher number. That’s where fans forget about legal and fair rights. PBC MADE the offer to team Canelo, so the funds are there for a guarantee, said so by PBC, and one can’t say that’s it’s because of Plant. I think a Benavidez switch would make up for it or Charlo. It honestly would and those fights have had a bigger narrative than Plant. So PBC wouldn’t want to acknowledge that because they’re taking advantage that if it’s not Plant the value isn’t there. Fair game to them. PBC has the right to be insecure in not releasing Plant since they lose a belt, but don’t give us that a Canelo presence on Fox regardless wouldn’t cover the original offer. But let all be realistic. Looking at the pattern of recent events with PBC, would Haymon really want to SPLURGE on giving Canelo $40mil when Plant has little chance in beating Canelo? Let’s all be honest, Haymon would have to be an open gambler to even want that and this sport isn’t a game with revenue loss… plus he would look stupid to Fox unless he can guarantee them that Canelo would make another appearance on their network even if they lost the belt to the Mexican. PAC’s purse can stay the same because Spence’s purse would be gone. Meaning Spence, also affected by the pandemic decrease, would probably be guaranteed 2mil, maybe less. That means, Ugas, also hit by the pandemic guarantee, would make probably Plant’s highest payday or $750k. Means if PAC’s purse went lower, the difference from Spence and Ugas would cover PAC, so might as well keep it $5mil. But the thing is it's going to sell a lot less than Pac-Spence. I'm not sure Ugas taking a lesser cut than Spence would offset that. Anyways, Pac's income would take a hit from the PPV revenue even with Ugas taking less.

Coincidentally, Maurice Lee was also Manny's sparring mate earlier in camp for Spence.. Too much f@cken coincidences already. The fight already been cooked. Judges bought. Referee that will favor Ugas. etc.

A lot of fans forget that Promoters have already assigned standby replacements A or B in the event a fighter is pulled out, PARTICULARLY for HUGE events. And we’ve seen undercard fighters take a fight replacement for the main or co-main. When big money fights are a narrative Promoters get very insecure, especially with the name of Pacquiao or the hopeful PBC Spence. So trainers inform Haymon what’s going on and Haymon double checks risk assessment. If Spence wasn’t tip top for months Haymon already knew about it and they exploited the situation for promotional gain. Why use Ugas months ahead when they can build non refundable PPV’s. Besides, it’s Pacquiao. So there’s low shame or guilt from PBC since they would assume that as long as PAC is still fighting the fans are getting their money’s worth. Plus, they have Spence and Manny headline that they would possibly fight each other after Ugas. i think the situation has imploded a bit, backfired on PBC. Tbh not that practices are anything new, but too many scenarios hit fast, and I think it’s because PBC is doing so much risk assessment that switcharoos have gone high, including Benavidez. right now one hot debate, a thread I inquired days ago and is a big subject on YT channels. Is Manny still getting his same guarantee? If he does or doesn’t, then it proves that Canelo’s insecurity was 100% justified. Thing is, PAC’s team are very persuasive with money because it’s Sean Gibbons involved. That goon would acknowledge many scenarios. He was investigated by the Feds years ago when he admitted to taking dives. Include Freddy Roach… you want my honest opinion, PAC’s team are all in on it tbh. They all stand to make lots of money so who cares who the replacement is. Pretty sure Manny's gonna get less fighting Ugas. But it's either that or wait for a better replacement to become available (Porter maybe?). Money now is a lot more valuable than money later.

They probably knew about the injury a long time ago and told Ugas to be ready. Ugas-Pac ain't gonna sell so they waited the last minute to pull the plug.

I'm guessing he would've known that he was a replacement opponent if either Pac/Spence pulled out, both of whom are southpaw? On the flip side, if it was some dodgy dealings I wouldn't be surprised either way.