This is why. Read slowly kid. Comments like yours is exactly the reason the commission should have went forward with perjury charges.
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Koncz also said Pac never used Peds, so was he lying about that too?
This was the doctor that said there was no way Gamboa could’ve carried on the way he did with a complete achilles tear. Me 1, youtube doctor 0.
Take note of doctor’s relegated to youtube videos.
LOL the fact that they even came out with this video and so quickly too. They think this video will help them but it just adds to the evidence that Spence wanted out of the fight and Haymon pulled him out.
Spence's camp has nothing to do with this video. I've followed this YouTube channel for years. He's always quick to upload. He had a video about McGregor's ankle break 60 minutes after the fight
I already thought there was something up with his reflex in the Danny G fight, that was my only takeaway from that fight basically. That he looked amazing all things considered, but that's all things considered...he still wasn't the same and not reacting the same to shots on that side of his head.
I'm really not sure what to think about the official diagnosis because what I'm reading says the symptoms are a sudden onset...I have to take it at face value but I'm just going off watching the guy since he was young just like many of you guys.
I vaguely remember that he did not spar for the Garcia fight - prob not needed given how Danny has been fighting lately, but of course he would need to for Pac. Since he has had to spar, perhaps the eyelid has been getting lazier and lazier over time (ala David Reid). Which might explain why there has been a lack of video promotion from his side - in other words, it wasn't a sudden onset, it's been degenerating as he's been sparring. I 100% believe there is something wrong with his eye, not questioning the injury...but what it actually is and whether or not it was really sudden is what I would question...only because I thought it before all this happened. It really doesn't matter at this point though, just hoping he can still fight on certain nights if everything goes rightI agree. I may be wrong but I believe that it came from that car accident. One cannot survive a car accident as that one an still remain the same fighter. I noticed subtle changes in his fight with Danny Garcia too. While he dominated the fight; He still didn't appear to be the same fighter. to me. He took two rounds off in a row. Which something that Erroll Spence never does in a fight.
I don't even think Spence made the call. I think the call was made for him by the commission.
You are exactly right! Spence didn't bow out of this fight he was forced out of it.
Yeah, I was suggesting Spence and his team, and most likely Haymon, knew about the malady.
"He's 43 yrs old, 2 yrs layoff, I'll stop him in the first or second round. He won't even touch me."
Confidence waned when he's hearing no negative news in the Pac camp.
Paqcuiao was meant to fight Crawford. Arum screwed up. Spence was not ready.
Yes the knew, right after he went and got checked after the rough sparring session that we all knew about.
No Manny and Crawford were never going to fight. Bob tried to set up the same thing he did with Bradley and Manny didn’t agree.
Of course Spence is ready. Why would he need to hear negative news from the Pac camp?
Your description of “ late” is faulty.
It wasn’t discovered late. It was discovered right after the sparring session that was very rough. A number of manny fans posted the video.
So yes, 11 days before the fight sucks, but you can’t discover an injury until it happens.
If you’re suggesting Spence isn’t hurt or he knew before and waited, at lea at provide some proof for that opinion.
Yeah, I was suggesting Spence and his team, and most likely Haymon, knew about the malady.
"He's 43 yrs old, 2 yrs layoff, I'll stop him in the first or second round. He won't even touch me."
Confidence waned when he's hearing no negative news in the Pac camp.
Paqcuiao was meant to fight Crawford. Arum screwed up. Spence was not ready.
I already thought there was something up with his reflex in the Danny G fight, that was my only takeaway from that fight basically. That he looked amazing all things considered, but that's all things considered...he still wasn't the same and not reacting the same to shots on that side of his head.
I'm really not sure what to think about the official diagnosis because what I'm reading says the symptoms are a sudden onset...I have to take it at face value but I'm just going off watching the guy since he was young just like many of you guys.
I vaguely remember that he did not spar for the Garcia fight - prob not needed given how Danny has been fighting lately, but of course he would need to for Pac. Since he has had to spar, perhaps the eyelid has been getting lazier and lazier over time (ala David Reid). Which might explain why there has been a lack of video promotion from his side - in other words, it wasn't a sudden onset, it's been degenerating as he's been sparring. I 100% believe there is something wrong with his eye, not questioning the injury...but what it actually is and whether or not it was really sudden is what I would question...only because I thought it before all this happened. It really doesn't matter at this point though, just hoping he can still fight on certain nights if everything goes right
Considering that over the last 1.5 years I have seen people go bat sh.it crazy buying hundreds of relevant currency in toilet f.ucking paper, a nationality of people from a “democratic republic” “first world country” raid their own capital because their presidential candidate lost, and people go ape s.hit over wearing masks to prevent the spread of a contagious virus….
I am NOT surprised that people are behaving like it’s some conspiracy and duck over a boxer having an eye injury and getting surgery on said eye.
people are literally that deluded.
it would be disingenuous to believe people are generally rational. They are not.
Question people should be asking is why was it discovered late?
Remember that this could have been a Crawford vs Paqcuiao fight,
which I actually preferred.
Arum failed to hold tight of it and literally slipped through his fingers.
PBC then jumped at the opportunity and took Pac away
before minds change, Even though knowing that Spence couldn't make it,
"You can always pull out and replace you with Ugas."
"It doesn't matter. As long as we got Pac for our PPV."
Your description of “ late” is faulty.
It wasn’t discovered late. It was discovered right after the sparring session that was very rough. A number of manny fans posted the video.
So yes, 11 days before the fight sucks, but you can’t discover an injury until it happens.
If you’re suggesting Spence isn’t hurt or he knew before and waited, at lea at provide some proof for that opinion.
Now this is coming from a certified and licensed physician. So hopefully this helps quell those detractors that are saying that Erroll was faking it in an attempt to avoid the Pac fight.
Which sounds very absurd and weird. Why would he duck the biggest fight and payday of his boxing career?
He wanted to fight and have the surgery after the fight but the doctors said no. They wouldn't clear him to fight Pacquiao until that retinal tear was fully healed. Therefore, they strongly recommended emergency surgery ASAP.
Chances are, it could have been a career ending injury with his vision being compromised against Manny Pacquiao. You may not like it but Spence made the right call here fellas and got it right this time.
I don't even think Spence made the call. I think the call was made for him by the commission.
coward move... pac was gonna quit on the stool anyways.... should have been more like tim bradley... fought with sprained ankle..
Judge however you wish. My response would be Manny getting stitches in 2013 once Floyd got the jail start date extended is the same kind of coward move.
No he should’ve done just what Manny did in 2013- get your eye done and not fight.
Of course Tim did that, he knew the Bob special was in place so he was going to win anyway.
You look like a complete tool for comparing a retinal tear to a mild sprained ankle. But hey, that is how you clowns roll.
floyd jr is the son of floyd sr!!!!!!!!!!!!! pac dont even live in the US and only see roach when he has a fight and he doesnt even train in the US the whole camp so he only see roach half of training camp!! buaahhahha!!!! roach speaks for manny? lmao!!!!!
I answered your question. It’s obvious to everyone. You’re playing dumb.
That's not his doctor.
I want his physician to Man UP!
Why his medical opinions are just as valid as any other physician? He is a certified and licensed doctor. He only confirmed what all of the rest of the doctors told Erroll Spence and that is he wouldn't be medically cleared to fight Manny Pacquiao due to that torn retina.
Now this is coming from a certified and licensed physician. So hopefully this helps quell those detractors that are saying that Erroll was faking it in an attempt to avoid the Pac fight.
Which sounds very absurd and weird. Why would he duck the biggest fight and payday of his boxing career?
He wanted to fight and have the surgery after the fight but the doctors said no. They wouldn't clear him to fight Pacquiao until that retinal tear was fully healed. Therefore, they strongly recommended emergency surgery ASAP.
Chances are, it could have been a career ending injury with his vision being compromised against Manny Pacquiao. You may not like it but Spence made the right call here fellas and got it right this time.
Now this is coming from a certified and licensed physician. So hopefully this helps quell those detractors that are saying that Erroll was faking it in an attempt to avoid the Pac fight.
Which sounds very absurd and weird. Why would he duck the biggest fight and payday of his boxing career?
He wanted to fight and have the surgery after the fight but the doctors said no. They wouldn't clear him to fight Pacquiao until that retinal tear was fully healed. Therefore, they strongly recommended emergency surgery ASAP.
Chances are, it could have been a career ending injury with his vision being compromised against Manny Pacquiao. You may not like it but Spence made the right call here fellas and got it right this time.
To your 1st paragraph, no because Floyd and Floyd sr were estranged for a long time unlike Manny and Freddie. He was even in an opponent’s corner.
No, you guys did. When Manny refused to test and refused to fight, you guys had to criticize the testing in order to defend that move from Manny.
not so much fake, just pointing out he didn’t mention it on the form before the fight and didn’t say anything until after he lost. Any boxer that does that gets criticized for making excuses. You Manny fans somehow expect him to not get the same treatment.
If you don’t believe Spence I don’t care. All we know is Spence did this prior to the fight, not after he lost in embarrassing fashion.
You’d be following the script if Spence had lost, omitted the injury on the pre fight form, and then told us about it after losing the fight.
That didn’t happen so you come off as a complete biased imbecile suggesting your following some script. Lmfao.
coward move... pac was gonna quit on the stool anyways.... should have been more like tim bradley... fought with sprained ankle..
To your 1st paragraph, no because Floyd and Floyd sr were estranged for a long time unlike Manny and Freddie. He was even in an opponent’s corner.
No, you guys did. When Manny refused to test and refused to fight, you guys had to criticize the testing in order to defend that move from Manny.
not so much fake, just pointing out he didn’t mention it on the form before the fight and didn’t say anything until after he lost. Any boxer that does that gets criticized for making excuses. You Manny fans somehow expect him to not get the same treatment.
If you don’t believe Spence I don’t care. All we know is Spence did this prior to the fight, not after he lost in embarrassing fashion.
You’d be following the script if Spence had lost, omitted the injury on the pre fight form, and then told us about it after losing the fight.
That didn’t happen so you come off as a complete biased imbecile suggesting your following some script. Lmfao.
floyd jr is the son of floyd sr!!!!!!!!!!!!! pac dont even live in the US and only see roach when he has a fight and he doesnt even train in the US the whole camp so he only see roach half of training camp!! buaahhahha!!!! roach speaks for manny? lmao!!!!!