Pac or Spence: Who dodged a bullet?

before I answer the question.... As much as I want the OG to beat Spence, I believe a healthy Errol will win. Now to answer your question......I believe Spence dodged a bullet because had it not been for doctors finding a tear in his retina, Pac definitely wouldve detached that shit and won by tko.

Spence because he was unknowingly risking his eye sight.

Pacquiao had little to lose and everything to gain. A loss to Spence would not have hurt his legacy. A win only enhances it. Spence had more to lose in both legacy and eyesight.

GrandPac got lucky... But Ugas would still destroy him...

!! Probably as Tua said, they knew about the "injury" way before they made the announcement. Tried to push through, but Spence didn't look too good in training so they pulled the plug. Ugas was always their plan B. They promised Spence the Ugas-Manny winner so now they have 2 big ww fights instead of 1. Spence gets a breather, Ugas gets a career defining fight, Manny still gets paid, PBC gets 2 big fights no matter what Everybody wins. Except the fans. Good post. See I just don’t think Manny v Ugas is a big fight. People, including me, were excited at the prospect of Spence/ Manny because of what it meant for both boxers, the sport, and what it could lead to- a u unified ww champ. Now it just feels so disappointing because if Manny loses badly, a Spence/Ugas fight doesn’t move the needle for boxing fans nearly as much. it seemed so easy- Spence/Manny winner v Porter/ Crawford winner.

The Big Dummy !!! Manny making you back pedal and change your stance on EVERYTHING XD XD XD I didn’t think you could support that accusation with any factual evidence.

This post makes no sense. Race card as well. just for clarity Which fight did I have the black guy up 6 rounds before the fight started? please be specific. Just a warning- please don’t say wilder v Fury 1 or Ward v kovalev 1 because you know I scored those fights for Fury and kovalev. I also hope you don’t mean Mw charlo over devrychenko or jmw charlo over castano, as I had the first a draw and the 2nd castano winning. The Big Dummy !!! Manny making you back pedal and change your stance on EVERYTHING XD XD XD

Of course, a medal for just turning up is all Manny ever needed from you, like the Olympic skater that was running last and the whole field fell on the last turn and he missed the pileup and won gold, were you the only one cheering lol. But you'd pick Pac to win as pac still so good. So let's just say Pac has beat thurman and spence now

The one who dodged the fight.

Pac denied biggest win. Might as well give Pac win. Of course, a medal for just turning up is all Manny ever needed from you, like the Olympic skater that was running last and the whole field fell on the last turn and he missed the pileup and won gold, were you the only one cheering lol.

Pac denied biggest win. Might as well give Pac win.

Ugas might not be as easy to beat as ppl think His last fight with a B grader had him wobbled numerous times, he is easy to hit and has no power if you look at his resume it is ordinary, too much of a plodder to beat Manny he doesn't move his head. Manny just went through the best camp he has had for years now he is fighting a guy not near as good as Spence, Manny should look really good if he struggles with Ugas he was in trouble with Spence.

Did Spence dodge a bullet with this injury, or did Pacquiao luck out with Spence pulling out? - -Y U takin' bullets in the gut?

I doubt Manny would pull out anyway, when you train for a fight the last thing you want is no fight, Manny doesn't have the time to pull out and sit on the sidelines he wants the money and is near the end. And especially with a guy that's easy for him to beat, now if they tried the same thing and it was TC Manny would probably say no deal but who knows. Ugas might not be as easy to beat as ppl think

There's no way they can get tc in a pbc event. But if they pulled out early enough, maybe Manny does tc in September or October. My conspiracy isn't on errol not being hurt. My theory is they pulled the plug too late for Manny to pull out. I doubt Manny would pull out anyway, when you train for a fight the last thing you want is no fight, Manny doesn't have the time to pull out and sit on the sidelines he wants the money and is near the end. And especially with a guy that's easy for him to beat, now if they tried the same thing and it was TC Manny would probably say no deal but who knows.

You know how that sparring video came out and spence didn't look good? Just guessing. Throwing it out there. Say he finds out he has a tear in his retina. They said they went to 3 doctors in the end. Say 1st doctor informs him of the tear. Theyre still trying to go ahead with the fight and seek the 2nd and 3rd opinion. In the meantime, he goes ahead and spars. That eye thing on his mind. Thinking about that eye. Worried about that eye. Maybe thats why he performed so badly in that sparring. Just throwing it out there. Cool tho ... But like I said only way your pulling out a fight like this is for a good reason. Pacquiao not a fighter you wanna get into the ring with a eye injury. I'm not trying to defend Spence to death ... You never know what people intentions are, but I wish we would wait before accusing him of ducking or faking a injury/surgery.

Exactly why it makes no sense on PBC trying to squeeze out two fights from Manny instead of Spence fighting him now. Spence losing to PAC still benefits him ... Career payday, raises his popularity. So why on earth would he pull out unless it's a good reason You know how that sparring video came out and spence didn't look good? Just guessing. Throwing it out there. Say he finds out he has a tear in his retina. They said they went to 3 doctors in the end. Say 1st doctor informs him of the tear. Theyre still trying to go ahead with the fight and seek the 2nd and 3rd opinion. In the meantime, he goes ahead and spars. That eye thing on his mind. Thinking about that eye. Worried about that eye. Maybe thats why he performed so badly in that sparring. Just throwing it out there.

If pac lost to spence Doesn't hurt his legacy at all All reward, no risk Pac win over ugas adds nothing Pac loss probably ends his prize fighter career He's too old to build himself back up Exactly why it makes no sense on PBC trying to squeeze out two fights from Manny instead of Spence fighting him now. Spence losing to PAC still benefits him ... Career payday, raises his popularity. So why on earth would he pull out unless it's a good reason

Ugas is the last person any of these guys would want to face. High risk low reward all day If pac lost to spence Doesn't hurt his legacy at all All reward, no risk Pac win over ugas adds nothing Pac loss probably ends his prize fighter career He's too old to build himself back up

Just saw the mits workout of both men. Pac's punches sounds like an AK-47 While Ugas sounds like a whimper. There's levels to this game.. Ugas is the last person any of these guys would want to face. High risk low reward all day