Guys the fix is in they set up Manny Pacquiao, this was all planned so Spence could fight Ugas for the WBA, Im going to bet big on UGAS by decision

Man just got back from watching the fight at my Coworkers house I made $2,400 total made multiple bets they all paid up, I just hope the two checks two of my coworkers wrote me for 200 each don't bounce. I was spot on. Im a better coach than Freddie Roach, Ugas was all wrong for Manny he had a short torso long ass arms and has good counters, that over hand right was landing at will. They did set Manny up though, I think Pac would have done better if he had a full 8 weeks to prepare for an orthodox guy, he had to adjust mid round to get used to a long tall orthodox jab, Ugas was preparing for Pacquiao all along. Pac age showed Spence blew his chance of being a super star, I dont know if anyone will even bother to tune into Spence vs Ugas, even though Ugas beat Pacquaio the people came for Pacman and chanted his name after he lost.

manny pacquiao pissed off some powerful people over there at the Grove in los angeles. now that he is involved in politics,NOTHING off the table ! SICK PEOPLE! What you mean mang?

Only people who don’t know how to think about long-term investment says that. There is actually more potential money for Spence now because he pulled out, and also an easier way get it. Hint: he can fight an easier B opponent in Ugas, or an older Grand Pac, for the same or actually even more money. Win-Win for Spence. I wouldn’t be shocked if Al Haymon paid him extra as well to pretend and play along. My long term investment game is just fine. And you're wrong. Dead wrong

manny pacquiao pissed off some powerful people over there at the Grove in los angeles. now that he is involved in politics,NOTHING off the table ! SICK PEOPLE!

My Coworker thinks Pacquiao is going to beat Ugas so I told him lets bet and he agreed 500 bucks, I told him win or lose bet, and he said deal so I got 500 extra coming my way its easy money. If I lose so what I lost more gambling in vegas on the tables. If you look at everything its all fishy, WBA refused to grant Pacquiao super status, WBA is PBC and Haymons sanctioning body, just like WBO is loyal to Arum and Top Rank. If Pacquiao whooped Spence that would hurt PBC's biggest asset, Spence is the one with the upside Pac is on his way out, this way they will market it as Spence taking on the man who upset the great Manny Pacquiao, Pac style is all wrong for Spence where Ugas is an easier fight for Spence. Ugas was preparing for Pacquiao all a long, he was sparring Maurice Lee who was basically a mole for Ugas, Lee was sparring Pacquiao early in camp and then Ugas was sparring him a few weeks ago, why would Ugas be sparring a southpaw for Maidana who is orthodox? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIBC_zjKT6c Ugas after watching him fight is all wrong for Manny, he is actually better than Spence when it comes to his defense, he also throws body combo flurries and has long arms and a short torso which makes it very hard to hit him through his guard defense and has good timing. This thing was set up, if this fight goes the Distance I got Ugas, there is no way Pac is going to win this fight. This is the business of boxing its a shady game guys, Arum would do the same ****, no wonder Floyd said he won't let boxing retire him he took control of his career unlike Pacquiao who basically just fights whoever they tell him too even a late replacement who was already preparing to fight him and has inside knowledge on his camp. Ugas gonna ko pac with a jab. Just like Rios did.

You guys have smoked yourselves ret@rd3d.

My Coworker thinks Pacquiao is going to beat Ugas so I told him lets bet and he agreed 500 bucks, I told him win or lose bet, and he said deal so I got 500 extra coming my way its easy money. If I lose so what I lost more gambling in vegas on the tables. If you look at everything its all fishy, WBA refused to grant Pacquiao super status, WBA is PBC and Haymons sanctioning body, just like WBO is loyal to Arum and Top Rank. If Pacquiao whooped Spence that would hurt PBC's biggest asset, Spence is the one with the upside Pac is on his way out, this way they will market it as Spence taking on the man who upset the great Manny Pacquiao, Pac style is all wrong for Spence where Ugas is an easier fight for Spence. Ugas was preparing for Pacquiao all a long, he was sparring Maurice Lee who was basically a mole for Ugas, Lee was sparring Pacquiao early in camp and then Ugas was sparring him a few weeks ago, why would Ugas be sparring a southpaw for Maidana who is orthodox? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIBC_zjKT6c Ugas after watching him fight is all wrong for Manny, he is actually better than Spence when it comes to his defense, he also throws body combo flurries and has long arms and a short torso which makes it very hard to hit him through his guard defense and has good timing. This thing was set up, if this fight goes the Distance I got Ugas, there is no way Pac is going to win this fight. This is the business of boxing its a shady game guys, Arum would do the same ****, no wonder Floyd said he won't let boxing retire him he took control of his career unlike Pacquiao who basically just fights whoever they tell him too even a late replacement who was already preparing to fight him and has inside knowledge on his camp. No one can beat Spence except MAYBE pac or Crawford. Ugas is not special but good.

I would probably stop watching boxing forever if pac gets robbed and that happens-

Why do you guys think they let pacquiao continue to fight a dangerous no name opponent last minute? Is this a smart move for pbc since this is pacmans last fight with haymon? Usually such a big fight gets canceled or delayed, why risk a cash cow against a guy with no real upside unless they are banking on ugas to beat pacquiao?

Nope, It is not really just boxing, its always been business. A business? Yes. Similar to the stock market? No.

Stupid comparison. This isn’t the stock market. It’s boxing. Nope, It is not really just boxing, its always been business.

Who is paying the fighter's purses? Tom Brown or Al Haymon's company? Doesnt matter, but I would suspect there is a joint escrow account funded by Haymon that Brown issues checks from. But if the event were cancelled, there are no purses to refund. Any training camp advances would likely have been funneled through Brown to make sure they are recoverable in the event of a cancellation. All perfectly legal.

why do you keep posting this same falsehood again and again and again?? Tom Brown (the promoter of record) would have ordered cancellation insurance the minute the fight was signed back in May, ALL expenses would have been funneled through Brown. And all those expenses would have been covered under the cancellation insurance. Haymon would not have lost a dime by cancelling...... Who is paying the fighter's purses? Tom Brown or Al Haymon's company?

I guess you haven’t heard of the terms investments, stocks, 401k, etc. in your life. Losing money now, can actually be more money in the future. if that still does not make sense to you, im sorry. Stupid comparison. This isn’t the stock market. It’s boxing.

How bout Crawford in December? …………………..

Now with his I agree. However, since Al Haymon is not a promoter in the traditional sense of the word; He is not a licensed promoter. Then he won't be able to file a promoter's insurance cancellation claim to recover all of the monetary damages and losses that he may have spent on this fight already. It would be a total loss financially for him. why do you keep posting this same falsehood again and again and again?? Tom Brown (the promoter of record) would have ordered cancellation insurance the minute the fight was signed back in May, ALL expenses would have been funneled through Brown. And all those expenses would have been covered under the cancellation insurance. Haymon would not have lost a dime by cancelling......

Man Ugas doesnt even have to throw much he already gonna neutralize anything PAc throws, Pacman doesnt really throw much either at his age he conserves his energy. I been watching Ugas for the first time and studying him this guy is very good. Good defense, and sneaky attacks he looks slow but then he shocks you with a quick shot to keep you honest. He has power too he hurt Omar Figueroa but just didnt go for the kill Pac is not going to win a wide decision, I think they should have postponed the fight but I wonder if Pac is hurting for money? they could have at least got him Robert Guerrero who is fighting on the undercard that would have been a more winnable fight for Manny and he is also a southpaw.Now with his I agree. However, since Al Haymon is not a promoter in the traditional sense of the word; He is not a licensed promoter. Then he won't be able to file a promoter's insurance cancellation claim to recover all of the monetary damages and losses that he may have spent on this fight already. It would be a total loss financially for him.

My Coworker thinks Pacquiao is going to beat Ugas so I told him lets bet and he agreed 500 bucks, I told him win or lose bet, and he said deal so I got 500 extra coming my way its easy money. If I lose so what I lost more gambling in vegas on the tables. If you look at everything its all fishy, WBA refused to grant Pacquiao super status, WBA is PBC and Haymons sanctioning body, just like WBO is loyal to Arum and Top Rank. If Pacquiao whooped Spence that would hurt PBC's biggest asset, Spence is the one with the upside Pac is on his way out, this way they will market it as Spence taking on the man who upset the great Manny Pacquiao, Pac style is all wrong for Spence where Ugas is an easier fight for Spence. Ugas was preparing for Pacquiao all a long, he was sparring Maurice Lee who was basically a mole for Ugas, Lee was sparring Pacquiao early in camp and then Ugas was sparring him a few weeks ago, why would Ugas be sparring a southpaw for Maidana who is orthodox? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIBC_zjKT6c Ugas after watching him fight is all wrong for Manny, he is actually better than Spence when it comes to his defense, he also throws body combo flurries and has long arms and a short torso which makes it very hard to hit him through his guard defense and has good timing. This thing was set up, if this fight goes the Distance I got Ugas, there is no way Pac is going to win this fight. This is the business of boxing its a shady game guys, Arum would do the same ****, no wonder Floyd said he won't let boxing retire him he took control of his career unlike Pacquiao who basically just fights whoever they tell him too even a late replacement who was already preparing to fight him and has inside knowledge on his camp. Sure, Ill say styles make fights, but if Pacquioa is unable to beat Ugas who's not a heavy handed fighter, low punch output, suspect defense, and subpar footwork, then I think Spence is and would've beaten pacman anyways. Remember Ugas was hurt multiple times in the fight against Porter, and Porter wasn't even fighting like himself which never fairs him well in fights. Porter does best being a controlled linebacker and in the Ugas fight he was doing much more "boxing". With that said, I think Ugas wins a tough decision, meaning at this point in their respective careers Ugas is the better/fresher fighter. Ill admit that a lot of this stuff looks fishy but I don't think the PBC wouldve purposely lost out on one of their biggest paydays in the last few years.

Nonsense… PBC are losing out on a lot of money by Pacquiao-Spence not happening. I guess you haven’t heard of the terms investments, stocks, 401k, etc. in your life. Losing money now, can actually be more money in the future. if that still does not make sense to you, im sorry.

It's all about the money Spence pulling out loses A LOT of money So I'm not gonna Alex Jones this one Only people who don’t know how to think about long-term investment says that. There is actually more potential money for Spence now because he pulled out, and also an easier way get it. Hint: he can fight an easier B opponent in Ugas, or an older Grand Pac, for the same or actually even more money. Win-Win for Spence. I wouldn’t be shocked if Al Haymon paid him extra as well to pretend and play along.