I keep hearing about him getting scared and pulling out, but this makes no sense. More BS from the anti PBC guys
Let's first of all look into the mentality of a young professional fighter. Win or lose its your dream to have your name attached to a legend like Manny Pacquiao, why risk losing out on that opportunity unless you had a really good reason like a career ending injury. Let's also look at the mentality of a guy who just spent the last weeks in a grueling training camp. I've literally seen fighters cry realizing they trained for nothing and can't fight. Training camp literally is writing a check, and fighting is cashing it. This ain't just about him and his pride, this effects his pockets family and city.
Another example of people who never fought, never been in gyms or really around fighters spewing BS.
I figured Spence would win fairly easy but I’m not privy to what’s going on in Spence’s camp. I’m not saying that’s what happened but if things, for whatever reason, we’re not going well, I could see them bailing out.
I hope that isn’t what happened but stranger things…
Spence is not ducking Pacquiao. Crawford is not ducking Spence. It’s their promoters doing the ducking.
This PBC duck is certainly suspicious. WBA stripping Manny and giving it to Ugas. To make the planned fight interesting?.At least a storyline?
Hardly any promotion from Spence’s side. Because he wasn’t really training? Nothing much to show?
Even thought it's hard for Spence's fans to accept, this is highly suspicious. I comment in a Youtube video a couple of days ago, that I was looking at Pacquiao engaged and looking in tip top shape why I was looking at Spence sad. I will try to find the comment with the date and post it here.
I suspect that maybe others people beside me, where starting to feel that Pacquiao was going to shock Spence and the whole world on August 21th
I keep hearing about him getting scared and pulling out, but this makes no sense. More BS from the anti PBC guys
Let's first of all look into the mentality of a young professional fighter. Win or lose its your dream to have your name attached to a legend like Manny Pacquiao, why risk losing out on that opportunity unless you had a really good reason like a career ending injury. Let's also look at the mentality of a guy who just spent the last weeks in a grueling training camp. I've literally seen fighters cry realizing they trained for nothing and can't fight. Training camp literally is writing a check, and fighting is cashing it. This ain't just about him and his pride, this effects his pockets family and city.
Another example of people who never fought, never been in gyms or really around fighters spewing BS.
How does getting ktfo by a 43 yr old benefit Spence in any way?
Anyways, Spence will be back on track after he defeats Ugas next year after Ugas won a controversial split decision over the great Manny Pacquiao.
PAC is getting older every year, he already just had a layoff, why take the chance of Manny retiring or losing to Ugas.... Who is high risk low reward for anyone.
As a gambler, businessman or promoter it ain't worth the risk
now if this was years ago I would entertain y'all conspiracy theory since Spence would have been less experienced and Manny would have been younger.
If Manny lost to Ugas then retired, Ugas' stock rises. They'll make Spence-Ugas for the unification bout.
Either way, it's a win for them. They get the Manny fight and they'll get Spence-Manny or Spence-Ugas depending on how manny vs. Ugas goes.
2 big fights>1 big fight
Now, I'm not really too sold on Spence faking the injury narrative but to say PBC doesn't benefit from this is kind of ignorant.
They wasn't signed to fight anyone, business got in the way. They didn't pull out a fight.
How is this not common sense
So the fights had to be signed for you to realize that PBC don’t like to risk their champions/premier fighters in fights where the other guy can run with their belts to other networks? Pacquiao doesn’t look twice at Ugas without this situation. And it makes his most likely fight after this, still Spence. So what does Spence lose if Pacquiao wins and still fights him? And what does Spence lose if Haymon is making him promises? These guys don’t care about legacy, The biggest money fight at Welter besides Pacquiao has been Crawford and Spence hasn’t showed any care about that fight happening. He’s been happy fighting Porter/Danny and he’ll be happy fighting Ugas before moving up.
To be honest, Ugas is a high risk low reward. Of course Spence didnt fake the injury but you got to admit its kind of odd. Maidana injured, Spence injured and we now have Ugas vs Pacquiao for the belt Manny had. Spence must be pissed.
It's about as odd as When Canelo kept having bad luck when Paul Williams got into a wreck, then Ortiz being knocked out.
It's boxing.... We have seen worst odd things.
But this odd thing happened less than 24 hours ago, and look at everyone??
People hate for PBC is pathetic.... Like damn can y'all wait to accuse him of faking an injury when the truth will eventually come out
You can't fake surgery. But knowing these weirdos they will make that claim also when they move the goal post
How did Ortiz and Wilder turning down Joshua benefit them? How Gervonta Davis and Jermall Charlo turning down Farmer and Andrade benefit them? Pacquiao is barely PBC. And he’s been saying 2 fights max, if that. So he has 1 fight after Ugas. This ages him and lowers the odds of him carrying the belts outside. The WBA is the PBC belt. Their rankings are 90% comprised of PBC fighters. If Pacquiao vacates that belt, it’ll be PBC fighters fighting for it. If Ugas wins it’s two puppets Haymon has that he doesn’t have to worry about running away.
If what some theorize is true and the “premier” champs have stock on PBC, it’s also to their benefit to do things that favor their company. And you don’t know what promises Haymon is making in the background, he is known for giving “gifts” to his fighters, money, cars, houses etc.
So I can think up a few reasons. But I’m passed it now. PBC is like Billy Joe Saunder’s the company, consistently proving to me that they are a waste of time and energy.
They wasn't signed to fight anyone, business got in the way. They didn't pull out a fight.
How is this not common sense
To be honest, Ugas is a high risk low reward. Of course Spence didnt fake the injury but you got to admit its kind of odd. Maidana injured, Spence injured and we now have Ugas vs Pacquiao for the belt Manny had. Spence must be pissed.
How did Ortiz and Wilder turning down Joshua benefit them? How Gervonta Davis and Jermall Charlo turning down Farmer and Andrade benefit them? Pacquiao is barely PBC. And he’s been saying 2 fights max, if that. So he has 1 fight after Ugas. This ages him and lowers the odds of him carrying the belts outside. The WBA is the PBC belt. Their rankings are 90% comprised of PBC fighters. If Pacquiao vacates that belt, it’ll be PBC fighters fighting for it. If Ugas wins it’s two puppets Haymon has that he doesn’t have to worry about running away.
If what some theorize is true and the “premier” champs have stock on PBC, it’s also to their benefit to do things that favor their company. And you don’t know what promises Haymon is making in the background, he is known for giving “gifts” to his fighters, money, cars, houses etc.
So I can think up a few reasons. But I’m passed it now. PBC is like Billy Joe Saunder’s the company, consistently proving to me that they are a waste of time and energy.
The idea is that instead of having 1 big money fight, PBC has now possibly 2 money fights. I doubt Pacquiao will retire if he beats Ugas.
I'm not buying it though. Injuries can happen anytime and I would give Errol Spence the benefit of the doubt.
It just sucks that the biggest fight this year got cancelled so its hard to blame the fans.
PAC is getting older every year, he already just had a layoff, why take the chance of Manny retiring or losing to Ugas.... Who is high risk low reward for anyone.
As a gambler, businessman or promoter it ain't worth the risk
now if this was years ago I would entertain y'all conspiracy theory since Spence would have been less experienced and Manny would have been younger.
It benefits PBC because their top guy remains undefeated and stays marketable. Isn’t that EXTREMELY OBVIOUS?
They probably thought Thurman would get it done against Pacquiao like many here did. That Broner was useful in spicing up the fight but in no way showed Pacquiao would be a threat to Thurman. PBC gets the torch.
But Thurman got dropped and clearly lost. But one judge stayed with the script and somehow saw a Thurman win.
Now Pacquiao is said to be even better in training now than he was for Thurman. You don’t need to believe what people say. You can see it yourself on youtube unless your biases are so strong to have made you blind.
eat your own shiiiet!!! isnt that what yall was saying of pacquiao before??? that he's scared of spence and crawford, etc.!!!! why would he be scared of these fighters for??? now you on that side on the fence..
How does this benefit PBC? Manny is on his last leg of career if Manny retires or Ugas wins this ain't good for Pbc compared to Spence fighting Manny even if he lost.
Well I would agree with that......unless of course there's a comparable big fight out there for him.....like Spence vs Crawford?
ding ding ding! I hit the jackpot!
Donaire did the same sh@t
Why bother going through Casimero when the Inoue fight is waiting for him?
Why bother fighting Pacquiao when the Crawford fight is waiting for him?
Don't bother with these people. Everything is a conspiracy around here nowadays. It makes absolutely no sense for Spence to lie about a retinal tear of all things. Even being associated with that kinda thing as a boxer puts a huge question mark over your career. No way would he lie about that.
He remains undefeated cos that's what's important in boxing these days.
They called out Manny years ago, Manny is older and finally accepted, why pull out a fight your favored to win even at 80%
Spence is not ducking Pacquiao. Crawford is not ducking Spence. It’s their promoters doing the ducking.
This PBC duck is certainly suspicious. WBA stripping Manny and giving it to Ugas. To make the planned fight interesting?.At least a storyline?
Hardly any promotion from Spence’s side. Because he wasn’t really training? Nothing much to show?
Manny got stripped cuz he took too long to defend.
How does this benefit PBC? Manny is on his last leg of career if Manny retires or Ugas wins this ain't good for Pbc compared to Spence fighting Manny even if he lost.