When the "A-side" gets robbed of a win...

Ever heard of James Toney? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha James Toney, the guy involved in one of the biggest robberies ever against Dave Tiberi in which Tiberi was robbed, is the most robbed guy ever??? When exactly was James Toney robbed? James Toney won MANY decisions he could easily have lost.

The Pacquaio/Bradley fight takes some beating.

When I watched it live, I thought Lyndon Arthur cant win fighting with that negative backfoot jab style vs the A-side fighter. A lot of those rounds were not seperated by much because nothing much was going in, so I expected them to give Yarde enough of those close rounds. (bscene scored that fight 114-114).

The draw card for Mayweather / Canelo was nuts. Mayweather was the biggest fighter in the sport and all the money followed him around. It was insane to see a corrupt card going against him.

Lol....that guy one of the most annoying guys on here. I swear lol He’s top ten lol

Lol we can go back and forth for a day naming guys who have been robbed more than Manny. Lol....that guy one of the most annoying guys on here. I swear lol

Augustus....... Lol we can go back and forth for a day naming guys who have been robbed more than Manny.

Ever heard of James Toney? Augustus.......

I was thinking of instances when the house fighter appeared to do enough to win only for the judges give a suspect win to the "B-side". Only ones I could think of off the top of my head: Pacquiao/Bradley: probably the gold standard for this rare phenomenon. Vences/Lopez Vargas: Vences was supposed to win and most thought he did enough but the judges gave it to the Mexican. It was a fairly close fight tho. Pacquiao/Horn: This doesn't really count since they were fighting in the Hornet's backyard and it was an ugly brawl and fairly close. ​​​​​​Moloney/Franco II: In the rematch, Top Rank's Maloney appeared to have a stoppage win when Franco suffered eye date from a punch. The ref ruled it a clash of heads and the replay team inexplicably agreed despite the video clearly showing no headbutt. A few aren't great examples, can anyone add to the list? Its happens cause judges dont know sheeit about boxing. I dont know why ALL JUDGES arent ALL ex professional fighters. Seems like a no brainer but we are talking about business majors.

In the US, I can't think of any that haven't already been mentioned. But in Japan they gave N'jikam the win over Murata, I remember that as a bad decision but can't recall how I had it exactly. In the UK I have to go back 18 years to remember one, Chi-Brodie, where the home fighter deserved the W but didn't get it. Another one from that era was Thompson-Eubank. It wasn't a robbery but Eubank edged it imo, and he was a much bigger name than Thompson, he got a lot of media attention whereas Thompson was a humble guy who didn't say much. It was surprising the decision went his way N’Dam-Murata is a great shout actually. That was a terrible decision.

I was thinking of instances when the house fighter appeared to do enough to win only for the judges give a suspect win to the "B-side". Only ones I could think of off the top of my head: Pacquiao/Bradley: probably the gold standard for this rare phenomenon. Vences/Lopez Vargas: Vences was supposed to win and most thought he did enough but the judges gave it to the Mexican. It was a fairly close fight tho. Pacquiao/Horn: This doesn't really count since they were fighting in the Hornet's backyard and it was an ugly brawl and fairly close. ​​​​​​Moloney/Franco II: In the rematch, Top Rank's Maloney appeared to have a stoppage win when Franco suffered eye date from a punch. The ref ruled it a clash of heads and the replay team inexplicably agreed despite the video clearly showing no headbutt. A few aren't great examples, can anyone add to the list? Oscar vs Tito and Oscar vs Mosley 2 maybe. I wouldn’t say either were necessarily robberies but I had Oscar winning both.

Charlo/Harrison 1 Completely forgot about that. It was a close fight but I think the majority felt Jermell was more deserving. Charlo definitely didn't get the benefit of the doubt in that one. Thanks for pointing that one out.

CJ Ross giving Canelo a tie against Mayweather in an 11-1 fight comes to mind. That's a good example.

Charlo/Harrison 1

CJ Ross giving Canelo a tie against Mayweather in an 11-1 fight comes to mind.

I think pac is the most robbed boxer in the history of the sport. Ever heard of James Toney?

canelo the a-side v ggg first fight, i thought canelo lost the fight but he was only awarded a draw in that one so he could say maybe he was robbed of his win being the a-side, i mean for example i remember ward got awarded a win and the belts against kovalev first fight, that was a classic a side win imo

I think it be set ups..... Like Bradley vs Pacquiao. I seriously think Arum was behind it, it 100% benefited him, and he didn't seem upset his star fighter got robbed. Arum was rubbing his hands like Birdman It's interesting that there haven't been any concrete examples of bad judging not going in the favor of the "A-side" fighter. If it was truly bad/incompetent judging then you'd have more variance all over the place. In the Pacquiao/Bradley example, even the bad judging that went against Bradley offered up a financial benefit for the promotion of a trilogy that probably should have never happened. ​​​​​​

Neither Bradley or Horn Vs Pacquiao were robberies. No, perhaps the term "robbery" isn't the most accurate for any of these and maybe that's kind of the point. There aren't many occasions when the one with promotional backing or the perceived revenue generator gets "robbed" and there aren't many instances where they don't get the blatant "benefit of the doubt" for close rounds on judges cards.

I was thinking of instances when the house fighter appeared to do enough to win only for the judges give a suspect win to the "B-side". Only ones I could think of off the top of my head: Pacquiao/Bradley: probably the gold standard for this rare phenomenon. Vences/Lopez Vargas: Vences was supposed to win and most thought he did enough but the judges gave it to the Mexican. It was a fairly close fight tho. Pacquiao/Horn: This doesn't really count since they were fighting in the Hornet's backyard and it was an ugly brawl and fairly close. ​​​​​​Moloney/Franco II: In the rematch, Top Rank's Maloney appeared to have a stoppage win when Franco suffered eye date from a punch. The ref ruled it a clash of heads and the replay team inexplicably agreed despite the video clearly showing no headbutt. A few aren't great examples, can anyone add to the list? That wasn’t so much the A side getting robbed, that was the standard TR trilogy set up. Manny ain’t fall for that with Crawford. Of course we didn’t know it at the time, we just thought it was a pure robbery. I also don’t think Manny got robbed against Horn. He just got beat.