I kind of anticipated people would get defensive about this part, but there's a difference between being able to back-step and fire off a counter, and consistently fire off shots while backpedaling. Paulie made a similar point when critiquing Wilder vs Fury and everyone was pointing out the Szpilka KO.
Yeah good point about that. Sergio Martinez fought similar to Pacquiao, but he was better at the back peddle game and countering. Not so much retreating and getting back out of range though.
Yeah Manny is best vs aggressive, flat footed fighters, but that's with him using angles to turn them and get in and out. He sucks going backwards though and tends to just rush backwards overly defensive when pressured properly. Lomachenko is similar to this as well.
I kind of anticipated people would get defensive about this part, but there's a difference between being able to back-step and fire off a counter, and consistently fire off shots while backpedaling. Paulie made a similar point when critiquing Wilder vs Fury and everyone was pointing out the Szpilka KO.
If pac can outbox floyd mayweather then it's safe to say that pac can outbox spence..
If pac can outbox floyd mayweather then it's safe to say that pac can outbox spence..
Pu$$ywacko, 15 more days and your ignorant a$$ is outta here and truly STUPID posts like this one are why no one will be disappointed.
At the start of round 10
Floyd backed manny up and landed 3 strikes. manny stood there and had no answer
manny at his best in reverse gear. Nah
Yeah Manny is best vs aggressive, flat footed fighters, but that's with him using angles to turn them and get in and out. He sucks going backwards though and tends to just rush backwards overly defensive when pressured properly. Lomachenko is similar to this as well.
Yeah I'm surprised at how butt hurt they are by it.
Yeah, it's crazy they are so insecure I thought he was unbiased with both guys and showed what he thought was the plus and minus for both.
If Manny is not being polished they run off.
People have no reason to be defensive
the video editor pointed out what BOTH fighters can do to hurt each other
he doesn’t even make a prediction
Yeah I'm surprised at how butt hurt they are by it.
The right hook of Manny will be the key in this fight. Youth and power will be on Spence side, but experience, speed and angles of Manny is too much. Spence will have his moments, but Pacquiao will do better. UD for Pac
If pac can outbox floyd mayweather then it's safe to say that pac can outbox spence..
Backfoot and the whole nine yards.
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Now you imagining sht
Can Floyd back guys up. Yes he backed manny up a couple times in the fight
but since when was it Floyd’s MO to fight most of the fight inside
manny dances pivots uses his feet to outmaneuver guys and get shots in from awkward angles
but a backfoot fighter. Nah
That’s dudes like Floyd Whitaker Ali Willie Pep
floyd was grabbing and holding.. is this what yall call "backing up"?
did just their common opponents said spence is not that hard of a puncher? i don't see any problem here for manny.. and it's will be a long night if spence will ride his bicycle like floyd. but i doubt spence will not fight.. so pac will win by k.o..
back in the day Morales long arms and jab bothered manny plenty
so did Floyd’s jab and long arms
guys who are successful inside vs manny go through hell just to get there. Like Horn
young manny beats up dudes who need an inside fight and come towards him
Floyd starts outside but hes an inside boxer.
manny is best coming forward
however cutting rings off and inside fighting aren’t areas he’s very good at
going back with a high guard to tank body shots isn’t fighting backing up
that's funny.. didnt pac fought marg going back most of the time?
didnt pac dropped cotto while backing up?
why are floyd fans still posting as if manny didnt actually outland floyd as clearly indicated in spoons videos.
available evidence suggests 1 handed manny outboxed an IV-injected floyd.
manny will hopefully have both his arms for this fight, and unless spence has the clout to pay off judges, manny will not be losing every round by default like he did against floyd. Also, i dont imagine spence would have the clout to benefit from a TUE if he were found to be using peds/IV.
Now you imagining sht
Can Floyd back guys up. Yes he backed manny up a couple times in the fight
but since when was it Floyd’s MO to fight most of the fight inside
manny dances pivots uses his feet to outmaneuver guys and get shots in from awkward angles
but a backfoot fighter. Nah
That’s dudes like Floyd Whitaker Ali Willie Pep
Pacquiao fans can't see Floyd walking Pacquiao down. They don't understand that Pacquiao can't really fight good moving backwards. All Floyd got to do is walk Pac in to the ropes, or turn Pac into the ropes, body beat him to death.
Guaranteed that he walks Manny down.
Did somebody just post that to walk people down you have to be willing to take your opponent's shots?
No wonder you guys think Floyd can't do it...you don't know what walking a fighter down means :lol1:
Not really. Floyd has a 5 inch reach advantage, and Pac can't fight as well going backwards.
I was thinking more of landing his right hand lead, smothering to avoid return fire and locking his arms up, wrestling, and working on the inside. Watch Morales smother him, work the body and push him back while avoiding counters.
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Those two can be mental midgets, that doesn't mean they didn't come in with the intention to prove a point. Ortiz took a beating but it was really that lead right hand that discouraged him in the 4th round, Mayweather landed it as he was chasing Ortiz. Judah fought a damn good fight but at the same time he got the fight beaten out of him, that was one of Mayweather's best body punching displays. Offensively Mayweather clicks against southpaws, and Sr. already gave away that Mayweather will be walking Pacquiao down.
There's Floyd fans on twitter also saying Floyd will walk PAC down as he is the bigger and stronger guy
There's a lot of Floyd fans thinking this
And I go by the saying that the majority opinion is usually the correct one
At the moment I don't see that happening until Floyd is down on the cards and him and his corner sense the urgency to win rounds - this will happen in second half of fight
But if so many people think he will start this early on ...
I guess the reasoning would be that he may look to slow PAC down with body shots. I remember Bradley landing body shots in their fights . And Tmt did an interview saying he's looking for body shots.
he's gonna have trouble no matter what he does with pacquiao, these guys think he'll slowly come forward and keep the distance by taking small steps back when pacquiao chooses to charge, but floyd can't keep that up, he's naturally stylistically a fairly flat-footed fighter(esspecially now), and when he's on the offensive, he rarely even takes one step back, and when in that mode he will get boxed to bits
his best bet is keeping the fight as quiet as possible and taking rounds with single digit landed punches, while majority of the time walking away from pacquiao, fighting an all-round negative fight
This was a common theme. All these quotes is from one thread.
At the start of round 10
Floyd backed manny up and landed 3 strikes. manny stood there and had no answer
manny at his best in reverse gear. Nah
I didn’t see Mayweather push Pacquiao back in the start of rd 10. But He did try in rd 7 where Pacquiao easily spun away from Mayweather and had him reaching and falling into the ropes before (off the back-foot) countering Mayweather’s right hand to the body with a straight left to Mayweather’s head, and later while Mayweather is still trying to be aggressive a counter left hand between a Mayweather combo that he easily evades and with that Mayweather stopped trying to push Pacquiao back in this rd as he was clearly getting outboxed doing so.
Floyd easy worked manny because manny came forward but cant cut the ring off
Floyd said what he said because those 2-3 good shots manny got in was when Floyd came forward
but for most the fight it was manny unable to cut Floyd off and getting a boxing lesson
Floyd said it before the fight fool. While all the floydboys were predicting Floyd was going to back Pacquiao up and expose him on the inside. Mayweather said Pacquiao is at his most dangerous when you are pushing him back. Why? Because he can fall on his backfoot to make you miss and quickly bounce back to put your ass to sleep. Ask Ricky Hatton.
If what he did to Rios/Margarito/Hoya with the headfakes, fients, stutter stepping back to maintain distance before shooting a counter left and spinning out from the ropes isn’t backfoot fighting, then backfoot fighting doesn’t exist.