Building the Canelo-Plant card.

Yeah I agree. I’m not sure Ruiz is technically skilled enough to box the Reynoso/Canelo style he was trying to implement vs Arreola. I’ll give him time though, maybe we’ll see some improvements in his next fight. Definitley I agree

Thurman said the WBA doesn’t for the Super WBA Champ do mandos. Why would Canelo fight Morrell Jr.? Haymon wouldn’t even waste an offer to stage Canelo vs Morrell Jr. There are better matchups that make sense. Gongora vs Morrell Jr. are entertaining filler cards on their own tbh. But even making that fight brings what monetary gain for a promoter? You are starting way too soon to downplay, and of course play the no "worthy" opponent with Morell. If Morrell beats up ryder, without any controversy. He is ready for bigger challenges. It could be benavidez or whoever wants to step into the plate. And if he pass all the test, the champ needs to defend his belt. Although I seen that champ, give up his belt to avoid ggg.

I could care less about the MAIN EVENT. Like we dont know whose going to win. Wake me when Canelo fights a live dog at 175.

Canelo vs Plant Morrell vs Ryder Boots vs Ugas Martinez vs Arroyo

I think step 1 of the Canelo vs Plant card is removing the Canelo vs Plant fight. Obvious winner and it will be boring. Canelo vs Bieterbiev. Keep chasing greatness, not crap like Plant.

Yeah I can’t see it myself. I love it when the PPV’s have big co mains though. Garcia-Matthysse was a great one for example. Great example. I loved that before the Mayweather vs Canelo fight. Mathysse was flying high back then and full of confidence. I think Danny took what was left of him that night in a great fight, and he just wasn't the same again. Looking back though, I think that night took a lot out of Garcia too. Not to discredit Manny, but the version of Mathysse he beat was nothing compared to the one that stepped in the ring that night. I'm pleased to see Fury vs Wilder 3 undercard is still the same 3 other very interesting HW fights. I like having at least 1 good fight to watch before the main event.

I offered him the Charles Martin fight as a WBC final eliminator, unfortunately he rejected it. Was trying to find him another fight but then popped for D-Bol. :lol1::lol1:

With the amount they are probably paying Canelo and to a lesser degree Plant, I highly doubt they would put Ruiz Jr vs Ortiz on the card, that would be a bigger fight than Ruiz vs Arreola which was inexplicably its own PPV. I wouldn't complain if they did, could be a decent gauge of where Ortiz actually is and would put Ruiz back towards the top of the contenders line. Unfortunately don't think it happens, even less so on an undercard. Yeah I can’t see it myself. I love it when the PPV’s have big co mains though. Garcia-Matthysse was a great one for example.

I thought for sure you'd have Dillian Whyte on your card I offered him the Charles Martin fight as a WBC final eliminator, unfortunately he rejected it. Was trying to find him another fight but then popped for D-Bol.

Was gonna put Benavidez on myself but he fights August 28th. It would actually be a good move if they could somehow move Benavidez vs Uzcategui onto the Canelo undercard. Yeah that would be good. Seeing that Benavidez is out then do the hwt as the semi main, Leo comeback fight, and we need a young guy to open the card.

With the amount they are probably paying Canelo and to a lesser degree Plant, I highly doubt they would put Ruiz Jr vs Ortiz on the card, that would be a bigger fight than Ruiz vs Arreola which was inexplicably its own PPV. I wouldn't complain if they did, could be a decent gauge of where Ortiz actually is and would put Ruiz back towards the top of the contenders line. Unfortunately don't think it happens, even less so on an undercard.

I thought for sure you'd have Dillian Whyte on your card

I agree that Ruiz will improve but even tho Reynoso is good what i believe is not all people can benefit from the same trainer.Personally I saw Ruiz as a better fighter under the training of Manny Robles.What do you think? Yeah I agree. I’m not sure Ruiz is technically skilled enough to box the Reynoso/Canelo style he was trying to implement vs Arreola. I’ll give him time though, maybe we’ll see some improvements in his next fight.

I’d use the undercard to get exposure for a supporting fight to set up the next card. Benavidez v Dirrell. Semi main. Ruiz v Ortiz Leo Santa Cruz v easy return fight. Was gonna put Benavidez on myself but he fights August 28th. It would actually be a good move if they could somehow move Benavidez vs Uzcategui onto the Canelo undercard.

I’d use the undercard to get exposure for a supporting fight to set up the next card. Benavidez v Dirrell. Semi main. Ruiz v Ortiz Leo Santa Cruz v easy return fight.

I’m not sure tbh, Ortiz does rely on timing and that is usually effected with time off and as you say time really isn’t on his side in regards to age. I could see him beating Ruiz though. Ruiz didn’t impress me whatsoever against Arreola, I thought he looked pretty awful actually. He should have showcased himself vs an older, arguably shot Arreola IMO. Reynoso will likely continue developing and improving him though. One of the elite coaches in the sport at the moment. I agree that Ruiz will improve but even tho Reynoso is good what i believe is not all people can benefit from the same trainer.Personally I saw Ruiz as a better fighter under the training of Manny Robles.What do you think?

How do you think Luiz ortiz would perform after that inactivity adn more years of age .I think Ruiz would dust him now I’m not sure tbh, Ortiz does rely on timing and that is usually effected with time off and as you say time really isn’t on his side in regards to age. I could see him beating Ruiz though. Ruiz didn’t impress me whatsoever against Arreola, I thought he looked pretty awful actually. He should have showcased himself vs an older, arguably shot Arreola IMO. Reynoso will likely continue developing and improving him though. One of the elite coaches in the sport at the moment.

What fights would you put on the undercard? If I was matchmaking for PBC, I’d go: Opener: David Morrell Jr vs John Ryder Midcard: Leo Santa Cruz vs Eduardo Ramirez Semi Main: Andy Ruiz Jr vs Luis Ortiz Obviously this would be a pretty expensive and maybe unrealistic undercard but it would cater to the Mexican/Latino market and also provide a showcase for a potential Canelo opponent in the Morrell/Ryder winner. Feel free to post your own card too… How do you think Luiz ortiz would perform after that inactivity adn more years of age .I think Ruiz would dust him now