People on here know I love boxing, watch it religiously, from huge fights to Russian cards on at 4 AM and bar room brawls in the Canadian wilds. But this is really a POS sport. The bullshit and corruption is so obvious and predictable at this point, yet no matter what kind of outrage there is, nothing ever changes. I can't imagine anything will ever change. I hate myself for loving this stupid sport so much, in no other sport does shit like this ever happen in the 21st century, let alone week after week after fucking week. Cocksuckers
agreed 100%. made worse by the fact i stayed up until 5am to watch it and even posted before hand that Castano would win and they would rob him & he could only win if he won 10+clear rounds.
im like an abuse victim, i know whats going to happen but i still watch it.
I'd be fine with draws in close fights if there was some consistency in the scorecards, but it always seems to be two reasonable scorecards and then one blind crackhead scorecard like tonight. We had that in Mayweather-Canelo, Canelo-GGG 1, Fury-Wilder 1, and now this. It just keeps happening over and over and I feel like nothing would be done about it at this point even if something could be done about it
It doesnt suck, it can be great at times, but yeah it has a ton of issues and they are accentuated by there being a major alternative out there nowadays, which wasnt the case for most of its existence.
And for people saying a draw is fair, I saw 4 maybe 5 rounds for Charlo. You'd have to be biased to see 6 and there is simply no argument for more than 6. So in a scenario with 3 judges, no way should 2 of them both have the absolute max 6 rounds for Charlo (which it's very debatable whether you can even find 6 rounds). But not only that, one judge found 9 rounds for Charlo in one of the most awful cards of the decade, while another found 6 and the other found 5 AND gave Charlo a 10-8 rd. Yet, almost all observers had a minimum of 7 rounds for Castano while many had 8 or 9, but not ONE of the "professional" judges gave more than 6 to Castano. Pure and utter horse**** and it happens every ****ing week in this sport
I had Castano winning but even the 10-8 round is acceptable.
Just not the bogus scorecard.
And for people saying a draw is fair, I saw 4 maybe 5 rounds for Charlo. You'd have to be biased to see 6 and there is simply no argument for more than 6. So in a scenario with 3 judges, no way should 2 of them both have the absolute max 6 rounds for Charlo (which it's very debatable whether you can even find 6 rounds). But not only that, one judge found 9 rounds for Charlo in one of the most awful cards of the decade, while another found 6 and the other found 5 AND gave Charlo a 10-8 rd. Yet, almost all observers had a minimum of 7 rounds for Castano while many had 8 or 9, but not ONE of the "professional" judges gave more than 6 to Castano. Pure and utter horse**** and it happens every ****ing week in this sport
Actually 1 judge gave 7 rds to Castano.
A draw was fair. I thought Castaño beat Jermell, but I also thought Lara beat Castaño. Run the fight back.
Nah (unless Lara would somehow benefit)
Judge each fight on it's own merit. That bltch Karma doesn't have a judges license.
I couldn't find 5 rds to give Charlo. This is Bradey Pac 1 all over again.
Boxing has 2 main flaws no other sport has
No open scoring and scoring points are subject to how a judge feels (what style they prefer).
Open scoring....
Let's say this fight had it. The crowd sees one fight, the judges see another. Crowd is STHs wondering WTF....tempers start to build and maybe it's riot time ?
Or the losing fighter steps it up (not depending on whether or not he thinks he's winning) ???
Official score after 6 is you're definitely losing 4-2 or worse (Rightly or wrongly. Open scoring would not make a judge better). The ''losing'' fighter has to change what he's doing and try harder.
Judges and their style biases.....
Like legal judges, they have to be neutral AF. NEVER, EVER score ineffective aggression. Swing and miss, however ''exciting'' they are, still miss. Points should go to the elusive MFer. Do judges score defense/ring gen ?!?!?
Flipside, judges who like smoothies. Avoiding exchanges and pitty patting all night can be a winning recipe (hit and not get hit is the rule of thumb). What if there are 2 smoothies fighting ??? Eventually that judge is going to have to pick which guy has the more effective offense.
Boxing can be fixed but it seems like it doesn't want to be.
And for people saying a draw is fair, I saw 4 maybe 5 rounds for Charlo. You'd have to be biased to see 6 and there is simply no argument for more than 6. So in a scenario with 3 judges, no way should 2 of them both have the absolute max 6 rounds for Charlo (which it's very debatable whether you can even find 6 rounds). But not only that, one judge found 9 rounds for Charlo in one of the most awful cards of the decade, while another found 6 and the other found 5 AND gave Charlo a 10-8 rd. Yet, almost all observers had a minimum of 7 rounds for Castano while many had 8 or 9, but not ONE of the "professional" judges gave more than 6 to Castano. Pure and utter horse**** and it happens every ****ing week in this sport
Facts , this was not a fooking draw ..Charlo's own corner said he was loosing and not losing close they told him he needed a KO come on man ..........
And for people saying a draw is fair, I saw 4 maybe 5 rounds for Charlo. You'd have to be biased to see 6 and there is simply no argument for more than 6. So in a scenario with 3 judges, no way should 2 of them both have the absolute max 6 rounds for Charlo (which it's very debatable whether you can even find 6 rounds). But not only that, one judge found 9 rounds for Charlo in one of the most awful cards of the decade, while another found 6 and the other found 5 AND gave Charlo a 10-8 rd. Yet, almost all observers had a minimum of 7 rounds for Castano while many had 8 or 9, but not ONE of the "professional" judges gave more than 6 to Castano. Pure and utter horseshit and it happens every fucking week in this sport
I'm not getting this. Yes, 117-111 Charlo was garbage, but that's why there are 3 judges and the draw was a fair result, even though, I personally, had Castano edging it, the draw was very plausable. I hate robberies, but I hate people crying robbery for close fights even more.
True but this is a split decision draw with a terribly corrupt scorecard.
if 2 or 3 of the judges had scored this a draw on this individual cards and we got a draw, cool.
but this type of draw is terrible for the sport, for fans, and makes Nelson Vazquez, pbc, and sho look extremely bad and takes away from a great night of fights.
"The draw wasn't what I wanted to hear," Charlo said."I thought I won this fight ... Brian Castano is a tough warrior."
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Bro, your corner told you you needed a knockout !
Stop crying. A draw was fair.
you complete bum dosser. the point was that one judge clearly was told to favour one of the fighters, youre happy with corruption?
It's almost like being in love with some gold digging whore who keeps cheating on you at this point.
Precisely, I feel like I married the girl that kept cheating on me when we were dating, thinking she'd change her ways with a ring, like a fool, but she just keeps heading over to some other guys place every weekend and she doesn't even bother sneaking out anymore, just walks right out in front of my face. She sucks, but I'm the damn fool for sticking with her
It's almost like being in love with some gold digging whore who keeps cheating on you at this point.
Those are the ones that let you do all the disgusting things you'd ever want.
No wonder I always come back...
People on here know I love boxing, watch it religiously, from huge fights to Russian cards on at 4 AM and bar room brawls in the Canadian wilds. But this is really a POS sport. The bull**** and corruption is so obvious and predictable at this point, yet no matter what kind of outrage there is, nothing ever changes. I can't imagine anything will ever change. I hate myself for loving this stupid sport so much, in no other sport does **** like this ever happen in the 21st century, let alone week after week after ****ing week. Cocksuckers
I don’t think the sport sucks, but the corruption does . The Nelson Vazquez and Adelaide Byrds of the sport are killing its credibility.
I'm not getting this. Yes, 117-111 Charlo was garbage, but that's why there are 3 judges and the draw was a fair result, even though, I personally, had Castano edging it, the draw was very plausable. I hate robberies, but I hate people crying robbery for close fights even more.