Donaire vs Casimero: Is This Considered a Duck in Your Mind?

I don't think Donaire is afraid of anyone... Except his wife.

https://youtu.be/B5zDKbloiT8 this was on YouTube within the last 20 hours. Is the fight still salvageable??

#2 guy in the division not wanting to fight the #3 guy in the division 2 champions 2 multiple weight and multiple title champions Both from the same country Huge filipino interest Huge filipino boxing fanbase to draw from Huge TV coverage in the Philippines not gonna happen because someone insulted someone's wife? "You insulted my wife! I'm not gonna fight you!" Say what? sounds like a duck by a chicken to me that's the thing!!! i believe donaire doesnt wanna take that risk of losing to another pinoy.. a native pinoy not one that was born or moved to the US and became an american.. as dumb as this sounds, there's some truth to it. american born filipinos feel more superior to the ones back home and vice versa.

#2 guy in the division not wanting to fight the #3 guy in the division 2 champions 2 multiple weight and multiple title champions Both from the same country Huge filipino interest Huge filipino boxing fanbase to draw from Huge TV coverage in the Philippines not gonna happen because someone insulted someone's wife? "You insulted my wife! I'm not gonna fight you!" Say what? sounds like a duck by a chicken to me

Bad part about this is I really wanted to see if the Casimero dude was clean by passing a VADA test , speaking of VADA , Loma did not do VADA for his last fight and well Tank has never done one tank is a juicer!!

Bad part about this is I really wanted to see if the Casimero dude was clean by passing a VADA test , speaking of VADA , Loma did not do VADA for his last fight and well Tank has never done one

"no rematch for manny because he's a sore loser"... this is all floyd!!! but yall werent dissing floyd when he did it..

"no test or no fight"... "have to leave arum".... "i will never do business with bob arum"... this is all floyd!! but yall were praising floyd for that so why yall dissing donaire for doing the same thing??

Over the last year, Cassimero (and Sean Gibbons) have lost fights with Inoue, Donaire and Rigondeaux. And the Pinoy's want us to believe that all three of them (two of whom are already first ballot HOFers) are ducking him. Hilarious. Lost fight with Rigondeaux? Didn't lose that fight at all. Inoue? Arum himself said that fight didn't happen due to Covid. But any shots at Gibbons is good with me. That man is definitely not all the way there.

Over the last year, Cassimero (and Sean Gibbons) have lost fights with Inoue, Donaire and Rigondeaux. And the Pinoy's want us to believe that all three of them (two of whom are already first ballot HOFers) are ducking him. Hilarious.

I'm a donaire fan but he was just scared from casimero. Casimero told him that he will be an easy work for him and that makes donaire suddenly change his mind.

Nope the fight was cancelled. They missed the deadline. Before they missed the deadline they either lied, or they didn’t know the difference in the testing. When they were being corrected by a female they shat on her. When they finally realised their error the deadline had passed. They then made that call to Nonito, who told them to apologise to his wife/manager because they got it wrong. This are the information that some people didn’t know, they just join a bandwagon and claim Nonito was scared Am delighted he cancel the fight because that Sean gibbons guy is a cancer, and for me Casemiro was probably on the juice, I followed this whole thing from the beginning, they were being begged to fill their forms, TEAM NONITO even offered to pay for the more stringent test which was VADA 247… But they play dumb. That guy was on the juice. They tried to use insult and dumb boxing fans with the “Nonito was scared BS” but not all of us fell for their BS. You can't "cancel" a fight and then say apologize and the fight is back on!!!! Then in that case the fight was never canceled. And if it was canceled, then Stephen Espinoza sure didn't get word of that. And I don't think many, if any think Donaire is scared of ANYONE. If they say that, they are in the minority. But for one reason or another, they were making stipulations for the fight to continue. As for the drug testing? Fair play, but why not negotiate that before the contracts are actually signed? They could have had Casimero enrolled a while ago and then we wouldn't have had this issue. If Casimero or his team refused to do so? Then no fight!

Sure, and that is perfectly fine if they canceled the fight because Team Casimero didn't submit their forms when Rachel wanted them to. But then when you say the fight would have been back on if they apologized, then the fight was truly never canceled, right? They were just trying to pressure Team Casimero to enroll in the VADA program....And they succeeded. After they enrolled, they brought up the stipulation of them having to apologize or they will not fight. And then this morning or last night is when Nonito made it official and said the fight is off. But that was not the case this weekend when Team Casimero had enrolled in the VADA program on the 26th. It is clear to me at least that the testing had very little to canceling the fight. They got what they wanted there and took it a step further. Maybe they got word in what they would get offered for the Inoue rematch and wanted to take that fight instead. Nope the fight was cancelled. They missed the deadline. Before they missed the deadline they either lied, or they didn’t know the difference in the testing. When they were being corrected by a female they shat on her. When they finally realised their error the deadline had passed. They then made that call to Nonito, who told them to apologise to his wife/manager because they got it wrong. This are the information that some people didn’t know, they just join a bandwagon and claim Nonito was scared Am delighted he cancel the fight because that Sean gibbons guy is a cancer, and for me Casemiro was probably on the juice, I followed this whole thing from the beginning, they were being begged to fill their forms, TEAM NONITO even offered to pay for the more stringent test which was VADA 247… But they play dumb. That guy was on the juice. They tried to use insult and dumb boxing fans with the “Nonito was scared BS” but not all of us fell for their BS.

Simple the fight is cancelled, they had a deadline. That passed and Team Casimero admitted to the error as they thought the WBC CBP was VADA, after they were told by Nonito manager many times that it was TWO separate thing, VADA is 247, CBP is a lesser version of it. They proceed to throw insults “The typical dumb ones” because the manager was female. Nonito was like “Apologies” because you hurt my manager/wife, she was right all along and your guys try to s hit on her. If they had apologised then the fight would have been back on. Pretty simple. When Shelley Finkel was called Winkle we had the same people here crying that Hearn called him winkle and that how can they expect a fight to be made… No one said Wilder was scared, but when it happens to a female it’s the typical dumb crap…. Sure, and that is perfectly fine if they canceled the fight because Team Casimero didn't submit their forms when Rachel wanted them to. But then when you say the fight would have been back on if they apologized, then the fight was truly never canceled, right? They were just trying to pressure Team Casimero to enroll in the VADA program....And they succeeded. After they enrolled, they brought up the stipulation of them having to apologize or they will not fight. And then this morning or last night is when Nonito made it official and said the fight is off. But that was not the case this weekend when Team Casimero had enrolled in the VADA program on the 26th. It is clear to me at least that the testing had very little to canceling the fight. They got what they wanted there and took it a step further. Maybe they got word in what they would get offered for the Inoue rematch and wanted to take that fight instead.

Because even after they "canceled" the fight, Espinoza and everyone said the fight was still on.....VADA welcomed them to the program...And then this happens: https://twitter.com/julianisjulius/status/1409563762378543105?s=20 They demand a public apology. If the fight was already canceled due to not turning in the VADA forms, why would Casimero need to apologize? Then you had Donaire and someone from Casimero's team go back and forth for 50 minutes. Again, if the fight is canceled, what was the point of that? If they wanted to stand strong on Casimero entering the VADA program late? Cool, but that clearly wasn't what happened. Simple the fight is cancelled, they had a deadline. That passed and Team Casimero admitted to the error as they thought the WBC CBP was VADA, after they were told by Nonito manager many times that it was TWO separate thing, VADA is 247, CBP is a lesser version of it. They proceed to throw insults “The typical dumb ones” because the manager was female. Nonito was like “Apologies” because you hurt my manager/wife, she was right all along and your guys try to s hit on her. If they had apologised then the fight would have been back on. Pretty simple. When Shelley Finkel was called Winkle we had the same people here crying that Hearn called him winkle and that how can they expect a fight to be made… No one said Wilder was scared, but when it happens to a female it’s the typical dumb crap….

People claim duck, yet he's shooting to fight Inoue again, which doesn't indicate a duck to me. I agree the whole thing could have been handled better and it's best to handle it in the ring, but telling Casimero to fuck off and instead going to fighter Naoya isn't necessarily the best time to say someone's ducking. The blame should be on Casimero; holding off on submitting to testing should be suspicious to anyone.

So if you saw the timeline why did you leave out the cancellation of the fight bit? Because you seems to know that they on handled the forms in AFTER the fight was cancelled. This was AFTER lying that they already handed the forms in on the 23rd of June. The question from boxing fans should be directed at Casemiro, what was he hiding? Was he on PED? I mean if he was Fury for example then we would have 1000s of threads claiming he was already juiced up. But for whatever reason fans wasn’t the change the narrative here like Nonito was scared! Because even after they "canceled" the fight, Espinoza and everyone said the fight was still on.....VADA welcomed them to the program...And then this happens: https://twitter.com/julianisjulius/status/1409563762378543105?s=20 They demand a public apology. If the fight was already canceled due to not turning in the VADA forms, why would Casimero need to apologize? Then you had Donaire and someone from Casimero's team go back and forth for 50 minutes. Again, if the fight is canceled, what was the point of that? If they wanted to stand strong on Casimero entering the VADA program late? Cool, but that clearly wasn't what happened.

I've seen the timeline and when the Donaire's went on a rant about canceling the fight, Casimero had enrolled in the program. Then the Donaire's wanted an apology and Goodman said she was suspending the testing since there was no fight date because Rachel Donaire had "canceled" the fight. So if you saw the timeline why did you leave out the cancellation of the fight bit? Because you seems to know that they on handled the forms in AFTER the fight was cancelled. This was AFTER lying that they already handed the forms in on the 23rd of June. The question from boxing fans should be directed at Casemiro, what was he hiding? Was he on PED? I mean if he was Fury for example then we would have 1000s of threads claiming he was already juiced up. But for whatever reason fans wasn’t the change the narrative here like Nonito was scared!

Did you see the time line and the email from VADA’ Margaret Goodman? They did finally send in the paperwork after the fight was cancelled. The goodman confirmation was AFTER the fight had been cancelled. They claimed they had submit the paperwork, goodman claimed they haven’t, sulieman then tried to input himself but sending her a WhatsApp form, which she insist needs to be in an email form. So no it wasn’t just about the apology, it was after the deadline as been missed that Nonito said apologies to my wife because they lied. I've seen the timeline and when the Donaire's went on a rant about canceling the fight, Casimero had enrolled in the program. Then the Donaire's wanted an apology and Goodman said she was suspending the testing since there was no fight date because Rachel Donaire had "canceled" the fight.

Seems boxing fans don’t care about a guy who claimed he was enrolled for testing but wasn’t. Then proceed to abuse the other boxers wife who also happened to be the manager. Then they are claiming the boxer was “scared” because he has enough morals to stand by his manager/wife. If this was a more prominent manager or advisor the same fans would be licking his a*s. Shame on you