I am saying Loma dropped the belt rather than fight him. That is a fact you can’t change.
I didn’t say he was scared. I posted he clearly was worried a loss would mean no Teo payday. Why do I say that?
Because when the mando was the easy Crolla, he made the mando and dusted him off. But when it was Haney he dropped belt and sat out a year, another fact you can’t change.
Revisionist history by a black man with his own racist agenda.
Let's see. How clear was the WBC franchise designation? It wasn't.
Lomachenko didn't know that by accepting the "Franchise" title he would be stripped of the WBC title.
But someone like you with your own racist agenda can't accept that. Even you dont understand that stupid designation and neither do I.
Franchise champion was supposed to be non transferred and designated as a superior title than the super title. Superior means its better. Don't you know that Mr. BLACK SUPREMIST?
And oh, Lomachenko just decided to sit a year? Or did he injure his hand? Oh yeah, funny how you forget to mention THAT.
AND NO TEO PAYDAY?
Lomachenko has been the MAN at 135 and had made more money for his fights than the likes of Devin Haney or any other contender who isn't Teofimo Lopez.
Tell me buddy. What's Devin Haneys biggest payday?
AND unlike people like you Loma doesnt use money as a measuring stick for his success. GOD FORBID you use other men's money as a measuring stick for YOUR OWN SUCESS. FUCNINGOSERS LMAO
you like to talk about facts do ya?
fact: loma already said he was fighting the commey-lopez winner before haney became mandatory. check the dates.
Sep 12, 2019 Loma's desire is to wait unless there is a big offer to fight this year in which case we will take a fight this year. Otherwise he is going to wait for the winner of that fight(commey-lopez)
Sep 14, 2019 Devin Haney becomes mandatory challenger for Vasyl ... - BBC
you see what happens when you have the facts? you can form rational conclusions as to why the fight didnt happen. oh he's waiting for that big fight against the #1 guy. of course! makes perfect sense, but he even threw in the caveat that he would be willing to take another big fight if the right offer came. did haney make any offers at all to loma? lets check the facts shall we?
fact: haney made no offers to loma.
so how was this fight supposed to happen? how does haney yelling from across the world FIGHT ME but then making no offers make the fight happen? what did dazn run out of money suddenly? it was all marketing and you fell for it. while loma fought the top guys this little unproven guy kept using lomas name to prop himself up but the fact is loma already had plans and the fact is haney made no offers to change those plans.
and since we are still talking about facts its not a fact he dropped the belt.
fact: Lomachenko upgraded to WBC Franchise lightweight champion
Oct 12, 2020 Sulaiman: Lomachenko Is The WBC Lightweight Champion
"He was named Franchise and he could go ahead and make this fight with Teofimo Lopez.” -Sulaiman
now you have the facts. i expect that you will adjust your agenda accordingly.
2 days. Yeah daggum anyone with an ounce of common sense can see this was a defensive maneuver to justify the plan to drop the belt and be made emeritus champ figuring Haney would win.
When the mando was an easy fight, he made it. When it was a more difficult one, he dropped the belt and waited.
when Rafael posted the story Loma lied at first and then had to backtrack because Dan had the facts right.
stop defending the BS move and the wbc working with Bob to protect a TR fight and call Loma out.
I am saying Loma dropped the belt rather than fight him. That is a fact you can’t change.
I didn’t say he was scared. I posted he clearly was worried a loss would mean no Teo payday. Why do I say that?
Because when the mando was the easy Crolla, he made the mando and dusted him off. But when it was Haney he dropped belt and sat out a year, another fact you can’t change.
you like to talk about facts do ya?
fact: loma already said he was fighting the commey-lopez winner before haney became mandatory. check the dates.
Sep 12, 2019 Loma's desire is to wait unless there is a big offer to fight this year in which case we will take a fight this year. Otherwise he is going to wait for the winner of that fight(commey-lopez)
Sep 14, 2019 Devin Haney becomes mandatory challenger for Vasyl ... - BBC
you see what happens when you have the facts? you can form rational conclusions as to why the fight didnt happen. oh he's waiting for that big fight against the #1 guy. of course! makes perfect sense, but he even threw in the caveat that he would be willing to take another big fight if the right offer came. did haney make any offers at all to loma? lets check the facts shall we?
fact: haney made no offers to loma.
so how was this fight supposed to happen? how does haney yelling from across the world FIGHT ME but then making no offers make the fight happen? what did dazn run out of money suddenly? it was all marketing and you fell for it. while loma fought the top guys this little unproven guy kept using lomas name to prop himself up but the fact is loma already had plans and the fact is haney made no offers to change those plans.
and since we are still talking about facts its not a fact he dropped the belt.
fact: Lomachenko upgraded to WBC Franchise lightweight champion
Oct 12, 2020 Sulaiman: Lomachenko Is The WBC Lightweight Champion
"He was named Franchise and he could go ahead and make this fight with Teofimo Lopez.” -Sulaiman
now you have the facts. i expect that you will adjust your agenda accordingly.
The only posters how mention that I love Loma because he's white are black racist posters like yourself.
I support Loma because he's a great talent and I love his style. Dude is a straight up killer. Compare that to a piece of **** like you who supports fighters because they share the same skin color as you.
Oh. What has Devin Haney done? How about Tank Davis? Andrade? All your ****ing boogeyman lmfao.
The most lucrative fight for Teo is Tank?
Let me ask, what division is Tank fighting in and what did he do to earn that shot? Ah, don't even answer. Are you so pathetic you can't see your own ****ing BIAS?
Tank doesn't even fight at 135 because just like you he's a little ***** who's more bite than he is bark. Tank doesn't even want any PART of Lopez and Lopez ain't even tha good! Tank didn't even have half the balls Lopez had because he literally didn't even believe in himself! Lmfao. There's no denying his talent but don't brag that you are the best when you've fought NOBODY to prove it.
But Tank the most lucrative because you're black and you say so because you need to believe a black man is the biggest draw lmfao.
Oh, Lomachenko is so afraid of Devin Haney but has fought many guys just as good if not better than him. You wanna talk about coward? How about not fighting for that title instead demanding he get it through an EMAIL.
Then cailing everyone a duck just to fight against Gamboa coming off an Achilles tear and a loss and not looking good at all.
Tell me who that dude has fought again?
You're telling me Loma gonna be afraid of a guy who has softer pillowfists than himself? Lmfao.
Look at you trying so hard to live though these young black kids. You really miss the glory days don't you when a black guy was the best fighter in the world so you could ride his coat tails right?
Some of us aren't as pathetic as you and don't have the same victim mentality. The best part is you can't even cry racist because I'm not white am I?
Take away your race card and what are you? A dumb ass racist piece of **** who's a true coward hiding being his lies.
I am saying Loma dropped the belt rather than fight him. That is a fact you can’t change.
I didn’t say he was scared. I posted he clearly was worried a loss would mean no Teo payday. Why do I say that?
Because when the mando was the easy Crolla, he made the mando and dusted him off. But when it was Haney he dropped belt and sat out a year, another fact you can’t change.
The most lucrative fight in the division is Tank, not Loma.
I see Loma as a great fighter and have ranked him as such. You only support him because he is white and I am not the only poster that had mentioned that. He’s your white hope, not everyone’s.
The only thing that triggered me was cowardly giving up the belt and the emeritus/franchise BS.
The only posters how mention that I love Loma because he's white are black racist posters like yourself.
I support Loma because he's a great talent and I love his style. Dude is a straight up killer. Compare that to a piece of shit like you who supports fighters because they share the same skin color as you.
Oh. What has Devin Haney done? How about Tank Davis? Andrade? All your fucking boogeyman lmfao.
The most lucrative fight for Teo is Tank?
Let me ask, what division is Tank fighting in and what did he do to earn that shot? Ah, don't even answer. Are you so pathetic you can't see your own fucking BIAS?
Tank doesn't even fight at 135 because just like you he's a little bitch who's more bite than he is bark. Tank doesn't even want any PART of Lopez and Lopez ain't even tha good! Tank didn't even have half the balls Lopez had because he literally didn't even believe in himself! Lmfao. There's no denying his talent but don't brag that you are the best when you've fought NOBODY to prove it.
But Tank the most lucrative because you're black and you say so because you need to believe a black man is the biggest draw lmfao.
Oh, Lomachenko is so afraid of Devin Haney but has fought many guys just as good if not better than him. You wanna talk about coward? How about not fighting for that title instead demanding he get it through an EMAIL.
Then cailing everyone a duck just to fight against Gamboa coming off an Achilles tear and a loss and not looking good at all.
Tell me who that dude has fought again?
You're telling me Loma gonna be afraid of a guy who has softer pillowfists than himself? Lmfao.
Look at you trying so hard to live though these young black kids. You really miss the glory days don't you when a black guy was the best fighter in the world so you could ride his coat tails right?
Some of us aren't as pathetic as you and don't have the same victim mentality. The best part is you can't even cry racist because I'm not white am I?
Take away your race card and what are you? A dumb ass racist piece of shit who's a true coward hiding being his lies.
True but I've seen nothing so far to indicate Tank will do more than talk about such a fight. That would be a great fight though.
Don’t disagree. Actually Tank has pretty much made clear he isn’t going to mention anyone specifically.
The most lucrative fight in the division is Tank, not Loma.
I see Loma as a great fighter and have ranked him as such. You only support him because he is white and I am not the only poster that had mentioned that. He’s your white hope, not everyone’s.
The only thing that triggered me was cowardly giving up the belt and the emeritus/franchise BS.
True but I've seen nothing so far to indicate Tank will do more than talk about such a fight. That would be a great fight though.
Anyone with a good set of eyes saw the fight as competitive despite what was read on the official score cards. And God that commentary.
Yes, Lopez did win, but the margin was not nearly as wide as the official score cards suggested and he mainly won the rounds he did because Lomachenko didn't engage.
Compare the rounds Lopez won compared to Lomachenko. Lopez "won" rounds by being the aggressor and landing less than 5 more punches in every round he won. Now compare this to the **** show that was Mayweather vs Logan Paul. Logan just laying and throwing punches to deter Floyd but barely landed anything clean and these same dudes who claim Lopez was so dominant despite him doing the exact same thing!
When Lomachenko did go off? He landed almost at will. The saying in boxing goes, whoever did better in the back half will most likely win the rematch.
Well, Lopez wants big money and the biggest money fight for him is STILL Lomachenko and its odd that he doesn't want it because he's certain that he'd knock Loma out despite Loma still wanting it. And it's an easy in house fight to make too!
This is one if the things I hate about boxing most. Yall so ****ing confident in yourself and you think it's such easy money then take the fight. It makes the most sense legacy and money wise but nooooooo. Only beta cuck men support people like this because it's nothing more than a projection of themselves.
I love it though because it triggers all the PBC/Black supremist like TheBigDunn because they've all all see Lomachenko as white peoples "great white hope" despite the fact he's just a great boxing talent.
If Loma gets body bagged by Nakatani then it means nothing. Teofimo was still the only dude who had the balls to step up to the plate unlike all these other pretenders and win. Styles makes fights and despite maybe being fringe world level Nakatani posses the physical tools to give Lomachenko a tough fight.
The most lucrative fight in the division is Tank, not Loma.
I see Loma as a great fighter and have ranked him as such. You only support him because he is white and I am not the only poster that had mentioned that. He’s your white hope, not everyone’s.
The only thing that triggered me was cowardly giving up the belt and the emeritus/franchise BS.
You misunderstand me. I'm not concerned with the rematch clause or lack thereof. My main concern is with Loma's shoulder. I think if Loma loses to Nakatani, as was the premise behind this thread, it would likely be the result of having limited use of his right hand. I think Lopez gives him the rematch even without the rematch clause but if Loma loses that might be a wrap for his career.
Ok got it.
Well he will still be the unified champion, so i doubt he'll care.
Right, if Loma loses then Teo moves up to 140 and fights Taylor. Two champs squaring off would be huge. Only a few hundred people on the internet care about this other stuff.
How exactly is Teo lucky Loma didn’t put a rematch clause in their fight? Isn’t that just a poor job by Loma and his team?
You misunderstand me. I'm not concerned with the rematch clause or lack thereof. My main concern is with Loma's shoulder. I think if Loma loses to Nakatani, as was the premise behind this thread, it would likely be the result of having limited use of his right hand. I think Lopez gives him the rematch even without the rematch clause but if Loma loses that might be a wrap for his career.
Anyone with a good set of eyes saw the fight as competitive despite what was read on the official score cards. And God that commentary.
Yes, Lopez did win, but the margin was not nearly as wide as the official score cards suggested and he mainly won the rounds he did because Lomachenko didn't engage.
Compare the rounds Lopez won compared to Lomachenko. Lopez "won" rounds by being the aggressor and landing less than 5 more punches in every round he won. Now compare this to the shit show that was Mayweather vs Logan Paul. Logan just laying and throwing punches to deter Floyd but barely landed anything clean and these same dudes who claim Lopez was so dominant despite him doing the exact same thing!
When Lomachenko did go off? He landed almost at will. The saying in boxing goes, whoever did better in the back half will most likely win the rematch.
Well, Lopez wants big money and the biggest money fight for him is STILL Lomachenko and its odd that he doesn't want it because he's certain that he'd knock Loma out despite Loma still wanting it. And it's an easy in house fight to make too!
This is one if the things I hate about boxing most. Yall so fucking confident in yourself and you think it's such easy money then take the fight. It makes the most sense legacy and money wise but nooooooo. Only beta cuck men support people like this because it's nothing more than a projection of themselves.
I love it though because it triggers all the PBC/Black supremist like TheBigDunn because they've all all see Lomachenko as white peoples "great white hope" despite the fact he's just a great boxing talent.
If Loma gets body bagged by Nakatani then it means nothing. Teofimo was still the only dude who had the balls to step up to the plate unlike all these other pretenders and win. Styles makes fights and despite maybe being fringe world level Nakatani posses the physical tools to give Lomachenko a tough fight.
Lucky. Lucky he hasn’t got to rematch a fighter who if he isn’t injured, almost certainly defeats him in a rematch.
Lopez is a good fighter in an exciting division. He doesn’t need the rematch, plenty of other good winnable fights.
How exactly is Teo lucky Loma didn’t put a rematch clause in their fight? Isn’t that just a poor job by Loma and his team?
I don’t think Loma matters to Teo one bit. He beat him already. Loma wins or loses Teo should fight Haney next. If not Haney, you can see from his comments he would go after Tank.
Lucky. Lucky he hasn’t got to rematch a fighter who if he isn’t injured, almost certainly defeats him in a rematch.
Lopez is a good fighter in an exciting division. He doesn’t need the rematch, plenty of other good winnable fights.