I criticize Pac a lot, but he has some pretty great wins. I had to think about it too. What are yours?
1. Marco Antonio Barrera 1. He was coming off a great streak over the likes of Morales and Hamed, and even though he had a lot of miles and may have been slightly past it, he was still great as he was able to later beat Morales in their rubber match. That Morales would later hand Pac an L. Definitely the best win of Pac's career imo.
2. Juan Manuel Marquez 1. Absolute robbery. Judge fucked over Pac. And yeah Marquez may have won a good stretch of rounds but not enough to warrant a draw, the fact that some people think Marquez should've won is absolutely nuts.
3. Keith Thurman. Definitely the best win in Pac's 147 career imo. Thurman may have had a long lay-off and injuries, but other than the 1 round with Lopez, he actually dominated the fight. He was still good. That decision should have been unanimous imo.
4. Ledwaba. Pretty good fighter in his prime, Pac absolutely destroyed him. I think he was an underdog too.
5. Clottey. He was pretty good I guess.
I struggled with the last 2, honestly.
I couldn't say Hatton because he was washed at that point. Same with De La Hoya, Morales, Margarito, Mosley, and a couple others. But he does have some great wins.
always been curious as to how anyone could end up with a draw in the 1st jmm fight.
its not even mathematically possible with 3 knockdowns. no surprise that the people i see having scored it a draw are mostly clueless and have no idea how to score a fight.
the fact that the judge even publicly acknowledged his error is in my opinion sufficient grounds to have the result retroactively changed to a win for manny.
the 115-110 scorecard for JMM has to be one of the worst i've ever seen.
After the 1st round
Jmm got the benefit of the doubt for every close round
"Oh pac is not dropping/hurting him, jmm must be winning"
always been curious as to how anyone could end up with a draw in the 1st jmm fight.
its not even mathematically possible with 3 knockdowns. no surprise that the people i see having scored it a draw are mostly clueless and have no idea how to score a fight.
the fact that the judge even publicly acknowledged his error is in my opinion sufficient grounds to have the result retroactively changed to a win for manny.
the 115-110 scorecard for JMM has to be one of the worst i've ever seen.
JMM 1 was a robbery in every way possible.
Agreed.
Jmm 1 was a robbery.
That 1 judge didn't score Pac's 3 kd round properly.
That error in scoring let jmm escape without a loss. bs draw. Should have been a pac w.
100 percent false. They all ducked marquez ar 126
Marquez was both offered Barrera and morales fights. He turned them down.
Remember when Pacquiao fought Morales the 1st time?
That was offered to Marquez first. He turned morales down..
Marquez overprices himself then cries ppl ducked him..
Remember when Juan maricon was crying about a pac rematch after pac-jmm1 draw?
Hbo offered pac and jmm an immediate fight. Pac accepted the immediate rematch. Juan maricon turned it down complaining about money when he and pac was getting paid 50-50.
Jmm ducked prime morales, prime Barrera and initially pac rematch.
Morales was coming off a loss to Zahir, and he was weight drained. Morales a true G but Pac never beat him at his best. Cotto was drained and left the division after. Why did you put JMM 2 over JMM 1? I thought JMM 2 was a lot more close, and the first meeting was more important because they were closest at their prime.
Jmm 1 was a draw.
I saw the ledwaba fight. It was pretty amazing.
Marquez was an amazing fighter also.
What he did to poor Cotto he should of been prosecuted for. LOL
Thats about it for me. Delahoya and Mosely were FAR PAST their primes to even mention.
HOW Mayweather dealt with Pac was AMAZING too. I’m talking how he nullified his UNSTOPPABLE attacks.
Facts are only ''irrelevant'' to the people who don't benefit from them :lol1:
Always chasing greatness and taking risks -
Cotto*
Hatton
Diaz
Larios
Algieri
Vargas
HORN
Bradley 3x ( https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/core/images/smilies/custom/laugh1.gif )
Shot Rios
Shot Mosley
Shot DLH*
Shot Margarito*
Shot Broner
Shot Lucas
thinks his opinion is facts
Oh my
Tries so hard
So sad
Marquez beat Pac 4-0. My sig is worthy of respect. Nash out.
Maybe
But all i know is jmm ducked Barrera and morales in their primes
Juan maricon marquez
Stop quoting that guy. I don’t want to see his stupid. Deliberately omitting names in yet another one of the many, arbitrarily invented conditions by the femboys. I don’t see how Maidana and Canelo are coming off stoppages but not Cotto and Rios. Missing Bradley, Horn and Sasakul at least. And who the fuk is Sosa, might aswell mentioned Solis and Valesquez etc, probably much better fighter’s to be honest.
What a joke. Counting stoppages from a year, 2 years prior when it suits his agenda.
Tell me what your idea is of a legit Pac opponent between Morales and Thurman
Well put.
Yeah, Pac is a likeable character and is fun to watch. That resume, though !!!!
Pac fans have to go way back to find a credible win (prior to Thurman).
Stop quoting that guy. I don’t want to see his stupid. Deliberately omitting names in yet another one of the many, arbitrarily invented conditions by the femboys. I don’t see how Maidana and Canelo are coming off stoppages but not Cotto and Rios. Missing Bradley, Horn and Sasakul at least. And who the fuk is Sosa, might aswell mentioned Solis and Valesquez etc, probably much better fighter’s to be honest.
What a joke. Counting stoppages from a year, 2 years prior when it suits his agenda.
He gets favorable opinions on his ATG status due to his attitude and great personality. All these fighters Pacquiao faced were coming off a loss or being KO Morales, Barrera2, Clottey, Mosley, Rios, Broner, Larios. Floyd only fought 2 fighters coming off a loss. Judah and Corley. Pacquiao only faced 5 guys who were coming off a KO win. It’s no way a sane person can have Pacquiao ahead of Floyd due to skills.
Notable Opponents coming off KO/TKO win
Mayweather
Corrales
Canelo
Berto
Madaina
Cotto
Mosley
Marquez
Hatton
De La Hoya
Baldomir
Gatti
Sosa
Castillo (TKO Juan Macias prior to facing Floyd)
Castillo (KO Verdell Smith prior to rematch)
Pacquiao
Barrera
Hatton
Vargas
Matthysse
Marquez 3
Well put.
Yeah, Pac is a likeable character and is fun to watch. That resume, though !!!!
Pac fans have to go way back to find a credible win (prior to Thurman).