What does it mean to be a champion in boxing today?

Most of the time it just means you were able to beat a journeyman for a vacant belt now a days. You really aren't legit legit unless you have unified in my book.

All this because Loma dropped the belt rather than fight Haney. You keep bringing up race rather than call Loma out for his actions. Ive been a boxing fan for close to 40 years. Never have I claimed Haney was the best or a boogeyman. I never bragged about any title he owned. But it’s obvious what your deal is. When canelo did this to ggg, you had an issue. When Loma did it to Haney you have no issue. Yes, Haney should treat Loma the same way Loma treated him. Not because Loma was mean to him, but because Loma has no title and isn’t the most lucrative fight- the same reasons you cited for Loma not fighting him. Loma’s actions shouldn’t be rewarded. Haney should get the Teo fight next after Kambosis, assuming he wins. Loma, if he beats Nakatani can wait until after Haney makes an optional defense. But all your garbage tells us what the real deal here is - your white hope in Loma gave away his belt like a coward, lost to Teo, was too stupid to have a rematch clause, and now has to work his way back and you want him to jump to the front of the line. Nope. WHITE HOPE Yeahhhhh buddy. An ASIAN GUY needs a WHITE HOPE to feel good about myself lmfaoooooooooooo Sorry old man. Kids these days aren't as pathetic as people like you. Pathetic trash like you created verbiage like that just so you could feel better about yourself and still don't understand how you make all of your own people look like fucking garbage when words like that come out of your mouth. why don't you let your racist ass side out like you have in the past and tell me that I should go serve my white Masters? You've done it plenty no harm in doing it again right? Oh I'm black people are so mean to meeeeeeee. You wanna know who the biggest perp of crime on Asian people is? BLACKS So when it comes to racism shut your fucking mouth. Oh, you're so smart with your segregated hood schooling that you think 2021 is the same as fucking 1960. Oh, Lomachenko isn't even the biggest fight but he's willing to fight Haney and the only fight bigger would be against Teofimo Lopez. Omg. I must be a black hater and racist because those two guys aren't black! I must love then white and Latinos SOOOOO MUCH MORE THEN THEM BLACKS RIGHT? how does it feel big Dunn to live such a miserable pathetic existence? HONEST QUESTION You must them Floyd days where you could feel SOOOO good about being black because Floyd is black and he was the best, therefore you were the best? What a fucking loser you are lmfao.

Guys like you act like you're so brilliant and that people can't see straight through your bull****. Why did I bring up Tank? Oh, he's one of your great black hope's isn't he? Thats the ****ing stupid game people like you play. Devin Haney is no ****ing different. People like you have been working so hard hard find then instead of just ****ing enjoying boxing. Loma doesn't have his stripes? Dude was unified at 126 and 130lbs being a multiple multiple class world champion and has what, 13 world champion ship bouts under his belt? Compare that to Devin Haney. Who's Devin Haney? Who did Devin Haney win his belt from against? Tell me WHOOOOO. LMFAO. You actually think you have a ****ing argument which is ****ing hilarious! And oh? You think that Devin Haney is gonna sign up to fight Teofimo Lopez? PLEASE DO! I'd love to see that fight Unlike you who only loves to talk about it. And if he doesn't get get fight OH NO, HE SHOULD JUST NOT FIGHT LOMA BECAUSE LOMA HURT HIS FEELINGS. Laugh my ****ing ass off ducking the top two guys at 135 Also, maybe you should take a look into your revisionist history of the WBC Franchise title. Lomachenko was under the impression that the WBC franchise title was a non title but instead a label. He did not know he would be stripped. Even NOW THERE is confusion and the WBC has NOT clarified it. I thought franchise champion was a title you couldn't lose very? But now it is? You don't even ****ing know yourself but oh, you think your bias doesn't show Big Dunn? AND yet you BRAG so much about how Devin Haney emailed for his championship instead of fought for it. OH YEAH, that is someone you should be afraid of. Some who wouldn't even fight for it, but emailed for it instead. That's SO laughable lmao. And dude. Don't even compare this to Canelo vs GGG. By using that as a comparison you clearly show you have no idea what you're talking about because the comparison isn't even close. SO YOURE TELLING ME DEVIN HANEY IS CANELO RIGHT? LMFAO. There is no comparison between the two. And dude, QUIT WITH THE, IF IT WAS THE OTHER WAY AROUND excuses. If it was the other way around Devin Haney would be fighting the guys he should instead of not fighting them and calling everyone a duck instead. If it was the other way around Devin Haney would be working to get the fights he wants instead of fighting no one. Lomachenko won 3 world titles at 135 and promoters didn't stop him. And honestly, it's quite amusing how you pretend he "ducked" Devin Haney when dude already had his schedule lined up. It's pretty ****ing disgusting too how you celebrate the fact that if Devin Haney was offered to fight Lomachenko that he should turn it down because Loma hurt his feelings. You're not a boxing fan Big Dunn. You dont want the best fights. You just wanna pretend that your next black boogeyman is the best because you miss those Floyd days where you could ride on his coattails and pretend you were the best. All this because Loma dropped the belt rather than fight Haney. You keep bringing up race rather than call Loma out for his actions. Ive been a boxing fan for close to 40 years. Never have I claimed Haney was the best or a boogeyman. I never bragged about any title he owned. But it’s obvious what your deal is. When canelo did this to ggg, you had an issue. When Loma did it to Haney you have no issue. Yes, Haney should treat Loma the same way Loma treated him. Not because Loma was mean to him, but because Loma has no title and isn’t the most lucrative fight- the same reasons you cited for Loma not fighting him. Loma’s actions shouldn’t be rewarded. Haney should get the Teo fight next after Kambosis, assuming he wins. Loma, if he beats Nakatani can wait until after Haney makes an optional defense. But all your garbage tells us what the real deal here is - your white hope in Loma gave away his belt like a coward, lost to Teo, was too stupid to have a rematch clause, and now has to work his way back and you want him to jump to the front of the line. Nope.

it means u have reached the required standard to win one of the 4 'big' belts its a good achievement in the sport, even in this era of so many belts which is very bad for boxing matchups fans want to see, a new system should be developed where its clear who the division champ is and if u want him u have to go get him in a clear and straight forward way, if u are willing and good enough that is

Tank has no bearing in this discussion so I don't know why you brought him up. You can't prove your stripes if the champ drops the belt when you're the mando. If I had an agenda, which I don't, if Loma doesn't drop the belt and Bob doesn't make the emeritus thing with the WBC then there would be nothing for me to discuss. I am discussing Loma's actions. Since you can't refute my post, you have to make it race driven. Fine. Race card is all you have because if it were any other fighter doing this you'd be killing them, and rightfully so. Loma has no belt. Why should Haney fight him instead of trying to fight the money fight in Teo? You are literally criticizing Haney for doing the exact same thing Loma did. Haney should treat Loma the way Loma treated him. It isn't Haney's fault Loma failed to secure a rematch clause or dropped the belt rather than fight him. I never claimed Haney was a killer. I posted-and stand by -the fact styles make fights. Haney's attributes would make a fight at 135 difficult IMO. As I posted, if they fight and Loma beats him, I will say I was wrong. Also as I posted you and others told me Loma was going to dust off Teo. What happened? Sorry but I am not giving Loma a win until he proves it in the ring. Until that time I will judge his actions. All we can go on is a man's actions. When the mando was the easy Crolla, Loma made the defense. when the mando was Haney, he dropped the belt, worked with his promoter to be named franchise champ, sat out for a year, and then fought Teo. If Haney had done the exact same thing you'd be criticizing him regardless of his resume. Whatever Haney does from here on out, the fact is Loma dropped the belt rather than fight him. You are justifying the move. You are defending Loma for doing the same thing you criticized Canelo for doing to GGG. care to explain why? Guys like you act like you're so brilliant and that people can't see straight through your bullshit. Why did I bring up Tank? Oh, he's one of your great black hope's isn't he? Thats the fucking stupid game people like you play. Devin Haney is no fucking different. People like you have been working so hard hard find then instead of just fucking enjoying boxing. Loma doesn't have his stripes? Dude was unified at 126 and 130lbs being a multiple multiple class world champion and has what, 13 world champion ship bouts under his belt? Compare that to Devin Haney. Who's Devin Haney? Who did Devin Haney win his belt from against? Tell me WHOOOOO. LMFAO. You actually think you have a fucking argument which is fucking hilarious! And oh? You think that Devin Haney is gonna sign up to fight Teofimo Lopez? PLEASE DO! I'd love to see that fight Unlike you who only loves to talk about it. And if he doesn't get get fight OH NO, HE SHOULD JUST NOT FIGHT LOMA BECAUSE LOMA HURT HIS FEELINGS. Laugh my fucking ass off ducking the top two guys at 135 Also, maybe you should take a look into your revisionist history of the WBC Franchise title. Lomachenko was under the impression that the WBC franchise title was a non title but instead a label. He did not know he would be stripped. Even NOW THERE is confusion and the WBC has NOT clarified it. I thought franchise champion was a title you couldn't lose very? But now it is? You don't even fucking know yourself but oh, you think your bias doesn't show Big Dunn? AND yet you BRAG so much about how Devin Haney emailed for his championship instead of fought for it. OH YEAH, that is someone you should be afraid of. Some who wouldn't even fight for it, but emailed for it instead. That's SO laughable lmao. And dude. Don't even compare this to Canelo vs GGG. By using that as a comparison you clearly show you have no idea what you're talking about because the comparison isn't even close. SO YOURE TELLING ME DEVIN HANEY IS CANELO RIGHT? LMFAO. There is no comparison between the two. And dude, QUIT WITH THE, IF IT WAS THE OTHER WAY AROUND excuses. If it was the other way around Devin Haney would be fighting the guys he should instead of not fighting them and calling everyone a duck instead. If it was the other way around Devin Haney would be working to get the fights he wants instead of fighting no one. Lomachenko won 3 world titles at 135 and promoters didn't stop him. And honestly, it's quite amusing how you pretend he "ducked" Devin Haney when dude already had his schedule lined up. It's pretty fucking disgusting too how you celebrate the fact that if Devin Haney was offered to fight Lomachenko that he should turn it down because Loma hurt his feelings. You're not a boxing fan Big Dunn. You dont want the best fights. You just wanna pretend that your next black boogeyman is the best because you miss those Floyd days where you could ride on his coattails and pretend you were the best.

Fun Fact, the first international boxing match saw James Figg elect Robert Whitaker to the role of English Champion. That's about 1728 from memory, def-1720s Then in like 1820 after a decade of reigning Tom Cribb retired and elected Tom Spring to the role. Years, centuries; literally always been there. I have no issue with people disliking fighters being elevated, I just think it's funny they're up in arms over one in particular. I know some of the guys I've seen who complained about it were Golovkin and Bivol fans too so I gotta laugh. Lomachenko, the WBC and Top Rank should get the blame for the franchise stuff but they're mad at Haney instead. :lol1:

- -Luv how Linares swished Haney big flapping lips stumbling into his fat clown daddy corner.

Devin Haney is a dead man walking. There’s no real supervision in boxing, not complete supervision at least. But boxing has a way to weed out the weak. Boxing will catch up to Haney. Some fans are in denial that Gamboa and Linares were solely put in the ring for Haney to KO them and he can be more easily advertised. Two fighters known by any fan who has been watching boxing for the last 10+ years, as fighters who don’t have the best chins in boxing. Back to back. And he could not drop any of them to save his life. He knows him self so well, that pre-fight when asked about KO’ing Linares, he said he doesn’t have to get the KO. Lol, he knows he couldn’t even he tried. And he did try so hard, he pushed and tackled Linares all over the ring trying to get a phony KD through wrestling because his punches couldn’t do it.

You ever seen some sheeit like this before? {"alt":"Click image for larger version Name:\tgiphy.gif Views:\t0 Size:\t8.74 MB ID:\t30928458","data-align":"left","data-attachmentid":"30928458","data-size":"full","title":"giphy.gif"} In my 25 years of watching boxing, that is definitely one of the most pathetic moves i’ve seen in a live boxing match for sure. Number 1 is that dude who punched his opponent after the fight when his opponent came to hug him. But that Haney hugging BS is also up there. I am not a pro boxer but I have sparred countless times for years, and have been stopped by a bigger dude than me. I never hugged even when I should have. You get in the ring, you fight. Or else go do something else with your life. Being all pathetic like that on live TV. Never lol, I have never done anything like that. If you’re going to KO me, then go ahead and try your best and i’ll try my best too. But i’m not hugging anyone like that. Anyone can call me an armchair warrior, but I swear on my mother I have been hurt badly in sparring and never done anything like that. And honestly that’s rare to see any fighter do it like that, like Haney did.

Lomachenko has proven his stripes and Haney has not. THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE . Dude, I don't get why you always need to pretend you don't have an agenda when you always do. And there is no other way around. Instead of fighting all the top guys like Lomachenko, Devin Haney has instead chose to run his mouth rather than get in the ring calling everyone else duckers and fighting no one. There's no other way around because Devin Haney hasn't grown the balls despite his talent. He's no different than the other boogeyman who doesn't want to fight the best at all. TANK DAVIS. Even now, without a belt, near damn everyone still regards Lomachenko as a better more proven fighter than Devin Haney career wise and at 135lbs. Devin Haney should be looking forward to fighting Lomachenko like he's pretended he's wanted to this whole time to prove he's better. BUT NOOOOOO. DEVIN HANEY SHOULDNT FIGHT LOMACHENKO BECAUSE LOMA WAS MEAN TO HIM. LMFAO. Guys like you created the term "mental gymnastics " but no one likes to do that more than you. Here's the best part too. If Devin Haney isn't fighting Lomachenko next who's he gonna fight? Who brings more value and the most money to the table who isn't Teofimo Lopez or Lomachenko? Oh, dudes such a killer doe! If Lomachenko wins next weekend and I'm Devin Haney I would want that fight. It makes sense legacy wise and it makes sense money wise.. What name is better on your resume and who will make you the most money? Lmfao. Maybe Haney needs to wait Lomachenko out a few more years like Tank Davis is still doing eh? Dudes so ****ing afraid of fighting anyone legit he won't fight anyone legit champions at 130-140. Maybe he should pick up a secondary strap at 147 too off a complete no one too lmfao. Tank has no bearing in this discussion so I don't know why you brought him up. You can't prove your stripes if the champ drops the belt when you're the mando. If I had an agenda, which I don't, if Loma doesn't drop the belt and Bob doesn't make the emeritus thing with the WBC then there would be nothing for me to discuss. I am discussing Loma's actions. Since you can't refute my post, you have to make it race driven. Fine. Race card is all you have because if it were any other fighter doing this you'd be killing them, and rightfully so. Loma has no belt. Why should Haney fight him instead of trying to fight the money fight in Teo? You are literally criticizing Haney for doing the exact same thing Loma did. Haney should treat Loma the way Loma treated him. It isn't Haney's fault Loma failed to secure a rematch clause or dropped the belt rather than fight him. I never claimed Haney was a killer. I posted-and stand by -the fact styles make fights. Haney's attributes would make a fight at 135 difficult IMO. As I posted, if they fight and Loma beats him, I will say I was wrong. Also as I posted you and others told me Loma was going to dust off Teo. What happened? Sorry but I am not giving Loma a win until he proves it in the ring. Until that time I will judge his actions. All we can go on is a man's actions. When the mando was the easy Crolla, Loma made the defense. when the mando was Haney, he dropped the belt, worked with his promoter to be named franchise champ, sat out for a year, and then fought Teo. If Haney had done the exact same thing you'd be criticizing him regardless of his resume. Whatever Haney does from here on out, the fact is Loma dropped the belt rather than fight him. You are justifying the move. You are defending Loma for doing the same thing you criticized Canelo for doing to GGG. care to explain why?

He waited a year daggum. Plenty of time to get rid of the easy mando like he did Crolla. I never said I didn't want Loma to fight the #1 guy so stop with that BS. I reacted to him dropping the belt and working an emeritus deal. These are the exact same things I said when Canelo did this to GGG. Loma lost now and has no belt. Why should Haney treat him any differently than Loma treated him? It was a cowardly move that you would label it that had it been the other way around. Lomachenko has proven his stripes and Haney has not. THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE . Dude, I don't get why you always need to pretend you don't have an agenda when you always do. And there is no other way around. Instead of fighting all the top guys like Lomachenko, Devin Haney has instead chose to run his mouth rather than get in the ring calling everyone else duckers and fighting no one. There's no other way around because Devin Haney hasn't grown the balls despite his talent. He's no different than the other boogeyman who doesn't want to fight the best at all. TANK DAVIS. Even now, without a belt, near damn everyone still regards Lomachenko as a better more proven fighter than Devin Haney career wise and at 135lbs. Devin Haney should be looking forward to fighting Lomachenko like he's pretended he's wanted to this whole time to prove he's better. BUT NOOOOOO. DEVIN HANEY SHOULDNT FIGHT LOMACHENKO BECAUSE LOMA WAS MEAN TO HIM. LMFAO. Guys like you created the term "mental gymnastics " but no one likes to do that more than you. Here's the best part too. If Devin Haney isn't fighting Lomachenko next who's he gonna fight? Who brings more value and the most money to the table who isn't Teofimo Lopez or Lomachenko? Oh, dudes such a killer doe! If Lomachenko wins next weekend and I'm Devin Haney I would want that fight. It makes sense legacy wise and it makes sense money wise.. What name is better on your resume and who will make you the most money? Lmfao. Maybe Haney needs to wait Lomachenko out a few more years like Tank Davis is still doing eh? Dudes so fucking afraid of fighting anyone legit he won't fight anyone legit champions at 130-140. Maybe he should pick up a secondary strap at 147 too off a complete no one too lmfao.

17 weight classes, 10 belts per weight class,. Sanctioning organizations in the pockets of promoters.. . I wouldn't say calling yourself a champion is quite the accomplishment it was 40-50 years ago..

To a young fighter means the world. To me, nothing, it's devalued with garbage trinkets. The ring magazine belt is the most prestigious and does not get the merit it deserves. Are held it as the ww and MW champion. Gene Tunney and so on. As more weight classes been created, it's become worthless owning an abc trinket.

he already said he was figthing the commey-lopez winner before haney became mandatory. look it up. now you are just revising history to try and twist things as if haney was some notable fight. he wasnt. loma also said im fighting lopez unless someone makes me a good offer. haney and dazn didnt. this is some weird fan fiction going on where you want loma not to fight the #1 guy and instead fight an unknown with zero top 10 wins. thats just silly and you know it. haney could fight loma right now and guess what? he doesnt want to! He waited a year daggum. Plenty of time to get rid of the easy mando like he did Crolla. I never said I didn't want Loma to fight the #1 guy so stop with that BS. I reacted to him dropping the belt and working an emeritus deal. These are the exact same things I said when Canelo did this to GGG. Loma lost now and has no belt. Why should Haney treat him any differently than Loma treated him? It was a cowardly move that you would label it that had it been the other way around.

Is that your opinion that Lomachenko wasn't confident he could beat Haney? Or did Lomachenko say this? Haney had wins over 0 notable fighters. Why would Lomachenko be scared of a weak punching boxer who nobody knew of? Even now, his best win is Linares and that fight is notable more because of Haney's stanky legs and holding than him getting a W over the aging, past prime Linares. If anything, stylistically, Gary Russell Jr was a much more difficult fight than Haney. Nicholas Walters was also more dangerous. So was a veteran like Orlando Salido. And no one on Earth would say Haney is better than Lopez. Lopez can box, punch, take a punch, he can go the distance, he can close out fights within the distance. Haney literally couldn't knock down Gamboa of all people, or Linares. You can say Haney is one-dimensional in a way. He can't trade, has to be careful and box, avoid getting hit clean. He's f/cked going forward because that was a past his best Linares. Fighters are going to go for that chin now with no worries of anything hard coming back at them. Gamboa and Linares never even flinched at any of his power shots. And they were put there solely for him to raise his KO profile. Lomachenko would embarrass that kid and you should know better. Networks/Promotional differences made that fight hard to make on top of Haney being unknown. Actions speak louder than words. I base my opinion on the fact when Crolla wasthe mando was an easy fight, he took it. With Haney, he instead dropped the belt. Why not just dust him off like Crolla and make the easy payday? Because that payday wouldn't be so easy. Styles make fights, not previous opponents or who you beat. Haney has the attributes-size, speed, height, athleticism-to make it a difficult fight. triangle theories also don't work. So it doesn't really matter who Haney has fought or defeated before a possible Loma fight. You of all people should understand this. Russell has much shorter arms than Loma so I didn't think he would stylistically be tougher. Walters was out for about 1 year, mitigating that danger. You don't have to knock someone out or down to win a fight. What you posted isn't wrong in theory. Lomachenko was a 7-1 favorite over Teo and was supposed to embarrass him as well but that didn't happen. You make salient points but you are only talking about Haney. Loma hasn't looked great at 135. Haney is big and fast at this weight. His length will allow him to fight at a distance that a Russell couldn't. Sorry Kev but I am not giving Loma a win until they fight. If I'm proved wrong then I will say so. As for now all we can go on are the actions.

I get your point, but Loma gave away the belt because he wasn’t confident he could beat Haney. A loss would’ve meant no big money Teo fight. I get that promoters and sanctioning bodies rank guys that often don’t deserve it, but those same promoters get big names title fights ahead of more deserving guys as well. Haney shouldn’t be celebrated as a champ but what Loma and Bob worked out with the wbc should be greatly scorned and criticized. he already said he was figthing the commey-lopez winner before haney became mandatory. look it up. now you are just revising history to try and twist things as if haney was some notable fight. he wasnt. loma also said im fighting lopez unless someone makes me a good offer. haney and dazn didnt. this is some weird fan fiction going on where you want loma not to fight the #1 guy and instead fight an unknown with zero top 10 wins. thats just silly and you know it. haney could fight loma right now and guess what? he doesnt want to!

I get your point, but Loma gave away the belt because he wasn’t confident he could beat Haney. A loss would’ve meant no big money Teo fight. I get that promoters and sanctioning bodies rank guys that often don’t deserve it, but those same promoters get big names title fights ahead of more deserving guys as well. Haney shouldn’t be celebrated as a champ but what Loma and Bob worked out with the wbc should be greatly scorned and criticized. Is that your opinion that Lomachenko wasn't confident he could beat Haney? Or did Lomachenko say this? Haney had wins over 0 notable fighters. Why would Lomachenko be scared of a weak punching boxer who nobody knew of? Even now, his best win is Linares and that fight is notable more because of Haney's stanky legs and holding than him getting a W over the aging, past prime Linares. If anything, stylistically, Gary Russell Jr was a much more difficult fight than Haney. Nicholas Walters was also more dangerous. So was a veteran like Orlando Salido. And no one on Earth would say Haney is better than Lopez. Lopez can box, punch, take a punch, he can go the distance, he can close out fights within the distance. Haney literally couldn't knock down Gamboa of all people, or Linares. You can say Haney is one-dimensional in a way. He can't trade, has to be careful and box, avoid getting hit clean. He's f/cked going forward because that was a past his best Linares. Fighters are going to go for that chin now with no worries of anything hard coming back at them. Gamboa and Linares never even flinched at any of his power shots. And they were put there solely for him to raise his KO profile. Lomachenko would embarrass that kid and you should know better. Networks/Promotional differences made that fight hard to make on top of Haney being unknown.

Lopez vs Haney: Lopez: I’m the champion. I beat the champion. Haney: No! I’m the champion, the champion dropped the title and I picked it up from the floor. So i’m the real champ. Lopez: No, look, I got the WBC title physically in my possession. Look Haney: Me too! Look ! Lopez: No way, that’s fake. Haney: Na bruh, it’s real. Yours is fake. Lopez: Sulaiman told me I got the real one. Joke’s on you. Haney: Na, Sulaiman told me I have the real one and he only told you that so you can leave him alone. Lopez: Bro, I beat the man of the division. The Ring champion of the division. You wrote an email to get your title. Haney: I earned it by beating that one dude with the name and the hair, who wore them trunks, forgot his name. Lopez: Exactly you don’t even know his name. You have to use Boxrec to remember your own title win. I beat Vasyl Lomachenko. I get your point, but Loma gave away the belt because he wasn’t confident he could beat Haney. A loss would’ve meant no big money Teo fight. I get that promoters and sanctioning bodies rank guys that often don’t deserve it, but those same promoters get big names title fights ahead of more deserving guys as well. Haney shouldn’t be celebrated as a champ but what Loma and Bob worked out with the wbc should be greatly scorned and criticized.

Having a belt means you can promote a fight as a title bout. It's a commercial thing. And that's why we have so many belts.

Lopez vs Haney: Lopez: I’m the champion. I beat the champion. Haney: No! I’m the champion, the champion dropped the title and I picked it up from the floor. So i’m the real champ. Lopez: No, look, I got the WBC title physically in my possession. Look Haney: Me too! Look ! Lopez: No way, that’s fake. Haney: Na bruh, it’s real. Yours is fake. Lopez: Sulaiman told me I got the real one. Joke’s on you. Haney: Na, Sulaiman told me I have the real one and he only told you that so you can leave him alone. Lopez: Bro, I beat the man of the division. The Ring champion of the division. You wrote an email to get your title. Haney: I earned it by beating that one dude with the name and the hair, who wore them trunks, forgot his name. Lopez: Exactly you don’t even know his name. You have to use Boxrec to remember your own title win. I beat Vasyl Lomachenko. You're pretty passionate for Lopez but Haney's just one of so many people we've seen elevated over the years. Not sure what's different about this situation.