Roberto Duran 5 Best Wins. Is he really….

What trollish thread is this huh? Look man, Duran is simply the best, he started out at Featherweight, won his first title at Lightweight (cleaned out 135 and skipped 140) and took on the greatest Welterweight, Jr. Middleweight and Middleweight of all times with no catchweights. Cleary being the smallest and the oldest of the 4Kings, can you not see how amazing that is? Your boy Floyd even put Roberto Duran 2 in his ATG list above people like Ali. Floyd didn't even rank Louis, Robinson, or Armstrong. But to answer your question here: 1. Sugar Ray Leonard - GOAT Welterweight 2. Iran Barkley - Beat Tommy Hearns 2x 3. Davey Moore - Beat Wilfredo Benitez 4. Carlos Palomino - HOF comparable to DLH Level 5. Esteban De Jesus - HOF comparable to JMM Level

Wrong Davey Moore. The Davey Moore that got into the hall was a great featherweight from the 50s not the Jr Middleweight Duran beat in the 80s. The same people who were agreeing with him are the same individuals who constantly accuse people of, “not knowing sh** about boxing”. The irony.

Wrong Davey Moore. The Davey Moore that got into the hall was a great featherweight from the 50s not the Jr Middleweight Duran beat in the 80s. Got It! Thanks for the Correction!

I would say off the top of my head: Carlos Palomino (Hall Of Famer) Ken Buchanan (Hall Of Famer) Iran Barkley Davey Moore (Recently Inducted In The Hall Finally) Duran legacy is largely based on what he was able to Accomplished at 135 back in the 70's which is why he is STILL Considered by most the Greatest Lightweight Of All Times Wrong Davey Moore. The Davey Moore that got into the hall was a great featherweight from the 50s not the Jr Middleweight Duran beat in the 80s.

You just became a boxing "fan" right? Such a stupid question. His 135 of reign is better than most others careers. What he did above that weight just enhances him even more.

Roberto and Manny the 2 bravest fighters in the last 60 years at least. Duran a short armed fighter NOT ON PED'S got fat in between fight drunk and partier moved up almost 30 lbs to take on the best and beat 90% of them. Hagler was killing every WW and JM but didnt even mess up Durans hair who was a blown up LW. Manny almost the same. fought the best in countless divisions

We agree. Read my post again. My point is when it’s anyone but Floyd , posters like daggum would do exactly what you did here. if it was Floyd beating palomino daggum would talk about who he lost to before, coming off a loss, he wasn’t prime and any other thing to degrade the win. That is the point Iman is making and I dont see how people can deny he is right. Just use the same standards for everyone is what Iman is asking for and I agree 100% yup if you can scrutinize Floyd's resume you can do the same for anyone, easily Duran

Cmon. Palomino won and defended his belt about 7 or 8 times over a 3 year span. Yeah, he lost to a 20 year old undefeated prime Benitez who already was champ at Jr Welter but it was a SD(1 judge scored it to him, and 2 judges had him losing by only 2 and 3 rounds) and it was only his 2nd loss. Duran had just moved up to Welter so a fight with Palomino, even coming off a loss, was a very credible opponent. We agree. Read my post again. My point is when it’s anyone but Floyd , posters like daggum would do exactly what you did here. if it was Floyd beating palomino daggum would talk about who he lost to before, coming off a loss, he wasn’t prime and any other thing to degrade the win. That is the point Iman is making and I dont see how people can deny he is right. Just use the same standards for everyone is what Iman is asking for and I agree 100%

Palomino was literally coming off a loss to Benitez had a loss and I think 2 or 3 draws when Duran beat him. A guy with his record, coming off a loss, you would never give Floyd credit for beating someone like that. You’d degrade him as not prime. Cmon. Palomino won and defended his belt about 7 or 8 times over a 3 year span. Yeah, he lost to a 20 year old undefeated prime Benitez who already was champ at Jr Welter but it was a SD(1 judge scored it to him, and 2 judges had him losing by only 2 and 3 rounds) and it was only his 2nd loss. Duran had just moved up to Welter so a fight with Palomino, even coming off a loss, was a very credible opponent.

Ray Lampkin didn’t go down in history as an ATG but he sure gave Duran a hell of a fight, inspiring one of his best performances.

He’s top 5 all time great fighters and the greatest Hispanic fighter of all time.

his whole goal was to talk about how floyd and duran arent held to the same standard. the problem is when you hold them to the same standard duran looks much better. look at all the guys duran fought in their primes: leonard, hearns, benitez, hagler, buchanan, de jesus, palomino, moore, barkley, and more. if we wanted to twist and turn durans resume using floyd standards we would say duran beat saoul mamby who went on to be the #1 fighter at 140 years after losing to duran isnt that amazing! floyd pretzel logic. When you make posts like this then it’s easily understandable why he feels this way. While I feel his point about Durans resume is wrong, his point about judging resumes by the same standard is fair. Only with Floyd do guys like you make up these ridiculous standards of fighters. Take this post I quoted. how was Iran Barkley prime when he fought Duran? If this was Floyd you’d point out Barkley had been ko’d by lesser fighters earlier in his career to lessen the win. Palomino was literally coming off a loss to Benitez had a loss and I think 2 or 3 draws when Duran beat him. A guy with his record, coming off a loss, you would never give Floyd credit for beating someone like that. You’d degrade him as not prime. So again imo he is wrong about Duran’s resume but he is spot on that clowns like you have completely different standards for Floyd than you so any other ATG.

canelo barely beat solid fighter trout. leonard had a ko win over an all time great in benitez. canelo had 2 top 10 wins when he fought floyd. leonard had 7. floyd still needed a catchweight...duran did not. not the same at all? also leonard was an olympic gold medalist. what a weird false equivalency. What a schooling absolute knowledge good stuff you're one of my favourite posters when I watch from the sidelines

I’ve been fighting since I was 7 years old. It’s always the non athletic keyboard warriors saying that same stupid line. How many fights have you won? - -Had my first fight @age 3, call it mixed martial arts as I was instantaneously tasked with disarming another lad hell bent on beating the Imammy out of me with a stick. U know, the age where U was in U Barney Boys U was so proud of...

you're starting with a career lightweight for a mortal human being, one of the greatest ever and with 7 years as champion fighting the best, who went up to 147 lbs. at LW he beat esteban dejesus, kenny buchannan, two of the very best at the weight in the era, and hall of famers. then he moved up to 147 and beat carlos palomino, pipino cuevas, two hall of famers. next he beat one of the very best welterweights of all time decisively, in ray leonard. from there he'd move up to 160 lbs and 154 lbs, where he was well overweight. fight with hagler was close, crazy to think about when you realize this guy was a lightweight for seven years, and started his career at about 118 lbs. knocked out by hearns at 154 but he wasn't training hard and it's tommy rfucking hearns, one of the best punchers ever and styles make fights. then he went to middleweight again and knocked iran barkley around the ring. barkley was a giant middleweight with a good chin and power and he had a very good career. if i had to rank his best wins i would surely put leonard first. then you've got other premium wins that, given the weights in whcih they took place and duran's size, or the timing when he fought prime lightweight hall of famers, are elite. palomino, cuevas, barkley, buchannan, dejesus are wins that fall into this category. when you look at duran's resume, or anyone else, you have to look at the entire thing and put the wins into context. the man is one of the best lightweights ever. 7 fucking years a champion. 72-79. you can argue he was the greatest fighter of that decade along with muhammad ali. THEN he starts his "second career" where he moves up, takes huge money fights on the back of his legacy and abilities as a bona fide all time great. he's similar to pacquiao in this regard. you get extra credit for your wins when the guys are naturally 2-3 weight classes bigger than you are. iran barkley had shoulders like a lightheavyweight. ray leonard had success all the way to 160 lbs. marvin hagler was a career middleweight. palomino and cuevas were career welterweights with real power. davey moore had 100 amateur fights with 5 losses, and only missed out on the olympics because he fought donald curry, one of hte best amateurs you will ever see and had 4x as many fights as moore, who started boxing relatively late. to really appreciate duran's career you'll need to familiarize yourself with two eras and two weight areas. the 70's, where duran was prime and a lightweight and one of the most skilled punchers and life takers you're ever going to see. elite chin, boxing skills, and the best power ever at 135. then you had his next era, where he was a primetime fighter and a household name taking on all comers at advanced weights for a fuckload of money. in the 80's he made most of his bones and took on his toughest challenges in spite of his advanced age and a spare tire. finally, you need to be able to just look at a fighter with unreal skills, chin, and power and real needs to recognize real. watch some highlights. watch some old fights with no sound and really get an appreciation for the combinations and the moves, how hard he was to hit, and what it looked like when he connected with his opponents and they rolled around on the ground or slumped over like they were dead!

Nothing spectacular about that list at all. Show me who you've beaten before you talk sh it like that.

Well of course it wouldnt look spectacular to someone who knows nothing about boxing history pre 2010 Mayweather. I’ve been fighting since I was 7 years old. It’s always the non athletic keyboard warriors saying that same stupid line. How many fights have you won?

Duran was half Mexican. Blck clowns in the USA see prejudice everywhere you were never a slave, stop the ex slave mentality nobody is holding you back from your destiny get off the cross —- we need the wood! get woke and go to Africa and work with Jews who filter water for people you should be serving. You are an azz clown What's with the race shit? I'm sure you are intelligent enough to have a disagreement without resorting to that. It wreaks of insecurity and ignorance.

Nothing spectacular about that list at all. So did u marry a 1st cousin or 2nd cousin?

good point about the double standard. Duran is an ATG and many rate him above Floyd. Most rate his best win as his decision over 23 year old SRL when he was 28 and still in his prime. But when Floyd at age 36 beat 23 year old Canelo now 23 year olds are green and it wasnt a big win.