As much as I like to **** on Wilder, hes not quite THAT bad. I mean the Ortiz wins were decent, he did drop Fury twice, guys like Stiverne, Breazele and Liakovich are C level but taking them out in the opening round is still pretty impressive. Wins over Duhaupas, Arreola, Molina, Washington, Szpilka are...okayish.
He dropped Fury that wasn't prepared and was a big fat useless mess coming back from 3 years of coke snorting and pie eating lol. We all saw what happened when he fought a Fury that was near peak- total destruction.
And Ortiz? Jesus christ man he's 50 years old.
It's about his total lack of technique and the guys he didn't fight. Who was his best win 35 fights into his career? Lol
Total bum
As much as I like to shit on Wilder, hes not quite THAT bad. I mean the Ortiz wins were decent, he did drop Fury twice, guys like Stiverne, Breazele and Liakovich are C level but taking them out in the opening round is still pretty impressive. Wins over Duhaupas, Arreola, Molina, Washington, Szpilka are...okayish.
Anyone who fights at professional level with a string of KOs is no bum.
I detest the word bum in boxing.
It's become a part of boxing vernacular among fans now, just label anyone you don't like a "bum". Even Journeymen can't be called bums. I wouldn't even call someone with two left feet a bum. Call someone boring or reckless, fine, but bum is such a loaded and ugly word to apply to anyone who risks their life to entertain you.
And for some reason it always goes beyond mere dislike in boxing - it's malicious and spiteful, and they always need to share it with everyone else, especially with that fighters fans because how dare they like a fighter you consider a "bum". Get over yourselves. Get a ****ing life.
Someone put Deontays granny to bed please
Anyone who fights at professional level with a string of KOs is no bum.
I detest the word bum in boxing.
It's become a part of boxing vernacular among fans now, just label anyone you don't like a "bum". Even Journeymen can't be called bums. I wouldn't even call someone with two left feet a bum. Call someone boring or reckless, fine, but bum is such a loaded and ugly word to apply to anyone who risks their life to entertain you.
And for some reason it always goes beyond mere dislike in boxing - it's malicious and spiteful, and they always need to share it with everyone else, especially with that fighters fans because how dare they like a fighter you consider a "bum". Get over yourselves. Get a fucking life.
apollo creed was trying to take out rocky too.
there is no chance haymon would risk letting the key asset of his empire's existence to lose to a 48 yr old non draw cuban or a fat zero draw 39 yr old haitian. you should know that.
Lol I guess but the way they do this is put their cash cow in with guys that they are like 80% favourite over and then stack the judges and ref in the cash cow's favour.
They can't just pay efer single guy to take a dive. How do you explain Ortiz beating Beyonce around the ring in their first fight?
Trust me, ortiz and stiverne were hired patsies rigged to dive.
Lol they were giving Oscar winning performances then. They both took a lot of damage and held on for Dear life and Ortiz put it on Wilder, was clearly trying to take his ass out.
Sounds like bullshit tbh lad
terrence "bum" crawford is one of the biggest hypejob in boxing.. look at how the orgs put him in top p4p when he hasn't beaten any elite fighter.. and until now he was sitting pretty and no scheduled fights.. hostaging his belt..
He told Fury that he is possessed by a spirit when he fights "It's your God against my god" he said. I don't respect delusional devil worshipers tbh
Wow? Is that true?
Well, if he did, looks like the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob won.
Can you post evidence of Wilder saying this?
Wilder is an absolute bum and yet hes the 2nd best h.w. Let that sink in for how pathetically horrible the division is
No the heavyweight division is nice now. Where was Wilder ever the 2nd or 3rd best? It was all smoke and mirrors. He was probably only ever the 4th or 5th, maybe 6th best at heavy. Povetkin and Whyte were always better and ahead of him. Parker too imo
You are just a hater.
"Because hes a bum" hehee. hehee.
"Won olympic bronze medal so bum heheee"
Before he was a boxer, he wasnt a bum, he had worked multiple jobs.
I dunno why you hate Wilder but you clearly do. I get it, there are lots of fighters out there who are despicable humans (like Billy Hoe Saunders, Margarito and Adrien Broner) but Wilder is NOT one of them.
Margarito is retired and Manny gave him what he deserved. Why is Billy Joe so bad? Canelo rekt him anyway, Broner is just a donkey, he got Humbled by Maidana though.
Listen, Wilder disgraced himself and the sport of boxing with his post fight antics after the Fury whooping. He threw the man that saved his life under the bus, he accused the guy that whooped him fair and square of loading his gloves and then seemingly paid a bunch of Youtubers to spout those lies. He also had the gall to throw Kenny Bayless under the bus saying that he favoured Tyson in the ass whooping fight despite the fact that Al Haymon very likely paid Bayless to do everything in his power to help Wilder himself in that fight (we all saw it dont try to deny) Then to call Fury a thief etc lol crazy This isn't even mentioning the hilarious costume excuse.
He told Fury that he is possessed by a spirit when he fights "It's your God against my god" he said. I don't respect delusional devil worshipers tbh
Why did he start boxing? Because he's a bum
He started boxing late, got an olympic bronze medal. Yes he's a bum
The man is practically a cruiserweight. I didnt see him in a rush to fight in his natural weight class when Breidis, Usyk and Gassiev were going at it lol
some of his big potential fights fell thru (such as the Povetkin fight due to him poppin for roids) He ran away from the Povetkin fight because Pov had tiny traces of a heart medication that was only just added to the banned substances list. Beyonce took one look at the minute traces of this medication and twerked his way back on to the plane QUICK. He never wanted that fight lol
Huge number of defences of his WBC belt, 99% KO ratio Against who? BUMS thats who. Worst resume in the history of heavyweight boxing for a long time champ- a stage managed career.
if thats a bum..... It is yes
His networth is 30 million Ultimate bum-defender argument lol I don't give a **** about his bank balance, just want quality fights. And Beyonce stops them from happening.
You are just a hater.
"Because hes a bum" hehee. hehee.
"Won olympic bronze medal so bum heheee"
Before he was a boxer, he wasnt a bum, he had worked multiple jobs.
I dunno why you hate Wilder but you clearly do. I get it, there are lots of fighters out there who are despicable humans (like Billy Hoe Saunders, Margarito and Adrien Broner) but Wilder is NOT one of them.
You guys dont understand Wilder's journey. Why did he start boxing? For a noble cause, for his daughter.
He started boxing late, got an olympic bronze medal. The man is practically a cruiserweight with freakish power fighting in the HW division. He has been fighting locally trying to get recognition, some of his big potential fights fell thru (such as the Povetkin fight due to him poppin for roids) and he has suffered many injuries and even fought injured.
Huge number of defences of his WBC belt, 99% KO ratio, fast, athletic, disciplined, warrior mentality...... if thats a bum. thats quite a succesful bum. His networth is 30 million
Why did he start boxing? Because he's a bum
He started boxing late, got an olympic bronze medal. Yes he's a bum
The man is practically a cruiserweight. I didnt see him in a rush to fight in his natural weight class when Breidis, Usyk and Gassiev were going at it lol
some of his big potential fights fell thru (such as the Povetkin fight due to him poppin for roids) He ran away from the Povetkin fight because Pov had tiny traces of a heart medication that was only just added to the banned substances list. Beyonce took one look at the minute traces of this medication and twerked his way back on to the plane QUICK. He never wanted that fight lol
Huge number of defences of his WBC belt, 99% KO ratio Against who? BUMS thats who. Worst resume in the history of heavyweight boxing for a long time champ- a stage managed career.
if thats a bum..... It is yes
His networth is 30 million Ultimate bum-defender argument lol I don't give a fuck about his bank balance, just want quality fights. And Beyonce stops them from happening.
You guys dont understand Wilder's journey. Why did he start boxing? For a noble cause, for his daughter.
He started boxing late, got an olympic bronze medal. The man is practically a cruiserweight with freakish power fighting in the HW division. He has been fighting locally trying to get recognition, some of his big potential fights fell thru (such as the Povetkin fight due to him poppin for roids) and he has suffered many injuries and even fought injured.
Huge number of defences of his WBC belt, 99% KO ratio, fast, athletic, disciplined, warrior mentality...... if thats a bum. thats quite a succesful bum. His networth is 30 million
stiverne and ortiz also dove for wilder but they were different scripts. both ortiz and stiverne threw all four fights to wilder. haymon knew stiverne and ortiz were old and drew nothing and had no leverage, perfect patsies to take the bonus money to dive. wilder is more of a fraud than you even realize. the first fury fight was a fix too, fury played soft.
Lol nah Ortiz and Stiverne were just over the hill. Stiverne in the second fight had literally nothing left. What age is Ortiz anyway?
yes wilder was a fraud with a rigged record of hired divers and patsies but he never generated big money with his fake record so they had to throw him in with fury after ducking AJ for $120m and the truth was exposed.
Lol you just reminded me of of the Malik Scott dive. HAHAHAHAH
And then this guy Scott goes on to be his trainer. Jesus they aren't even trying to hide it
I been saying it longer than you dear boy. Wilder is the biggest scam in boxing history.
I appreciate you then sir.
Really grinds my gears that this guy has held up an undisputed heavyweight fight. A once in a generation event held up by Beyonce
I have pointed that out many times, these guys dont know much about boxing, i mean you literally going to compare Wilder to Shavers :cool::confused:. He literally avoided his toughest competitions 95% of the time. He KO mediocre level guys, he was in the same era as the Klits but never fought anyone of them or anyone that is close to those two in around that time, he avoided Dillian Whyte, took less money to fight Fury who was coming off the couch just to avoid Joshua. And this is the guy they want to compare to Mike Tyson, Shavers, Holmes etc? When your power is knocking out other beltholders then comeback and say something.
The guys you mentioned avoided no body, always wanted to fight the best.
I've never seen any of these Beyonce defenders talk about the reasons why his resume looks like utter dogshit for the first 40 fights.