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I keep seeing threads about Floyd IV and that’s fair. Let’s take a look at the other side now. This has never been addressed by the boxing media. “Pacquiao use of Bupivicane, Lidocaine, PRP treatment, Toradal, and Celestone were disclosed.”
Bupivicane is used to numb the pain during pregnancy and spinal surgery. Celestone Solupan is a steroid that treats low adrenal gland hormones.The entire time it was him using lidocaine not Floyd. Thats a lot of drugs for someone who is supposedly against drug usage. How long has Pacquiao been consuming these drugs?
You’re wrong. The form asks him to list any medication used in the last month.
Imagine seeing documented evidence and still denying it. The rules do not apply to Pacquiao. He can skip tests and take whatever he wants because he knows the fans won’t care.
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You’re wrong. The form asks him to list any medication used in the last month.
Youre wrong, the form requests all injuries in a written portion and then has a picture for retards who cant read and they mark on the picture where the injuries are
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I keep seeing threads about Floyd IV and that’s fair. Let’s take a look at the other side now. This has never been addressed by the boxing media. “Pacquiao use of Bupivicane, Lidocaine, PRP treatment, Toradal, and Celestone were disclosed.”
Bupivicane is used to numb the pain during pregnancy and spinal surgery. Celestone Solupan is a steroid that treats low adrenal gland hormones.The entire time it was him using lidocaine not Floyd. Thats a lot of drugs for someone who is supposedly against drug usage. How long has Pacquiao been consuming these drugs?
- -Y U no ask him?
'toopid?
this is pre fight paperwork, hes on 5 performance enhancing drugs in training for the fight and during the fight
if he had a shoulder injury pre fight, are you admitting he LIED on the prefight paperwork with the nevada state commission?
Should he have even been allowed to fight? So many double standards for him it’s crazy. Denying blood test, skipping blood test, cocktail of controversial drugs and no one blinks a eye.
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this is pre fight paperwork, hes on 5 performance enhancing drugs in training for the fight and during the fight
if he had a shoulder injury pre fight, are you admitting he LIED on the prefight paperwork with the nevada state commission?
You’re wrong. The form asks him to list any medication used in the last month.
So he’s on a host of painkiller’s in camp for no reason then.
this is pre fight paperwork, hes on 5 performance enhancing drugs in training for the fight and during the fight
if he had a shoulder injury pre fight, are you admitting he LIED on the prefight paperwork with the nevada state commission?
His pre fight paperwork says no injuries and specifically shows the shoulder area with no injuries
So he’s on a host of painkiller’s in camp for no reason then.
That’s the list of medication he was using for his shoulder in camp for the Mayweather fight. Dude had a complete tear by the time the fight was over.
His pre fight paperwork says no injuries and specifically shows the shoulder area with no injuries
Poochiaotards favorite insults was talking about Floyd's lidocaine use. Whoops looks like Poochiao officially admitted to nevada state athletic commission he uses lidocaine and multiple other "allowed" peds.
That’s the list of medication he was using for his shoulder in camp for the Mayweather fight. Dude had a complete tear by the time the fight was over.
Poochiaotards favorite insults was talking about Floyd's lidocaine use. Whoops looks like Poochiao officially admitted to nevada state athletic commission he uses lidocaine and multiple other "allowed" peds.
If Manny goes and beats Spence and Crawford he will be always spoken as an ATG especially at the age he did it. Then they will say regardless all those victories Floyd beat him easy. The more Pac wins the better Floyd looks.
Pac goes onto beat thurman and then perhaps spence then he will be seen as GOAT. People won't be talking about Floyd unless it's to ask him to come out of retirement and do what Pac is doing and beat beterbiev and nel o at 168.
The more Pac does, the more people expect of floyd to do. If Pac beats spence, nobody will be thinking of jmm koing pac, Torecampo koing Pac or Bradley beating Pac so why would Floyd having a win over pac be in people's minds?
People will be thinking how come jmm can beat pac but can't beat thurman and spence at 42 like Pac can? Same with floyd. How can Floyd beat pac but not beat young lions at 42 like pac?
If Floyd goes back and beats Canelo at 160 Pacquiao has to go back and beat Margarito and Oscar at their respective weights. Anyway you look at it Floyd is the superior boxer and deep inside everyone knows it.
Fights Lost
Pacquiao 7
Mayweather 0
Draws
Pacquiao 2
Mayweather 0
Catchweights
Pacquiao 4
Algieri, Marq, Cotto, Margarito
Mayweather 2
Canelo, Marquez
Titles Lost on Scales
Pac 1
May 0
Times Knocked Out or TKO
Pac 3
May 0
Times Knocked Unconscious
Pac 1
May 0
KO %
Pac 54.9
Floyd 54
Opponents Fought 2 or more times
Pacquiao 4
Bradley Barrera, Morales, Marquez
12 Fights
Mayweather 2
Maidana, Castillo
4 Fights
Vacant Titles Fought For
Pacquiao 8
4-2 in those fights
Mayweather 2
2-0 in those fights
Notable Undefeated Fighters Beat
Pacquiao 3
Algieri, Bradley, Thurman
Mayweather 3
Corrales, Hatton, Canelo
Olympic Medals
Pacquiao 0
Mayweather 1 (Bronze)
Notable Opponents who were coming off a loss or being KO
Pacquiao: Morales, Barrera2, Clottey, Mosley (L/D), Rios, Broner, Larios, Margarito(?)
Mayweather: Judah, Corley
Notable Opponents coming off KO/TKO win
Mayweather
Corrales
Canelo
Berto
Madaina
Cotto
Mosley
Marquez
Hatton
De La Hoya
Baldomir
Gatti
Sosa
Castillo (TKO Juan Macias prior to facing Floyd)
Castillo (KO Verdell Smith prior to rematch)
Pacquiao
Barrera
Hatton
Vargas
Matthysse
Marquez 3
Championship Fights Against Similar Opponents
Oscar 34yrs 154lbs W
Cotto 30yrs 154lbs W
Hatton 29yrs 147lbs KO
Mosley 38yrs 147lbs W
Oscar 35yrs 147lbs TKO
Cotto 27yrs 147lbs KO
Hatton 31yrs 140lbs KO
Mosley 39yrs 147lbs W
Opponents with 30+ KOs
Mayweather 12
MM MP Cotto Canelo Hatton ODLH SM Sharmba Gatti Ndou Castillo Marquez
12-0 4KO
Pacquiao 8
Hatton Marquez ODLH SM LM Barrera Morales
10-1-2 5KO
Career Earnings
Pacquiao 490M
Mayweather 800M
PPVs over 2M
Pacquiao 1
Mayweather
Mayweather 4
ODLH *McGregor Canelo Pacquiao
PPVs Against Similar Opponents
Pac/Cotto 1.25
May/Cotto 1.5
Pac/De La Hoya 1.3M
May/De La Hoya 2.4M
Pac/Mosley 1.3M
May/Mosley 1.4M
Marquez/May 1M
Marquez/Pac 3rd fight 1.3M
Pac/Hatton 850K
May/Hatton 850K
Promoted Fighters Who’ve Won World Titles
May 4
Smith, Jack, Davis, Bey
Pac 0
:lol1: :lol1:
I’m not sure whether this is impressive or really sad. :lol1:
{"data-align":"none","data-size":"medium","data-attachmentid":30939644} No, he is not a cheater. All of those medications are used to treat some type of pain. They are not performance enhancers.
Celestone Soluspan is a steroid. The commission knew exactly what he was trying to do. Lol
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You're the biggest bum in the history of boxingscene. I just gave you videos where unbiased boxing insiders have Pac far above Floyd and very high on all time lists. You're a biased bum and a useless dosser.
You your bike bum
Anyone can do that.
No, he is not a cheater. All of those medications are used to treat some type of pain. They are not performance enhancers.
Exactly. Pac was and is always clean.
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I keep seeing threads about Floyd IV and that’s fair. Let’s take a look at the other side now. This has never been addressed by the boxing media. “Pacquiao use of Bupivicane, Lidocaine, PRP treatment, Toradal, and Celestone were disclosed.”
Bupivicane is used to numb the pain during pregnancy and spinal surgery. Celestone Solupan is a steroid that treats low adrenal gland hormones.The entire time it was him using lidocaine not Floyd. Thats a lot of drugs for someone who is supposedly against drug usage. How long has Pacquiao been consuming these drugs?
Highly Suspect.
But never proven.
If Floyd goes back and beats Canelo at 160 Pacquiao has to go back and beat Margarito and Oscar at their respective weights. Anyway you look at it Floyd is the superior boxer and deep inside everyone knows it.
Fights Lost
Pacquiao 7
Mayweather 0
Draws
Pacquiao 2
Mayweather 0
Catchweights
Pacquiao 4
Algieri, Marq, Cotto, Margarito
Mayweather 2
Canelo, Marquez
Titles Lost on Scales
Pac 1
May 0
Times Knocked Out or TKO
Pac 3
May 0
Times Knocked Unconscious
Pac 1
May 0
KO %
Pac 54.9
Floyd 54
Opponents Fought 2 or more times
Pacquiao 4
Bradley Barrera, Morales, Marquez
12 Fights
Mayweather 2
Maidana, Castillo
4 Fights
Vacant Titles Fought For
Pacquiao 8
4-2 in those fights
Mayweather 2
2-0 in those fights
Notable Undefeated Fighters Beat
Pacquiao 3
Algieri, Bradley, Thurman
Mayweather 3
Corrales, Hatton, Canelo
Olympic Medals
Pacquiao 0
Mayweather 1 (Bronze)
Notable Opponents who were coming off a loss or being KO
Pacquiao: Morales, Barrera2, Clottey, Mosley (L/D), Rios, Broner, Larios, Margarito(?)
Mayweather: Judah, Corley
Notable Opponents coming off KO/TKO win
Mayweather
Corrales
Canelo
Berto
Madaina
Cotto
Mosley
Marquez
Hatton
De La Hoya
Baldomir
Gatti
Sosa
Castillo (TKO Juan Macias prior to facing Floyd)
Castillo (KO Verdell Smith prior to rematch)
Pacquiao
Barrera
Hatton
Vargas
Matthysse
Marquez 3
Championship Fights Against Similar Opponents
Oscar 34yrs 154lbs W
Cotto 30yrs 154lbs W
Hatton 29yrs 147lbs KO
Mosley 38yrs 147lbs W
Oscar 35yrs 147lbs TKO
Cotto 27yrs 147lbs KO
Hatton 31yrs 140lbs KO
Mosley 39yrs 147lbs W
Opponents with 30+ KOs
Mayweather 12
MM MP Cotto Canelo Hatton ODLH SM Sharmba Gatti Ndou Castillo Marquez
12-0 4KO
Pacquiao 8
Hatton Marquez ODLH SM LM Barrera Morales
10-1-2 5KO
Career Earnings
Pacquiao 490M
Mayweather 800M
PPVs over 2M
Pacquiao 1
Mayweather
Mayweather 4
ODLH *McGregor Canelo Pacquiao
PPVs Against Similar Opponents
Pac/Cotto 1.25
May/Cotto 1.5
Pac/De La Hoya 1.3M
May/De La Hoya 2.4M
Pac/Mosley 1.3M
May/Mosley 1.4M
Marquez/May 1M
Marquez/Pac 3rd fight 1.3M
Pac/Hatton 850K
May/Hatton 850K
Promoted Fighters Who’ve Won World Titles
May 4
Smith, Jack, Davis, Bey
Pac 0
Fair play about the opponents but the business side is pathetic and petty
Who gives a crap if either has promoted a fighter to win a vacant handed over world title cmon man
Really lame post