Should boxers care about the paying customers?

I think you meant "heel" or your phone autocorrected. Here's a video of that Tyson interview :rofl: Nah... Just have dyslexia so I spell really bad lol. Problem is when I look to change spelling it gets complicated for me lol.

ask GRJ if hes doing alrite

NO! I choose to watch boxing for MY entertaining...Nobody is forcing me to watch, buy a subscription or PPV So no because I'm a paying customer does not give me the right to tell a fighter HOW to fight! They all should have their own style and I as a "SPECTATOR" can pick and choose which fighter and style I choose to watch and support. If I don't like someone style I simply don't watch them instead of tuning in and complaining about their style. Like for example I try to avoid Rances Barthelemy fights lol unless he is fighting a top fighter or something then I just tough it out and watch him but yeah he has a awful style Boxers should fight "Their Fight" and do WTF they're best at so if you're gifted with great footwork it would be stupid not to use that gift to your advantage to get the win Couldn't agree more! Folks who are raised by their mothers try to troll fighters and make others not like them based on their expectations. Half of the time, those same idiots don't even know what they're watching but they complain anyway. It's as simple as you stated it, if you don't like it, just don't watch (or pay). If a fighter's that insecure or realize others won't watch them, they'll either fine tune their style or give those "fans" the finger. I don't expect Devin to fight like John Molina Jr, nor do I expect Andy Ruiz to fight like Floyd. That's why they place salt & pepper shakers on the tables at restaurants....everybody's taste is different.

Or should they not care what the fans think? Not every fighter has the luxury of thinking about the fans. For some fighters, you have to take the Marvin Hagler route. You come in as a no name and therefore you have to go everywhere and beat the toughest guys or you will not climb the ladder. A guy like that has to focus on what fans want in order to build and keep a fan base. If you're and ODH, Canelo or an SRL, an you come in with a huge fanbase and as a potential cash cow, you're goal has to be to keep winning. Your fan base will always be behind you so you don't necessarily have to please them, you just have to win.

In almost every other industry the mantra is "the customer is always right." Not in boxing, though. Promoters seldom make the fights fans want. And there are boxers that don't care if the people who paid to see them get good value for their money. Boxing is also a form of entertainment. No money back if dissatisfied. This is why a guy has to build that kickass rep. Make people want to see him even if he's not a star. To this day I'm not sure whos the boss, the boxer or the promoter....

Nah. Winning>>>. If you know you don't have much power and that you're not the best offensive fighter, there's nothing wrong with emphasizing your best qualities. Tim Bradley listened to fans who abused him for the decision over Pacquiao and was concussed badly and nearly lost to Provodnikov. When you're broke and suffering from physical ailments later in your life, those loud fans will not be there to support you. Terry Norris was amazing to watch but now he has brain damage. And where are the fans. Fight for yourself. Fight for your family. If you can be more offensive minded and be a bit more exciting without your defense suffering, cool. If you can't, then stick with what works. I've never seen a guy like Lara in a boring fight against come forward brawlers. Hurd, Angulo easily brought the best out of Lara. The blame should be on the guys who are either unwilling to eat punches to get to the defensive guys, or the guys who are not good enough to actually land any effective punches.

Yes if boxers starts caring to put on a show win or lose. That wouldn't be bad at all, that would be a boon for the sport as a whole. In UFC, Dana White gives them some incentive if they perform sensationally well in that night. He's got rewards for best submission of the night, best performance of the night such and such. So most UFC fighters take into account the bonus they will get if they get a really sensational performance. In boxing, there's no such immediate incentive, payment is already arranged so it's really up to the boxers. I guess some ATGs like Ray Leonard, Ali, Roy Jones wanted to intentionally put on a show for the fans no matter what. Some boxers like Tyson are just highlight reel by default because of their punching prowess.

Of you run you're mouth during the build up You should deliver imo

floyd is the cash cow and don't care the fans and he even admitted that he's a rich coward.

They don’t and they shouldn’t really.

No fan, No $$$$ No $$$$, No honey Most guys would love to give their fans a great show but in their minds, ''winning is the thing. Let the fans boo.'' In almost every other industry the mantra is "the customer is always right." Not in boxing, though. Promoters seldom make the fights fans want. And there are boxers that don't care if the people who paid to see them get good value for their money.

No fan, No $$$$ No $$$$, No honey Most guys would love to give their fans a great show but in their minds, ''winning is the thing. Let the fans boo.''

No, it's their job. It's just businesses. That said, they shouldn't cry about other boxers 'ducking' them if they don't want to fight them because they are not draws due to their styles. He's one of my favorites, but Rigo is the best example of that. Andrade is another one.

Also, I hate that people called fans "casuals" for not appreciating the "pugilistic skill on display" in the Pacquiao Mayweather fight. Erm...no...it was hyped as the next fight of the century. It was a boring snooze-fest. Don't hype up a fight, bore us all to death and then call people casuals for not enjoying the fight. Wankers.

I will only ever watch fighters who are going for a KO or will go for a KO if they can. Gatti, RJJ, Hamed, Tyson, Fury, Wilder, AJ, Ali, Froch, Pacman, Duran, SRL, Hagler, Hearns etc... I don't watch fighters who want to win purely on points, meaning they won't even go for the KO when they can. Does that make me a casual? Yes. Do I care? Nope. “Boxing is entertainment, so to be successful a fighter must not only win but he must win in an exciting manner. He must throw punches with bad intentions.” — Cus D'Amato

Not the boxer’s so much. The networks and promoters should, especially when it comes to the matchups.

I think I agree mostly with the Mendoza, Johnson, Ali, Mayweather, hell even Mike Tyson, approach. Be the thing people hate right now and you'll make the most money, and, be called GOAT by many after you retire. So listen, kinda, but not following directions. :lol1: Paul boys a good example Bil Yes! the "heal" strategy! America loves a great villian! Even though Tyson said it with a lisp... When he told ole dudley doright Lewis "I wanna eat yo kids!" it was shocking!

That's a good point about the Paul Brothers. They've been able to come out of the gate and sell more PPVs than someone like Terence Crawford. All because they cater to their fans. I mean if you deconstruct the Paul brothers... its really amusing. Its all based on their social media presence. Then you take a guy like Wilder, Fury, Crawford, Haney... these are all interesting individuals with stories to tell. They would be able to captivate many more fans than two brothers who are typical, not very interesting, not very bright, not really matinee idol looking... I mean lol, my wife remembers De La Hoya! Im guessing it is not for his ability to counter punch well!

I think the fans are right in this case - and had Haney not fought at the faster pace, he may have been outpointed ...the scores were close and that was with Haney fighting at an extra gear. Linares is a very good offensive fighter and Haney had to show a better baseline offense/pace which he did before getting hurt. Well... One announcer stated Haney had "the best jab in boxing" and I would not go that far lol... But he has an incredible jab and I think he could have had an easy night focusing on that jab. He chose to do something rare these days... he made adjustments to take risks to prove a point. I think Haney has a great little secret: Hes smart enough to know losing a fight is not a big deal when you are still basically a kid. At Tank's age, it will become all about that goose egg, until he gets in the ring and: 1) his power does not carry up (Hello big brother Broner lol) or, 2) he deals with a real good boxer who has reach over him. If these things happen now Tank would be better off imo. Another few years, at around 28-30 it will be "getting exposed." but Haney is 22 years old! He is learning. he can make adjustments. He has this whole time frame to grow into his weight class, or above, and to develop as a fighter. He does not depend on his power... So moving up should also be easier.

I think the fans are right in this case - and had Haney not fought at the faster pace, he may have been outpointed ...the scores were close and that was with Haney fighting at an extra gear. Linares is a very good offensive fighter and Haney had to show a better baseline offense/pace which he did before getting hurt.