Wilder doesn't want the fight

You think they are treated as second class. They think they are treated like queens. It's a matter of perspective. and I suppose the journalist chopped up thought to himself "well I guess I shouldn't have been disrespectful, Im down with the wood shredder type treatment" and this is also a matter of perspective? I have too much respect for you considering some of the true idiots that have gained a foothold here to not humor you... I will concede this point, perhaps our response to these issues should be to boycott societies that do such things and not claim the moral high ground. I would be in favor of not commenting on what I consider treatment unbecoming, if my society would boycott... but we don't and we pretend money is a balm that soothes all qualms.

You can't quantify violence... Its a matter of human rights, being given opportunities, not being punished for rapes initiated by men, etc and yes... with all the horrors we have a free press. I can choose to comment on the press, and there are still real "liberals" who fight for freedom of the press. Censorship can be confronted in some societies, and not in others. This is fundamental. No its not perfect... and certainly women in this country given their freedoms, abuse those freedoms at times. Still, most people would take that hit, perhaps for you, women being treated like second class citizens is acceptable, to each his own. You think they are treated as second class. They think they are treated like queens. It's a matter of perspective.

I hope no one pays his off, I want Fury to batter him again and we never see the idiot again I really don't like Wilder for loads of reasons, his ducking, lies, excuses etc, but Fury is a massive bell too and I'm sick of his lies and big mouth no action. I wish AJ was the one to batter him but Fury is sneaky clever and will never fight Joshua. I think this is a win win for me, as I don't like either guy.

I hope Wilder comes in this fight back again under 220. I don’t think he will beat Fury but you never know with his right hand. if he is light like his usually weight I think he can maybe keep Fury off him and last the distance.

Wilder is a clown whether he takes the fight or not. Just a bum really. Not really the topic of this thread though, is it ?

Free press :lol1: Please behave. More women violence take place in the U.S than in Saudi. look that up. You can't quantify violence... Its a matter of human rights, being given opportunities, not being punished for rapes initiated by men, etc and yes... with all the horrors we have a free press. I can choose to comment on the press, and there are still real "liberals" who fight for freedom of the press. Censorship can be confronted in some societies, and not in others. This is fundamental. No its not perfect... and certainly women in this country given their freedoms, abuse those freedoms at times. Still, most people would take that hit, perhaps for you, women being treated like second class citizens is acceptable, to each his own.

Weird that you say that because I am a Wilder fan and I'm very excited for this rematch to happen BUT I don't think Wilder think it's the right timing. He is kind of lost mentally/emotionally, finding the right mind state and situation. We'll see though, I'll be going wild watching the fight.

well, if a free press, the treatment of women is debatable to you, we can agree to disagree. Free press :lol1: Please behave. More women violence take place in the U.S than in Saudi. look that up.

Were talking about a country whose government kidnapped its own journalist, killed and dismembered him for talking badly about the Prince, a country that's interjecting itself in a civil war to fight its geopolitical rival's proxy because of religion despite the majority being Shia in Yemen, a country that exports extreme wahhabism, a sect so repugnant the Turks tried to eliminate it, to the rest of world so that they can keep power. A country that encourages slavery in both Libya and Mauritania and purchases slaves from those countries. Finally a country whose rulers made back room deals with the British even sold their people out just so their house would rule instead of the Hashemites. The United States has a spotty record but compared on things we know Saudi Arabia did and things that are under the rug it makes the United States look like a respectable nation. The US make Saudi Arabia seem like childhood shenanigans. The only difference is people don't know they shit they do.

I'm sorry, Saudi is not what you've read in some ultra article. Read here: https://www.quora.com/How-is-it-to-be-a-woman-in-Saudi-Arabia America has insanely huge problems in all areas, women, children, men, black, yellow and white. You have zero space to talk negatively about other people. well, if a free press, the treatment of women is debatable to you, we can agree to disagree.

Id love a 3rd fight but only after wilder beats some decent fighters first to restore fearsome reputation. Because after losing to fury he's become a bum and everyone claiming they'd beat him. It's like if fury wins again it's no big deal as it's only wilder

I'm sorry, Saudi is not what you've read in some ultra article. Read here: https://www.quora.com/How-is-it-to-b...n-Saudi-Arabia America has insanely huge problems in all areas, women, children, men, black, yellow and white. You have zero space to talk negatively about other people. Were talking about a country whose government kidnapped its own journalist, killed and dismembered him for talking badly about the Prince, a country that's interjecting itself in a civil war to fight its geopolitical rival's proxy because of religion despite the majority being Shia in Yemen, a country that exports extreme wahhabism, a sect so repugnant the Turks tried to eliminate it, to the rest of world so that they can keep power. A country that encourages slavery in both Libya and Mauritania and purchases slaves from those countries. Finally a country whose rulers made back room deals with the British even sold their people out just so their house would rule instead of the Hashemites. The United States has a spotty record but compared on things we know Saudi Arabia did and things that are under the rug it makes the United States look like a respectable nation.

Really? Women treated like Chatel, kid's hands cut off for stealing food... And nationality as in a nation, not a race. I wouldn't say some Koreans are c h i n k s but to say North Korea is despotic is acceptable. America has problems as well, but I would take issue with that statement. I'm sorry, Saudi is not what you've read in some ultra article. Read here: https://www.quora.com/How-is-it-to-be-a-woman-in-Saudi-Arabia America has insanely huge problems in all areas, women, children, men, black, yellow and white. You have zero space to talk negatively about other people.

idiotic to suggest someone's nationality determines how they are as individuals. more pieces of **** come out of america than saudi. Really? Women treated like Chatel, kid's hands cut off for stealing food... And nationality as in a nation, not a race. I wouldn't say some Koreans are c h i n k s but to say North Korea is despotic is acceptable. America has problems as well, but I would take issue with that statement.

Some of these declarations are FAF ''BJS Gonna Beat The Breaks Off Of Nelo'' was another doozy :lol1: Wilder is a clown whether he takes the fight or not. Just a bum really.

Because the saudis are such fine upstanding individuals right? idiotic to suggest someone's nationality determines how they are as individuals. more pieces of shit come out of america than saudi.

If Hearn had waited for the arbitration to be settled up before trying to make the undisputed fight, these jokers would have spent the last 6 months ripping him and AJ for using it as an excuse to duck Fury. Pretty much, I mean everyone went with what Arum said, Warren, Hearn, Fury himself etc all of us. So not sure why Hearn would spend months wasting his time if he knew the end result would be Fury/Wilder 3…. not just working with the Saudis but having to ask the different organisations to push back mandatories etc… Just because his client has always chase the undisputed fight.

I don’t get that Hearn angle myself. Arum phucked up but I kept seeing Hearn name everywhere. It’s like this man live in their brains 247 :rolleyes: If Hearn had waited for the arbitration to be settled up before trying to make the undisputed fight, these jokers would have spent the last 6 months ripping him and AJ for using it as an excuse to duck Fury.

But Fury never wanted to fight Wilder. There still would have been an arbitration ruling in May, and Fury would still be tied up right now. After the ruling, the earliest Fury will fight again would be November/December when Joshua will be free again too. Nothing Hearn could have done would change that. Joshua's career didn't go on hold. He fought a mandatory in December once they could get a few fans back in. He'll likely fight another mandatory in the middle of the year, when he couldn't possibly be fighting Fury because Fury lost the arbitration! No-one of this is about Hearn, and his fighter is still fighting the fights he would have if they hadn't gone into any negotiation with Fury. So what did this big mistake by Eddie cost? Joshua is exactly where he would be regardless. Meanwhile Fury and Wilder have sat out 15 months over a contract dispute. I don’t get that Hearn angle myself. Arum phucked up but I kept seeing Hearn name everywhere. It’s like this man live in their brains 247 :rolleyes:

No sense in arguing over a 3rd fight that's about to happen :lol1: What time was wasted and who's to blame is no longer relevant.