Is anyone actually surprised Fury-AJ has fallen apart?

You didn't answer one of my questions... who should Eddie/AJ have been negotiating with? You can't just wait. Should they not try to make the all important fight when there's a brief window of opportunity? What would the response have been if they weren't trying to make that fight? Of course there was a risk negotiating with Fury during a court case. But I'm not sure it was greater than the risk at any other time of Fury just withdrawing, or retiring, or having a physical or mental breakdown. If he's healthy and saying he wants the fight, try to fight him. You'd have to wonder what the appetite will be like in the future. I reckon Undisputed is gone now... which tells me it was worth having this crack at it. Thought it was rhetorical, Eddie should've been working to make the Usyk fight - yeah the fans wouldn't be happy and there'd still be talk of duck this and duck that but ultimately, if Eddie made it clear that Fury's in the middle of a court battle that could hinder the fight while AJ has a mandatory, both fighters are tied up. Have the Usyk fight, by that time it'd be clear what's happening with Fury and Wilder, once that's out of the way revisit Fury-Joshua for the end of the year. Don't spend months telling the world that the fight is a done deal when it wasn't. That's my criticism of Eddie, he misled and lied multiple times saying it's been signed when it hadn't. I just find it hard to believe that he and everyone at matchroom, his lawyers, advisers etc thought it was good timing to proceed with this fight and didn't consider arbitration getting in the way - if they say, 'we knew and decided it was worth the risk.' Fine, but then why did you not bring this up at all in the last few months you've been telling us the fight is on? I'll say it again, the camp that lied and misled the most was definitely Fury's, especially with that ridiculous IG post at the end. The fight is not happening because Fury tried to get out of the third Wilder fight when he could've had it in December and we'd be talking about AJ-Fury this July. That doesn't mean Eddie was being honest or transparent during this process and it also doesn't mean he never misled throughout. I think provided AJ gets past Usyk and Fury gets rid of Wilder, the appetite for the fight will be the same as it is now. I'm just not sure how either side will play it, will they put all the bullshit aside and work to make the fight because of the money involved and importance to the sport or will they continue with their childish and manipulative games through the media?

I believe it will happen eventually but I'm not surprised it has fallen through at this time. It was never made official, arbitration was still ongoing, Arum and Fury had some negative things to say so I always thought it was kinda 50/50 at this stage.

Your proof Hearn said this fight was done in June 2020 literally was him saying "They do have intermediate fights. There is Dillian Whyte as a mandatory as well, but always the most difficult part of any deal is getting two parties to agree to the financial elements of the deal." I'm not a fan of any promoter, your bizarre, frankly deluded opinion that its Hearn's fault in some way this fight isn't happening when its obvious to anyone with half a brain or no bias that the problem is completely with Arum/Fury side, might be time to question which of those issues it is effecting you. Where did I say it was Hearn’s fault? :lol1: What I said was he, along with others, lied to the public for 11 months and failed to deliver this fight. Which clearly they did as the fight is NOT HAPPENING. Whether he said “done”, “ happening”, “it’s on” etc. For 11 months Eddie Hearn implied this fight was happening and evidently it wasn’t. That’s called lying. Instead of desperately trying to defend Hearn just look at the facts… nobody can deny Hearn, Arum, Fury, AJ and everyone else involve all mislead the public for almost an entire year.

I agree with this sentiment but negotiating with a 'character' hasn't got much to do with what I asked: So you think it's a good idea to negotiate a fight with a fighter going through a court battle for not honoring a contractual obligation with another fighter just because its 'the biggest fight' Yeah Fury's unpredictable and has proven to be dishonest on more than one occasion, regardless of any of that he was in the middle of a court battle with Wilder for not honouring his contractual obligations to fight him a third time, there was always a possibility that he would be ordered to fight Wilder again. Regardless of his character, is it a good idea to negotiate a fight with someone who's in the middle of legal proceedings and may be ordered to fight someone else? Do you not find it strange that Eddie and matchroom are claiming they didn't even consider or anticipate that the arbitration hearing may stop AJ-Fury from happening? Would it have not been much smarter to wait for that outcome before spending nearly 3-4 months telling the world the fight is done? That's all I'm saying here. Fury ****ed up big time by trying to bypass the Wilder fight which has caused such a delay not only for him and AJ but guys like Usyk and Joyce who've been waiting around for this so they know what they're doing next. The worst part is, if AJ has Usyk next, it's not a foregone conclusion he wins that and regardless of what most are saying, Wilder still has a shot against Fury. This fight might be completely dead because of Fury and his team's dishonesty and dodgy practices. All that doesn't absolve Eddie of any wrongdoing and my last few posts are merely pointing out (to the people who say he shouldn't be criticized at all) where Eddie messed up and misled. You didn't answer one of my questions... who should Eddie/AJ have been negotiating with? You can't just wait. Should they not try to make the all important fight when there's a brief window of opportunity? What would the response have been if they weren't trying to make that fight? Of course there was a risk negotiating with Fury during a court case. But I'm not sure it was greater than the risk at any other time of Fury just withdrawing, or retiring, or having a physical or mental breakdown. If he's healthy and saying he wants the fight, try to fight him. You'd have to wonder what the appetite will be like in the future. I reckon Undisputed is gone now... which tells me it was worth having this crack at it.

You could argue it's never worth negotiating with Fury. There's always a high chance things will fall apart. But who should AJ's team have been negotiating with? Usyk? Charles Martin? Lovejoy? Charr? It's boxing. At some point you're going to have to deal with these characters to get big fights made. I agree with this sentiment but negotiating with a 'character' hasn't got much to do with what I asked: So you think it's a good idea to negotiate a fight with a fighter going through a court battle for not honoring a contractual obligation with another fighter just because its 'the biggest fight' Yeah Fury's unpredictable and has proven to be dishonest on more than one occasion, regardless of any of that he was in the middle of a court battle with Wilder for not honouring his contractual obligations to fight him a third time, there was always a possibility that he would be ordered to fight Wilder again. Regardless of his character, is it a good idea to negotiate a fight with someone who's in the middle of legal proceedings and may be ordered to fight someone else? Do you not find it strange that Eddie and matchroom are claiming they didn't even consider or anticipate that the arbitration hearing may stop AJ-Fury from happening? Would it have not been much smarter to wait for that outcome before spending nearly 3-4 months telling the world the fight is done? That's all I'm saying here. Fury fucked up big time by trying to bypass the Wilder fight which has caused such a delay not only for him and AJ but guys like Usyk and Joyce who've been waiting around for this so they know what they're doing next. The worst part is, if AJ has Usyk next, it's not a foregone conclusion he wins that and regardless of what most are saying, Wilder still has a shot against Fury. This fight might be completely dead because of Fury and his team's dishonesty and dodgy practices. All that doesn't absolve Eddie of any wrongdoing and my last few posts are merely pointing out (to the people who say he shouldn't be criticized at all) where Eddie messed up and misled.

So you think it's a good idea to negotiate a fight with a fighter going through a court battle for not honoring a contractual obligation with another fighter just because its 'the biggest fight'? You could argue it's never worth negotiating with Fury. There's always a high chance things will fall apart. But who should AJ's team have been negotiating with? Usyk? Charles Martin? Lovejoy? Charr? It's boxing. At some point you're going to have to deal with these characters to get big fights made.

I've criticized Fury a lot during this process, look at my first response to this thread. The problem on this site is there are too many fanboys that can't look at things objectively and think whatever side they're on can do no wrong. So you think it's a good idea to negotiate a fight with a fighter going through a court battle for not honoring a contractual obligation with another fighter just because its 'the biggest fight'? You're asking why is it stupid and naive to try and make a fight with a fighter who may be ordered to honor his contract to fight someone else? If you can't see why that's stupid and don't find it hard to believe that they didn't even consider the arbitration to be a potential roadblock then you're a bigger Hearn fanboy than I thought. AJ definitely has the right to be pissed but for a guy that is always playing the 'bigger man' and proudly proclaiming that he doesn't trash talk and 'less talk more action' seemed to throw all that away as soon as it was confirmed that he won't be fighting Fury, just an interesting and questionable development. @ your third bold comment: you're speculating here just as much as me. @ your fourth bold comment: a day after Warren said Fury hasn't signed yet, Hearn went on Sky news to say it's a done deal, Aug 14th, Saudi. Again, if you don't think that's misleading then your blinded by your fandom of Eddie Hearn. He spent months telling everyone the fight's a done deal when it wasn't even close and you don't think that's misleading and questionable? Finally, please stop being a fanboy of a promoter, it's really weird. Waste of time...

I've been a Fury fan for a long time. I just think his behaviour post Wlad has been well below champ material. It baffles me that people still fall for it. Pulled out of a rematch with Wlad Tested positive for PEDs Pulled out of an ordered rematch v Wilder Requested and then pulled out of an ordered Diamond fight with Whyte Pulled out of a contracted rematch (seemingly) with Wilder Failed to defend a belt. Ever. Yet somehow he's the lineal champion, the best in the division, the champion destroyer, the mental health hero... How much more do you need to see? Is anyone starting to contemplate that maybe he's just all the things that you see - someone who pulls out of fights, takes PEDs, breaks contracts, and doesn't defend his belts like a champion should. It's all there right in front of you. All parties have confirmed there is a contract sitting there waiting to be signed. If he pulls out, he's pulled out. And I say 'duck'. He hasn't been ordered to fight Wilder. He's been ordered to fight him or pay damages for beach of contract. His choice now. Fury's team might be disappointed by the outcome, but they won't be completely blindsided. They knew this was a possibility - now we wait to hear what they have to say. Great post! the damages his team would have to pay would be less than any step aside money anyway. There may also be an avenue for appeal. Either way, the AJ fight can go ahead if Fury wants it...he doesn't. Reminds me how many top 10 guys he has fought in the last 5 years? As I posted earlier, AJ should simply freeze Fury out.

Another one... You're first line is its Team Furys fault and then gone on a massive rampage about Hearn haha. If you actually follow the steps and the articles that the OP actually put up it explains quite clearly. From my understanding they signed late last year pending a site deal and "finer points" being agreed. I believe the thing which took the longest was the final contract with the site deal on it, I'm imagining this is due to the Saudi's being relatively inexperienced in boxing and the fact that is is such a big deal - Hearn is damned if he does or damned if he doesn't. If he gives no info fans jump on him about why the fight isn't being negotiated if he does then he is "misleading". First bold point - how are they stupid and naive for trying to make the biggest fight in boxing fully committed? They were reassured it was not a problem, they will not have access to the legal documents regarding Fury-Wilder. However even if they did/do and they knew the implications I'm sure they would have still risked it to make the biggest fight in boxing. Furthermore, Joshua was out last December and will prob be out again in Aug as planned - pretty normal turnaround for him (maybe slightly long) still going to make a tonne of money in a big fight against a highly skilled star. Second bold point, he doesn't have a right to be pissed? I don't think he's talking because he now doesn't have to fight Fury, crazy insinuation but you're entitled to your opinion I guess. Third bold, conspiracy theory? Boring, maybe Fury's side knew things were not looking good, maybe that was filtered back to Team Joshua, but I doubt it. I think they were all taken back by the decision. Fourth bold, again its pretty normal for the guy who is actually dealing with the site has the most information. It did take longer than they all anticipated I'm sure, but if you go back and watch Frank Warren's last interview before the Wilder stuff he admits that the site contract is there and the fight is close to done. The only thing Hearn is guilty of, is being a massive blabber mouth, which in a lot of cases is a big part of his job. I don't think you can blame him for fight collapse at all - with the ruling this was always going to hit a wall I've criticized Fury a lot during this process, look at my first response to this thread. The problem on this site is there are too many fanboys that can't look at things objectively and think whatever side they're on can do no wrong. So you think it's a good idea to negotiate a fight with a fighter going through a court battle for not honoring a contractual obligation with another fighter just because its 'the biggest fight'? You're asking why is it stupid and naive to try and make a fight with a fighter who may be ordered to honor his contract to fight someone else? If you can't see why that's stupid and don't find it hard to believe that they didn't even consider the arbitration to be a potential roadblock then you're a bigger Hearn fanboy than I thought. AJ definitely has the right to be pissed but for a guy that is always playing the 'bigger man' and proudly proclaiming that he doesn't trash talk and 'less talk more action' seemed to throw all that away as soon as it was confirmed that he won't be fighting Fury, just an interesting and questionable development. @ your third bold comment: you're speculating here just as much as me. @ your fourth bold comment: a day after Warren said Fury hasn't signed yet, Hearn went on Sky news to say it's a done deal, Aug 14th, Saudi. Again, if you don't think that's misleading then your blinded by your fandom of Eddie Hearn. He spent months telling everyone the fight's a done deal when it wasn't even close and you don't think that's misleading and questionable? Finally, please stop being a fanboy of a promoter, it's really weird.

I completely agree that the blame should be on Fury and his team but you don't think Hearn deserves any criticism at all for this? Just two weeks ago Frank Warren said nothing's been signed and Hearn responded to that by going on Sky news to say the fight's a done deal and will be in Saudi on Aug 14th. He was doing a lot of misleading and pretty much announced the fight 3 times that week. You don't find it weird that Eddie went so hard for the fight (in the media at least) while Fury was in arbitration? 'Yeah but Arum said it'll be ok....' So not one adviser to Hearn, lawyer, his dad, not ONE person at matchroom thought that might jeopardize the fight? Do you believe that they just took Arum's word for it and literally thought it won't affect the fight? If that is the case, shouldn't some blame/criticism go on Hearn and matchroom for being so ****ing stupid and naive? Isn't it strange that AJ was all 'less talk more action' during this whole process, no trash talk at all until the fight is definitely off and suddenly he pipes up and starts chatting **** about Fury on social media? While I agree that ultimately, this fight isn't happening because of Fury and his team, the way this has played out makes me think that both sides knew it wasn't happening and did a lot of misleading during the whole process. Also, apart from that ridiculous ig post Fury put up a day before the fight was called off, his team were quite negative about the fight happening; Arum said it was dead in the water, Warren said nothing's been signed all while Hearn was doing press tours telling the whole world, repeatedly that it's most definitely on. He definitely deserves some blame and criticism for the amount of misleading he's done. Another one... You're first line is its Team Furys fault and then gone on a massive rampage about Hearn haha. If you actually follow the steps and the articles that the OP actually put up it explains quite clearly. From my understanding they signed late last year pending a site deal and "finer points" being agreed. I believe the thing which took the longest was the final contract with the site deal on it, I'm imagining this is due to the Saudi's being relatively inexperienced in boxing and the fact that is is such a big deal - Hearn is damned if he does or damned if he doesn't. If he gives no info fans jump on him about why the fight isn't being negotiated if he does then he is "misleading". First bold point - how are they stupid and naive for trying to make the biggest fight in boxing fully committed? They were reassured it was not a problem, they will not have access to the legal documents regarding Fury-Wilder. However even if they did/do and they knew the implications I'm sure they would have still risked it to make the biggest fight in boxing. Furthermore, Joshua was out last December and will prob be out again in Aug as planned - pretty normal turnaround for him (maybe slightly long) still going to make a tonne of money in a big fight against a highly skilled star. Second bold point, he doesn't have a right to be pissed? I don't think he's talking because he now doesn't have to fight Fury, crazy insinuation but you're entitled to your opinion I guess. Third bold, conspiracy theory? Boring, maybe Fury's side knew things were not looking good, maybe that was filtered back to Team Joshua, but I doubt it. I think they were all taken back by the decision. Fourth bold, again its pretty normal for the guy who is actually dealing with the site has the most information. It did take longer than they all anticipated I'm sure, but if you go back and watch Frank Warren's last interview before the Wilder stuff he admits that the site contract is there and the fight is close to done. The only thing Hearn is guilty of, is being a massive blabber mouth, which in a lot of cases is a big part of his job. I don't think you can blame him for fight collapse at all - with the ruling this was always going to hit a wall

Your proof Hearn said this fight was done in June 2020 literally was him saying "They do have intermediate fights. There is Dillian Whyte as a mandatory as well, but always the most difficult part of any deal is getting two parties to agree to the financial elements of the deal." I'm not a fan of any promoter, your bizarre, frankly deluded opinion that its Hearn's fault in some way this fight isn't happening when its obvious to anyone with half a brain or no bias that the problem is completely with Arum/Fury side, might be time to question which of those issues it is effecting you. I completely agree that the blame should be on Fury and his team but you don't think Hearn deserves any criticism at all for this? Just two weeks ago Frank Warren said nothing's been signed and Hearn responded to that by going on Sky news to say the fight's a done deal and will be in Saudi on Aug 14th. He was doing a lot of misleading and pretty much announced the fight 3 times that week. You don't find it weird that Eddie went so hard for the fight (in the media at least) while Fury was in arbitration? 'Yeah but Arum said it'll be ok....' So not one adviser to Hearn, lawyer, his dad, not ONE person at matchroom thought that might jeopardize the fight? Do you believe that they just took Arum's word for it and literally thought it won't affect the fight? If that is the case, shouldn't some blame/criticism go on Hearn and matchroom for being so fucking stupid and naive? Isn't it strange that AJ was all 'less talk more action' during this whole process, no trash talk at all until the fight is definitely off and suddenly he pipes up and starts chatting shit about Fury on social media? While I agree that ultimately, this fight isn't happening because of Fury and his team, the way this has played out makes me think that both sides knew it wasn't happening and did a lot of misleading during the whole process. Also, apart from that ridiculous ig post Fury put up a day before the fight was called off, his team were quite negative about the fight happening; Arum said it was dead in the water, Warren said nothing's been signed all while Hearn was doing press tours telling the whole world, repeatedly that it's most definitely on. He definitely deserves some blame and criticism for the amount of misleading he's done.

Your proof Hearn said this fight was done in June 2020 literally was him saying "They do have intermediate fights. There is Dillian Whyte as a mandatory as well, but always the most difficult part of any deal is getting two parties to agree to the financial elements of the deal." I'm not a fan of any promoter, your bizarre, frankly deluded opinion that its Hearn's fault in some way this fight isn't happening when its obvious to anyone with half a brain or no bias that the problem is completely with Arum/Fury side, might be time to question which of those issues it is effecting you. Don't waste your time with her, Eddie fucked his sister or something. He's been at it for years, very strange geezer. I completely agree with you btw those updates are clearly given with provisos.

I'm totally surprised wilder might get 3rd fight. In the real world covid has ruined the plans and lives of many day to day people. So why would anyone expect 3rd fight to go ahead as usual?

You’ve completely missed the point of this thread… What I’m saying is Hearn, Arum etc all lied to us for months by constantly implying the fight was happening, confirmed etc. They were evidently lying. You Hearn fans are crazy man, you’ll defend anything the man says or does. :lol1: Whether you choose to accept it or not, Hearn along with Arum and others FAILED to deliver this fight. That’s a matter of fact. Your proof Hearn said this fight was done in June 2020 literally was him saying "They do have intermediate fights. There is Dillian Whyte as a mandatory as well, but always the most difficult part of any deal is getting two parties to agree to the financial elements of the deal." I'm not a fan of any promoter, your bizarre, frankly deluded opinion that its Hearn's fault in some way this fight isn't happening when its obvious to anyone with half a brain or no bias that the problem is completely with Arum/Fury side, might be time to question which of those issues it is effecting you.

There are two parties responsible for the undisputed fight not happening now, Wilder for pursuing his rematch (rightfully as per contract apparently), and Arum/Fury for not handling that situation correctly. Would you also blame Hearn if the fight didn't happen because Top Rank's plane crashed on the way to Saudi Arabia? What Hearn could organise: Splits, Site, Site Fee, Broadcast Deals, Fighters Agreement. What Hearn couldn't organise: Fury's rematch clause & arbitration. What made the fight fall apart: Fury's rematch clause & arbitration. Starting to get the picture now? You’ve completely missed the point of this thread… What I’m saying is Hearn, Arum etc all lied to us for months by constantly implying the fight was happening, confirmed etc. They were evidently lying. You Hearn fans are crazy man, you’ll defend anything the man says or does. :lol1: Whether you choose to accept it or not, Hearn along with Arum and others FAILED to deliver this fight. That’s a matter of fact.

How did he deliver when the fight didn’t happen? :lol1: I’m not excusing Arum, Fury, AJ etc either. They all led the fans down the garden path. I’m just bemused you feel Hearn delivered when he negotiated a fight for 11+ months and that now isn’t happening. :lol1: There are two parties responsible for the undisputed fight not happening now, Wilder for pursuing his rematch (rightfully as per contract apparently), and Arum/Fury for not handling that situation correctly. Would you also blame Hearn if the fight didn't happen because Top Rank's plane crashed on the way to Saudi Arabia? What Hearn could organise: Splits, Site, Site Fee, Broadcast Deals, Fighters Agreement. What Hearn couldn't organise: Fury's rematch clause & arbitration. What made the fight fall apart: Fury's rematch clause & arbitration. Starting to get the picture now?

A lot of people are lying in this thread, I visit the boxingscene almost everyday and read the threads ; the majority dismissed Deontay Wilder based on the fact that the purses for A.J vs. Fury would be more than enough to pay any law suit against the Gypsy-Bum. No one expected that the judge would order a rematch. A good number of the boxingscene made fools out of themselves dissing the 'Bronze-Bomber', eat crow.

I still don't see Hearn saying the fight in done in June 2020, here is Hearn from the first one: Hearn added: "They do have intermediate fights. There is Dillian Whyte as a mandatory as well, but always the most difficult part of any deal is getting two parties to agree to the financial elements of the deal. "The aim for Anthony Joshua is to become the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world. He holds all the belts bar one, which is owned by Tyson Fury. So, if Tyson Fury was to lose to Deontay Wilder - which I can't see happening - then we would go straight into the Deontay Wilder fight for the undisputed championship. This is Hearn in the second one: He said: “We’ve just got to be a bit careful because you may be on the verge of saying: 'Lets just get rid of politics right now. “Let’s just drop all the belts because if we lose one belt, we might as well lose them all. We will do whatever we can to make sure that every belt in boxing is on the line in the Tyson Fury fight. Hearn in the third: “We’d like to get a site deal confirmed in the next month. “The hard part is always getting everybody to put pen to paper. "But this was a major effort from all parties to get this over the line. "You had rival promoters, rival networks and rival fighters. “I actually feel we’ve done the hard part." Again, kinda looks like Eddie actually delivered, and Arum/Fury couldn't manage a rematch clause to me? How did he deliver when the fight didn’t happen? :lol1: I’m not excusing Arum, Fury, AJ etc either. They all led the fans down the garden path. I’m just bemused you feel Hearn delivered when he negotiated a fight for 11+ months and that now isn’t happening. :lol1:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc...g/52997084.amp https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the...ly-agreed/amp/ “only minor issues to resolve” according to Eddie last December. :lol1: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/sport/boxing/14346207/anthony-joshua-tyson-fury-contracts-signed-confirmed/amp/ The fight “WILL go ahead” in March. :lol1: Eddie is more guilty than anyone for over-promising and consequently under-delivering. He was literally on Sky Sports News everyday telling everyone the “fight was on”. I still don't see Hearn saying the fight in done in June 2020, here is Hearn from the first one: Hearn added: "They do have intermediate fights. There is Dillian Whyte as a mandatory as well, but always the most difficult part of any deal is getting two parties to agree to the financial elements of the deal. "The aim for Anthony Joshua is to become the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world. He holds all the belts bar one, which is owned by Tyson Fury. So, if Tyson Fury was to lose to Deontay Wilder - which I can't see happening - then we would go straight into the Deontay Wilder fight for the undisputed championship. This is Hearn in the second one: He said: “We’ve just got to be a bit careful because you may be on the verge of saying: 'Lets just get rid of politics right now. “Let’s just drop all the belts because if we lose one belt, we might as well lose them all. We will do whatever we can to make sure that every belt in boxing is on the line in the Tyson Fury fight. Hearn in the third: “We’d like to get a site deal confirmed in the next month. “The hard part is always getting everybody to put pen to paper. "But this was a major effort from all parties to get this over the line. "You had rival promoters, rival networks and rival fighters. “I actually feel we’ve done the hard part." Again, kinda looks like Eddie actually delivered, and Arum/Fury couldn't manage a rematch clause to me?

Show me where Hearn said in June 2020 this fight was "done", I don't recall that. I really don't think anyone with more than a passing interest in this is blaming Hearn, and certainly not Joshua, seriously what could have he done differently. Have you ever worked on a large project, where there are multiple deliverables & parties involved (companies or departments etc), you can only do what you are tasked with, if you've done your job and an external party ****s the bed, thats on them. Its like if the project is to supply oil from a refinery to the port via a pipeline, you build the pipeline in time on budget which was your task and the other party responsible for the refinery didn't get legal approval for the refinery in time, the project failed. Any interested observer doesn't come away thinking company X can't build a pipeline, to the contrary, they come away thinking company Y can't manage a refinery, or in this case Bob Arum can't manage a rematch clause. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc...g/52997084.amp https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the...ly-agreed/amp/ “only minor issues to resolve” according to Eddie last December. :lol1: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/sport/boxing/14346207/anthony-joshua-tyson-fury-contracts-signed-confirmed/amp/ The fight “WILL go ahead” in March. :lol1: Eddie is more guilty than anyone for over-promising and consequently under-delivering. He was literally on Sky Sports News everyday telling everyone the “fight was on”.