Should Nevada and Texas reconsider allowing boxers to fight with casts on their hands?

It’s how it’s done everywhere in the world but two places and yes, yes I would. Brains are infinitely more important than hands. The sport is about hurting your opponent and Knocking them out. The risk of brain damage is a part of the sport, always had been. Fans don't tune in to see whos hands will break first. In fact, seeing a fighter break their hand is the worst because the fight is forced to end inconclusively. So there is nothing wrong with a boxer protecting their hands a little more. Also in these states both boxers can use the same wrap techniques. There is no advantage to either side. A boxer knows the risks and if they don't know how to protect themselves then they shouldn't take the fight. It's not like it's a secret only one side knows about. If two fighters agree to fight in these states then that is their decision, risk, and protection they choose to take.

I'd argue the sport has always been changing. Boxing now isn't like boxing in the beginning. Boxing now isn't like, my favorite era to compare it to in the past, the Dempsey era when you could hover over a downed opponent to hit him upon risen. Boxing has always been changing. Hell most sports make changes too. Sports have always evolved. Boxing should to & sometimes evolving involves going backwards when the old way is better than the new way upon further consideration. I agree. It might well be another epoche for the fight game.

you're making it out to be that in these states fighters are allowed casts on hands but not in others,they use the same wrap tape as everywhere else,& stacking just means you add an extra layer over the knuckles. Have you ever wrapped your hands with wrap tape?(actually probably not anyone on here because its for pros only usually) Trust me you've been misinformed if you think nsac allows casts on a fighters hands but elsewhere doesn't (Abel Sanxhez spreads a ton of misinformation.) Tape on the skin, then gauze and then tape. This is done around the hand and down passed the wrist. This technique is illegal everywhere but Nevada and Texas for a reason. It supports and stiffens the whole area particularly around the metacarpals which normally tend to flex and even sometimes break. This makes for a more efficient transfer of energy to the target. I included a picture of the hand in my first post of the thread. Nature didn’t design the fist to be a durable or efficient hammer.

Has absolutely nothing to do with the knuckles. you're making it out to be that in these states fighters are allowed casts on hands but not in others,they use the same wrap tape as everywhere else,& stacking just means you add an extra layer over the knuckles. Have you ever wrapped your hands with wrap tape?(actually probably not anyone on here because its for pros only usually) Trust me you've been misinformed if you think nsac allows casts on a fighters hands but elsewhere doesn't (Abel Sanxhez spreads a ton of misinformation.)

I told you,theres almost no difference between so called stacking or not,it literally amounts to 1 single extra layer of wrap over the knuckles(literally just wrapping it around 1 extra layer over the knuckle,its made out to be something nefarious when its actually minimal difference (thats why nsac allows it,its a matter of preference) Has absolutely nothing to do with the knuckles.

It’s how it’s done everywhere in the world but two places and yes, yes I would. Brains are infinitely more important than hands. I told you,theres almost no difference between so called stacking or not,it literally amounts to 1 single extra layer of wrap over the knuckles(literally just wrapping it around 1 extra layer over the knuckle,its made out to be something nefarious when its actually minimal difference (thats why nsac allows it,its a matter of preference)

So you'd rather have boxer risk breaking their hands than being able to hit slightly less harder? It’s how it’s done everywhere in the world but two places and yes, yes I would. Brains are infinitely more important than hands.

I wouldn't be opposed to the whole sport of boxing going no glove or going to a smaller glove. I think its ultimately safer although guys are more likely to have more superficial damage as one can witness in BKFC fights (with no gloves) or in MMA (with much smaller gloves). The sustained damage guys' brains take due to the padding of gloves is problematic for boxers long term health & sometimes their immediate health with severe & life threatening injuries on fight night. I've yet to see the amount of severe injuries & deaths in any year in BK fights or MMA fights like I see in boxing fights in any given year. The safety argument (hands, brain, etc) boxing puts forth is actually doing more to hurt fighters than I think they realize. Bare-knuckle boxing with the elite guys like Canelo etc you're dreaming never going to happen, be like taking the safety capsule out of a F1 car only a lot more than hands and faces are going to disintegrate, neither the hands nor the faces could stand up to the very best boxers they hit too hard and are too accurate.

It isn't just about Canelo. Canelo's last fight just perfectly illustrates a problem that goes back to Tito Trinidad and before that even. The wraps are against the rules everywhere but Texas and Nevada for a reason. They make a dangerous sport more dangerous. Bringing up bare knuckle fighting was more about using the other end of the spectrum as an example So you'd rather have boxer risk breaking their hands than being able to hit slightly less harder?

Should Nevada and Texas change their rules just because Canelo punches too hard with gloves and wraps? Naw. Switch to BKFC if you want to watch bareknuckle fights. It isn't just about Canelo. Canelo's last fight just perfectly illustrates a problem that goes back to Tito Trinidad and before that even. The wraps are against the rules everywhere but Texas and Nevada for a reason. They make a dangerous sport more dangerous. Bringing up bare knuckle fighting was more about using the other end of the spectrum as an example

You do realize that gloves actually are what cause way more blood/damage than bkf? Bare knuckle matches are terrible,boring rubbish imho,look at Paulina Magliani vs that mma bum as an example. Bare knuckle fights suck because a fighter cannot hit their opponent in the head without it hurting their hands worse than the opponents. Without gloves boxing would be the safest joke sport on earth,hardly going to get banned when the fighters barely punch each other in the face. Mma gloves on the other hand should be banned imho,theres a reason those fighters careers don't last & they constantly break eyes/jaws at a far worse rate than boxing its because the gloves they use protect the hands while being hard af still with minimal padding.(mma gloves are basically the perfect weapon to kill someone in the ring, someone like ggg/Canelo would probably kill opponents in a 12 rd fight with those gloves,mma fighters are able to punch hard af Because the gloves don't weigh much either,when they put on boxing gloves they punch softer than Pauli) As for protecting fighters like Floyds brittle hands I think thats a good thing,we shouldn't want fighters to break their hands should we? Kush your exxagerating the aspects that would hold a fighter back. Fighters would look like preclassical boxers because the original gloves were smaller and one could still transfer energy directly from the hand to opponent with these gloves. You don't have the talent in bare knuckles, so you are seeing guys who are second rate boxers... if very talented men were fighting you would see a lot of excitement. Punches have to be more accurate, thats the game for bare knuckle. In boxing one needs to use tremendous force because of the gloves, it changes punching mechanics. Targets change as well. in professional gloved prize fighting, the jaw is the prized target... One swings the cross like a hammer across in an effort to whiplash the opponent with a jaw shot. It bare knuckle, the main target is the chin. One seeks to catch the opponent right on the chin tip for the KO. Where as the jaw shot takes lots of force and is primerily concussive, the shot to the chin works because the brain has nowhere to rebound and just short circuits with little force. Instead of a lot of trauma and the brain rocking, the brain stem is hit, the body just shuts down.

I wouldn't be opposed to the whole sport of boxing going no glove or going to a smaller glove. I think its ultimately safer although guys are more likely to have more superficial damage as one can witness in BKFC fights (with no gloves) or in MMA (with much smaller gloves). The sustained damage guys' brains take due to the padding of gloves is problematic for boxers long term health & sometimes their immediate health with severe & life threatening injuries on fight night. I've yet to see the amount of severe injuries & deaths in any year in BK fights or MMA fights like I see in boxing fights in any given year. The safety argument (hands, brain, etc) boxing puts forth is actually doing more to hurt fighters than I think they realize. This is a complicated issue. Your right to imply that there are some misunderstandings about the relative merits of padded gloves. There are real severe differences when you make the hand itself the generator of the force, and not a glove. best way to illustrate this is to learn about a wing chun punch. then hit your friend with enough force to see how this punch can do damage, without causing damage... for example, watch a tutorial on the vertical punch, hit friend on the chest, or chin, so one can feel the transfer of energy. Inevitably both of you will see that the punch thrown hard is damaging. Now... put on boxing gloves, do the same punch... Nothing! There is no transfer of real power. Gloves change the way one has to punch to cause damage. Its why boxing looks so different preclassical. Without gloves your concerns are different: Not to break hand, to hit with accuracy, to protect the point of the chin, more than the jaw... etc. The sport will change quite a bit.

Should Nevada and Texas change their rules just because Canelo punches too hard with gloves and wraps? Naw. Switch to BKFC if you want to watch bareknuckle fights.

Do I realize that gloves actually are what cause way more damage than bkf? That was my point, actually... and it follows therefore that protecting fighters hands at the expense of their opponents brains is probably not all good. The casts that Canelo wears on his hands are dangerous and should be banned, as they are by every athletic commission that isn't Texas and Nevada. This is my other point. 1st off Texas & Nevada are the best in the world at what they do.(despite Texas having bad judges in the past,Nsac spends more on these things than anyone else) The casts that every single fighter wears you mean to say(Canelo uses the same rapping techniques as every other fighter despite what Abel Sánchez tried to claim(he has shows he didn't know wtf hes talking about (every commission allows different rules slightly(because the rules makes very lil difference). (A fighters hand's should not break for any reason in a boxing match at this level,period. Their hands not breaking is not at the expense to their opponents head. Thats fallacy,boxing is a sport where only fists are allowed,the fighters wrap their hands for a reason, punching ppl in the face for a living would lead to all top fighters retiring young if not for handwraps.(that said Nsac rules allow the same exact thing all commissions allow as far as hand wraps go anyways(if you can prove me wrong go ahead)(Everytime Canelo wraps his hands hes in presence of nsac commissioner who is the best in the business at what he does) ​​​​​​ It sounds like you're listening to abel sanchez who had never fought in vegas before Canelo & is not an expert at handwraps.(he was smalltime before then) (he was accusing Canelo of stacking which we don't know is true,(the commission keeps all wraps after the fight)(so called stacking makes no damn difference anyways,& ggg was free to use the same exact wrapping techniques like everyone else can) Very lil of wrap goes on the inside of the palm,thats why all a wrap can do by default is protect the knuckles.

You do realize that gloves actually are what cause way more blood/damage than bkf? Bare knuckle matches are terrible,boring rubbish imho,look at Paulina Magliani vs that mma bum as an example. Bare knuckle fights suck because a fighter cannot hit their opponent in the head without it hurting their hands worse than the opponents. Without gloves boxing would be the safest joke sport on earth,hardly going to get banned when the fighters barely punch each other in the face. Mma gloves on the other hand should be banned imho,theres a reason those fighters careers don't last & they constantly break eyes/jaws at a far worse rate than boxing its because the gloves they use protect the hands while being hard af still with minimal padding.(mma gloves are basically the perfect weapon to kill someone in the ring, someone like ggg/Canelo would probably kill opponents in a 12 rd fight with those gloves,mma fighters are able to punch hard af Because the gloves don't weigh much either,when they put on boxing gloves they punch softer than Pauli) As for protecting fighters like Floyds brittle hands I think thats a good thing,we shouldn't want fighters to break their hands should we? Do I realize that gloves actually are what cause way more damage than bkf? That was my point, actually... and it follows therefore that protecting fighters hands at the expense of their opponents brains is probably not all good. The casts that Canelo wears on his hands are dangerous and should be banned, as they are by every athletic commission that isn't Texas and Nevada. This is my other point.

Agreed. Bare knuckle fighting would be bloody as hell, the public, in their ignorance, would likely move to ban the sport completely, even though it would be safer in the long run. Bare knuckle fighting or even less padded gloves would probably save a lot of fighters from brain damage and dementia, pretty much the opposite of what transforming their hands into indestructible weapons is doing. You do realize that gloves actually are what cause way more blood/damage than bkf? Bare knuckle matches are terrible,boring rubbish imho,look at Paulina Magliani vs that mma bum as an example. Bare knuckle fights suck because a fighter cannot hit their opponent in the head without it hurting their hands worse than the opponents. Without gloves boxing would be the safest joke sport on earth,hardly going to get banned when the fighters barely punch each other in the face. Mma gloves on the other hand should be banned imho,theres a reason those fighters careers don't last & they constantly break eyes/jaws at a far worse rate than boxing its because the gloves they use protect the hands while being hard af still with minimal padding.(mma gloves are basically the perfect weapon to kill someone in the ring, someone like ggg/Canelo would probably kill opponents in a 12 rd fight with those gloves,mma fighters are able to punch hard af Because the gloves don't weigh much either,when they put on boxing gloves they punch softer than Pauli) As for protecting fighters like Floyds brittle hands I think thats a good thing,we shouldn't want fighters to break their hands should we?

I wouldn't be opposed to the whole sport of boxing going no glove or going to a smaller glove. I think its ultimately safer although guys are more likely to have more superficial damage as one can witness in BKFC fights (with no gloves) or in MMA (with much smaller gloves). The sustained damage guys' brains take due to the padding of gloves is problematic for boxers long term health & sometimes their immediate health with severe & life threatening injuries on fight night. I've yet to see the amount of severe injuries & deaths in any year in BK fights or MMA fights like I see in boxing fights in any given year. The safety argument (hands, brain, etc) boxing puts forth is actually doing more to hurt fighters than I think they realize. Agreed. Bare knuckle fighting would be bloody as hell, the public, in their ignorance, would likely move to ban the sport completely, even though it would be safer in the long run. Bare knuckle fighting or even less padded gloves would probably save a lot of fighters from brain damage and dementia, pretty much the opposite of what transforming their hands into indestructible weapons is doing.

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