Plant in 2021? But not Andrade in 2019?

Imagine ducking a man who's best opponent was "Kottonduckwah".

Yup this is what happened. Andrades own network didn't want him to fight canelo. Even then, canelo got stripped of the ibf because the negotiations with derevyanchenko fell through. So it wouldn't have been Undisputed. This is true. I believe at the time they wanted to do the Andrade fight in September then circle back to the Derv fight in December. Then Derv takes the same money to lose to GGG and that was the end of that.

Yea but Plant is boring. Saunders obviously didn't have that same kind of confidence against Boo Boo or else he wouldn't have cheated and pulled out. Well said. Facts!!

They approved Kovalev, who didn't even fight on DAZN. Andrade did fight on DAZN. Kovalev is quite a bit bigger name than Andrade and using the 2 weight class jump as a selling point obviously brings more casuals to the table. That's simple business strategy on DAZN part.

Both sides confirmed there were talks in summer of 2019 for a September unification fight for Canelo vs Andrade. Problem was DAZN was trying to force the GGG trilogy as Oscar De La Hoya had told them he could get Canelo to do it when they were signing GGG. DAZN told Canelo they wouldn’t approve any opponent other than GGG. Had DAZN not gotten in the way Canelo would have whipped Andrade’s ass and unified 160. Once that was no longer an option he left 160 behind and focused on 168. Now you know. Yup this is what happened. Andrades own network didn't want him to fight canelo. Even then, canelo got stripped of the ibf because the negotiations with derevyanchenko fell through. So it wouldn't have been Undisputed.

Someone needs to make a thread about all the times Bud stepped up to the plate :lol1: Well done, me :)

Let me check Andrade's resume . . . boxrec . . . . nothing there tells me he deserves a Canelo payday.... Andrade and his minions can yap all day but it is only Andrade who is to blame . . . Canelo ducked him at 160lbs? sure if they think so...but who did Andrade fight after that? Again when you diss Andrade's resume you are also saying Canelo hasn't fought nobody.

Someone needs to make a thread about all the times Bud stepped up to the plate :lol1:

Let me check Andrade's resume . . . boxrec . . . . nothing there tells me he deserves a Canelo payday.... Andrade and his minions can yap all day but it is only Andrade who is to blame . . . Canelo ducked him at 160lbs? sure if they think so...but who did Andrade fight after that?

I love it when a ''fight fan'' gets all in a huff over another fighters business but won't GO INTO DETAIL with their own guys business decisions :lol1: !

It's important that Plant has something Canelo wants. A 4th belt for undisputed at 168. But let's rewind the clock 2 years. Canelo had just beat Danny Jacobs. He held the WBA, WBC, and IBF belts at 160. Demetrius Andrade held the WBO. Canelo could have gone for undisputed then by fighting Demetrius Andrade, but he chose not to. Why does undisputed matter now but not back then? Aim that same critical mirror at Bud

I respect that. It's always nice when someone can have a favorite boxer, but holds them accountable. Keeps the sport alive. Thanks bro appreciate that. If I'm gonna criticize Canelo I have to do the same to my own favorite fighters. Even though I have my problems with Canelo, at least he is giving us good fights against great fighters, even if they're not the fighters I want to see. My fighters right now aren't doing any of that. Right now I'm just defending Andrade the hardest because of what happened this last weekend, and it's not just Canelo, nobody really seems to want him. Charlo ducked him, GGG wants no part, BJS pulled out, they tried to Mungia as the mandatory and he said no. It's just getting ridiculous at this point.

I'm not a Charlo fan anymore since he's ducking Andrade. I already admitted Canelo was #1 p4p over Bud after this weekend. And said Bud needs to step up to the plate and make that fight with Spence happen NOW. Why do you excuse your favorite fighters Cowardly behavior? I am done with Charlo, and if Bud don't fight Spence next year I'm done with him too. Why do you allow this to happen with Andrade? Could you really be proud that your boy sits up on the stage like a spoiled rich kid, with all the media billionaires sucking up to him and protecting him, while he throws disses at Andrade while security is holding Andrade back, but refuses to get in the ring with him? Do you really think that **** is so tough? I respect that. It's always nice when someone can have a favorite boxer, but holds them accountable. Keeps the sport alive.

Give me some proof that Canelo wanted to go for undisputed against Andrade. Just one piece of evidence. One. How come Canelo was calling Andrade boring after his fight with Jacobs?? He's never said he wanted to fight Andrade, on Brian Custer's podcast last week he even said he was boring and didn't want to fight him. He keeps repeating these toxic rhetorics that fans like you say on here. Here’s a link to a Dan Rafael story confirming talks. And yes Canelo has always said Andrade was boring and hadn’t fought anybody. But at the time his goal was to unify 160 and fighting Andrade was the only way to do it. Now that he doesn’t need Andrade’s strap he has no reason to fight as he brings no fans and has a boring style. Beating Boo Boo’s ass does nothing for him. Edit: apparently I’m an idiot that can’t add a link but you can just google Andrade/Canelo talks 2019 and there’s a few story’s from ESPN and other sites.

Why do you call yourself TernceBudCharlo when it’s obvious you are obsessed with Canelo? Eveb though you are concerned with all things Canelo I just wanted to ask, who is Bud or Charlo fighting? I'm not a Charlo fan anymore since he's ducking Andrade. I already admitted Canelo was #1 p4p over Bud after this weekend. And said Bud needs to step up to the plate and make that fight with Spence happen NOW. Why do you excuse your favorite fighters Cowardly behavior? I am done with Charlo, and if Bud don't fight Spence next year I'm done with him too. Why do you allow this to happen with Andrade? Could you really be proud that your boy sits up on the stage like a spoiled rich kid, with all the media billionaires sucking up to him and protecting him, while he throws disses at Andrade while security is holding Andrade back, but refuses to get in the ring with him? Do you really think that shit is so tough?

They approved Kovalev, who didn't even fight on DAZN. Andrade did fight on DAZN. They approved Kovalev after Canelo moved off of his normal September date. After it was clear the GGG fight wasn’t happening they said yes to Kov but wouldn’t pay any step aside money for Kov’s September opponent and Kov (rightly so) wouldn’t pay it out of his purse. That’s why there was such a short turnaround time for it. Canelo and Andrade teams were talking in the summer for a September date. DAZN nuked that fight.

Are you HIGH??? Almost EVERYONE knows it! LAst MINUTE they DID FINALLY approve Andrade if Kov got hurt or lost. WhoTF am I talking to??? Quit wasting EVERYONE's time TROLL. FKN KEEP UP! Give me some proof that Canelo wanted to go for undisputed against Andrade. Just one piece of evidence. One. How come Canelo was calling Andrade boring after his fight with Jacobs?? He's never said he wanted to fight Andrade, on Brian Custer's podcast last week he even said he was boring and didn't want to fight him. He keeps repeating these toxic rhetorics that fans like you say on here.

How many times Andrade back out of a fight the last minute??? Charlo, Sergiy...Dude Andrade is Saunders Lite. And thats why Saunders was FAVORDED to beat him in BOSTON 45 MINUTES from Andrade's HOUSE!!! Dude! Usually the homefield gets some love??? Yea but Plant is boring. Saunders obviously didn't have that same kind of confidence against Boo Boo or else he wouldn't have cheated and pulled out.

I thought Canelo won't fight boxers who are boring and haven't fought nobody?

Both sides confirmed there were talks in summer of 2019 for a September unification fight for Canelo vs Andrade. Problem was DAZN was trying to force the GGG trilogy as Oscar De La Hoya had told them he could get Canelo to do it when they were signing GGG. DAZN told Canelo they wouldn’t approve any opponent other than GGG. Had DAZN not gotten in the way Canelo would have whipped Andrade’s ass and unified 160. Once that was no longer an option he left 160 behind and focused on 168. Now you know. Correct! There was a lot of issues with regards to this in terms of promoters. I believe this is another case where De La Hoya dropped the ball and failed to inform Canelos camp of the extension that was given to negotiate the next fight which led to him being stripped of a title.