Saunders has to KO Him, he can outbox Canelo and will still lose on the cards

Saunders won some rounds mid fight. He certainly wasnt ahead. Nobody even won rounds against Canelo since jacobs and GGG, so people were exaggerating when Saunders got his stride mid fight and won a few.

The cards are definitely stacked against him in that regard, my man... BJS vs WBC & Canelo?

garbage? Did you not see his fight with david lemieux? Yeah and what? Lemieux is rubbish as well. GGG took him apart with a jab so watching Saunders run around like a girl for 12 rounds wasn't impressive to me. Saunders is a paper champion at 168 his last 3 opponents at SMW. Isufi, Coceres, Murray not one of them are anywhere near Canelo's class. Isufi had him doing the chicken-dance and he can't punch. Canelo is going to break him in half.

He couldn't outbox my dick he aint outboxing Canelo. He's a garbage fighter and Sat night the world will watch him get booed out of the building as he runs like a chicken from a fox. garbage? Did you not see his fight with david lemieux?

No clue what you are talking about here. Lol wtf i was trying to quote tony soprano guy he said billy joe was garbage.

Ali had a lot of "lucky" wins as you call it. Not signature W's per se, but still he had a lot of sketchy scorecards in his career. I feel like Chavez Sr got a lot of lucky breaks as well that went beyond the judges you could suggest.' I'm sure there are plenty of examples & maybe even a few guys that got more sketchy scorecards in their careers. I highly doubt he's the ATG sketchy scorecard guy. Can you think of a fighter though where 100% of their many so called signature wins are a result of getting lucky on the cards?

EVERYONE gets it that's a name. Ali got a sh^tton of trash decisions. Ali shoulda had double digit L's ffs. The more compelling question is why to me. I'd argue it's cuz the audience influences things sometimes. I'd argue the style of the name guy is more known so as long as they do what they usually do & don't get hurt their more likely to get the close rounds sometimes. I think just being the more aggressive, harder hitting guy, as names tend to be, does it other times. But again it's not a hurdle that can't be cleared. Ali never got stopped til way late in his career & just one time, but he didn't get every decision & neither will Canelo. True but how many big name fighters do you know where ALL of their so called "signature wins" are wins that end in controversy? 2 GGG, Trout, Lara. You could even say that the Cotto fight he got lucky, Canelo should have won that fight don't hear me the wrong way, BUT imagine if Canelo had gotten unlucky and lost to Cotto? That's like Roman Gonalez getting unlucky twice losing to SSR and Estrada. So a little luck was involved in the Cotto win. That's Canelo's 5 best wins all involved luck, 5 for 5.

Tito was a big name too. The Tim Bradley fight was definitely a weird anomaly. That said the point remains. The big name/money guy wins more close rounds than his opponent. Plenty of big names have lost clear decisions to lesser names or non-names plenty of times, but no one will wanna bring that up in this discussion cuz the lazy debate of Canelo can't lose a decision is easier & more fun than the reality. garbage? Did you not see his fight with david lemieux?

He couldn't outbox my dick he aint outboxing Canelo. He's a garbage fighter and Sat night the world will watch him get booed out of the building as he runs like a chicken from a fox.

That was exactly my point, actually. When has Canelo ever won a fight that he CLEARLY should have lost?Erislandy Lara! Most boxing fans had him losing that fight and yet he still won.

If he doesnt at least get two or three knockdowns or a ko he aint winning on the cards.No truer words could have been spoken. I couldn't have said it better myself. There is no question that BJS will win this fight on Saturday night but yet he would still lose the decision on all three of the judges scorecards unless he knocks Canelo out. The deck is stacked against him. First of all, he can't hit and plus Canelo has a good chin and can hit.

What fighter has ever dominated Canelo then gotten robbed? You guys are inventing a narrative that doesn't exist in reality. It's a good question and certainly there's no good answer because, as you mention, nobody dominated Canelo except Floyd (who won the decision). The point people are making is different. They are referring to close fights or fights where Canelo did not get dominated, but also did not dominate his opponent. It's these close fights that Canelo has gotten the decisions (Lara, GGG twice). The reason people bring up Mayweather is because even though Canelo was dominated, he got a draw on one scorecard. Otherwise, aside from Jacobs and Trout, which were sort of close, but Canelo clearly won, Canelo has faced overmatch opponents. Hence no one who could dominate him in the first place. Thus, we are left with the only opponents who could have matched skills with Canelo in the first place and he got two decision wins, a draw, and lost (but got a draw on one card) You also have to consider the context of the business of boxing, where repeatedly the money guy will get the decisions. This is obviously not Canelo's fault, but it does lead people to feel that no matter how well an opponent fights against Canelo, Canelo will get the decision. To me, the best evidence was the lopsided card in favor of Canelo in the first GGG fight and the card with the draw in the Floyd fight that indicates that Canelo can potentially get some help from the cards. But as you mentioned, he has never actually been dominated and received a truly gift decision. Hope this explains things.

The big name/money guy OFTEN gets that. Canelo didn't reinvent the wheel here. Chavez Sr got some nods. SRL got some nods. Ali got some nods. Hell vs lower level guys fooking Jessie Vargas got some nods as I saw it & I think all things considered Vargas has had more judges in his pocket than Canelo has gotten. And people fail to actually analyze fights. They just say "I thought x won, & y won, so its a robbery" cuz they are fooking lazy & being simple. Looking at a fight rbr while scoring, but also noting close rounds that you could argue either guy won it 9/10 times explains the situation better than this Canelo is some sorta magical being capable of steering judges his way. Big names win more of the close rounds is what this is all about. Don't matter if his name is Canelo, Ali, Chavez Sr, Jessie Vargas or the 18-0 hometown kid on the local club show. And Canelo, not unlike SRL, has gotten his skills & strategy aimed in such a way that makes him rarely down by very much in any given round thus his popularity edges rounds that are close more often than they don't. No conspiracy going on here except with the 118-110 & 114-114 cards which were actually completely fooked up & they made zero sense. Seems like we agree he gets special treatment from the judges but you choose to accept while I don't.

Another great prediction by HectardoTheRet@rd0. Hopefully Nelo doesn't eat soup the night before or else BJS might knock him out with a jab

I thought Canelo beat Danny 9-3 iirc & I think most thought Canelo won that fight WIDE. Judges had it 8-4, 7-5, 7-5. Or basically Jacobs winning 1 more round on 2 cards equal a draw, Jacobs winning 2 more rounds equal a Canelo L. And I think most would have thought CANELO got robbed if he'd lost that fight like that despite Jacobs winning 2 more rounds thats how wide that fight was to most. Canelo can lose a decision & he will lose a decision one day be it Saturday or further in the future. Y'all on that fanboy/hater bs with this Canelo can't lose a decision sh^t. I am not on the fanboy/hater stuff as you mentioned. I posted why people will think that way and it is justifiable. I favor Canelo on Sat and I thought that he beat Jacobs clearly.

Floyd won their fight. Canelo didn't rob him. The Golovkin fights were close with reasonable people thinking one guy won and other reasonable people thinking the other guy won. First fight ended up being a draw, again no robbery win for Canelo. The Erislandy Lara fight was super close and Lara stunk out the joint. No issue for me that Alvarez won, he deserved to. Daniel Jacobs got beat fair and square. I don't know what fight you were watching. Kovalev got knocked out. Canelo didn't rob him. Lara did not stink out the joint at all he was landing solid head shots on that man all night long. His jab was highly effective that fight. I don't buy the "It's weaker because boxscoring has it has a jab instead of a power punch" argument. It's Canelo's job to adjust even if the guy is "stinking out the joint" that doesn't make a win less valid.

I don’t think so.....I think if Saunders boxes well and shows to the world he outboxed canelo but don’t did the get decision canelo will lose some credibility and people will then question him even more. Saunders just has to perform really well and show canelo can be outboxed then that will be a win in some way. Saunders should use his advantages and hope he gets a fair shake and not try and dog fight a boxer who is naturally stronger ......that is not wise

So basically in a close fight you won't beat Canelo. No way he had a draw against Floyd in one card, he beat Lara but one card was too wide, I thought he lost the first both GGG fights especially the first one and the Trout cards were too wide.

The big name/money guy OFTEN gets that. Canelo didn't reinvent the wheel here. Chavez Sr got some nods. SRL got some nods. Ali got some nods. Hell vs lower level guys fooking Jessie Vargas got some nods as I saw it & I think all things considered Vargas has had more judges in his pocket than Canelo has gotten. And people fail to actually analyze fights. They just say "I thought x won, & y won, so its a robbery" cuz they are fooking lazy & being simple. Looking at a fight rbr while scoring, but also noting close rounds that you could argue either guy won it 9/10 times explains the situation better than this Canelo is some sorta magical being capable of steering judges his way. Big names win more of the close rounds is what this is all about. Don't matter if his name is Canelo, Ali, Chavez Sr, Jessie Vargas or the 18-0 hometown kid on the local club show. And Canelo, not unlike SRL, has gotten his skills & strategy aimed in such a way that makes him rarely down by very much in any given round thus his popularity edges rounds that are close more often than they don't. No conspiracy going on here except with the 118-110 & 114-114 cards which were actually completely fooked up & they made zero sense. oscar de la hoya got robbed in the tito trinidad fight. Manny pacquiao got robbed twice bradley and horn, and they almost robbed him again against thurman, and not one judge gave him a round against floyd and he did better than canelo who barely moved in the fight yet canelo got a draw on one judges card lol. if you notice something, oscar and pacquiao and hagler fought under bob arum when they got robbed.

The point is you have to beat Canelo much more clear than other fighters. If you fight the same fight you fought vs Canelo vs other opponent, there is a 50/50 chance you will get the nod. Not the case when you fight it vs Canelo. He doesn't get decisions because he's the better boxer. He gets them because he's Canelo. Wasn't Kovalev up on the scorecards? How about Khan? I remember hearing that