In my opinion Povetkin will go down as one of the best heavyweights to never win a title. He is a Gold medal and has been a top 10 guy over the course of 3 eras(Tail end of the 90s fighters, Klitschko era, and the Triumvirate era). Prior to this second Whyte fight, he had only lost to Klitschko and Joshua.
Notable wins: Larry Donald, Chrys Bird, Eddie Chambers, Ruslan Chagaev, Marco Huck, Hasim Rahman, Manuel Char, Mike Perez, Marius Wach, Carlos Takam, David Price, Hughie Fury, Cedric Boswell and Dillion Whyte.
Darw: Michael Hunter.
Loses: Whyte 2, Klitschko, Joshua
Is this enough for the Hall?
Yes, like him too. But giving the names of a few overseas fighters who don't belong, doesn't dispute the fact that the vast majority of Americans (And Mexicans) shouldn't be anywhere near a HOF. Put them in a separate area away from those who should be there based on their achievements. Not because they were famous for some reason or another but lack the credentials.
Like Pipino Cuevas?
Like Arturo Gatti?
Yes, like him too. But giving the names of a few overseas fighters who don't belong, doesn't dispute the fact that the vast majority of Americans (And Mexicans) shouldn't be anywhere near a HOF. Put them in a separate area away from those who should be there based on their achievements. Not because they were famous for some reason or another but lack the credentials.
Barry doesn't belong there, that's true. But at least it's not nearly every fighter in that shouldn't be. But i do hope you know he isn't British, if that's what you're trying to get at?
Like Arturo Gatti?
Like Barry McGuigan?
Barry doesn't belong there, that's true. But at least it's not nearly every fighter in that shouldn't be. But i do hope you know he isn't British, if that's what you're trying to get at?
Yes but the hall of fame means very little in boxing. Its not on a par with baseball, or football. The real kicker is ATG.
Yes, for sure, that's I think he is a borderline case. Very good career and a very good fighter, maybe just enough to squeak by into the diminished boxing HoF. He is certainly NOT an ATG though.
I have always regarded him as a World Champion.
Olympic Gold Medalist and WBA World Heavyweight Champion 'Good career in my opinion'.
None of his loses have really been that bad ether etc
I always thought that because there was a 'Super' champ at the time, he is not considered a champ, but i get what you are saying.
In my opinion Povetkin will go down as one of the best heavyweights to never win a title. He is a Gold medal and has been a top 10 guy over the course of 3 eras(Tail end of the 90s fighters, Klitschko era, and the Triumvirate era). Prior to this second Whyte fight, he had only lost to Klitschko and Joshua.
Notable wins: Larry Donald, Chrys Bird, Eddie Chambers, Ruslan Chagaev, Marco Huck, Hasim Rahman, Manuel Char, Mike Perez, Marius Wach, Carlos Takam, David Price, Hughie Fury, Cedric Boswell and Dillion Whyte.
Darw: Michael Hunter.
Loses: Whyte 2, Klitschko, Joshua
Is this enough for the Hall?
Yes but the hall of fame means very little in boxing. Its not on a par with baseball, or football. The real kicker is ATG.
But he wasn't the WBA's champion. He picked up a regular belt when there was a Super champion.
Nowhere near HoF.
I have always regarded him as a World Champion.
Olympic Gold Medalist and WBA World Heavyweight Champion 'Good career in my opinion'.
None of his loses have really been that bad ether etc
Povetkin was world champion, no idea why you stated that he never won a title?
But he wasn't the WBA's champion. He picked up a regular belt when there was a Super champion.
Nowhere near HoF.
wth? he was gifted in his career, yet never won anything.
closest he came was points with wladdie cheating every 15 seconds, only that might have been a stoppage win by disqualification.
if you let him in then you have to let in every contender who fought reasonably well in one challenge...thats thousands!