https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HndGOUo4z4M
-Coppinger said attorneys will make their cases soon with the arbitrator and then there will be a decision
-Doesn't necessarily think this will hold up the Fury/Joshua fight, but thinks maybe they do Fury/Wilder III instead of paying big damages to Wilder
-TR was responsible for organizing Fury/Wilder III and thinks PBC feels burned for how it turned out since out of nowhere they came back and said the contract expired
-The reason Hearn came out that both contracts are signed came in response to Fury's recent comments
-If the fight doesn't happen next, then he believes the WBO may call for the Usyk fight for Joshua in the meantime
-Biggest hold up of the fight is the site deal and if they can come up with what both fighters want in the summer due to Covid
Preach it plunger . That Guy has more L”s then Silly Billy . Both lost bets with me to one was supposed to change his sig and name and the other should be banned but the forum won’t uphold the bet silly Billy agreed to . Ha
Fantasy land... a wonderful place. You ducked Shoulder Roll and then were supposed to produce links, we can see you produced nothing. Its now a joke because everyone knows you have not produced any links, turned tail on a bet when offered, and still think by saying the opposite people will believe you.
Another lie . You said team Wilder has considerations they can put forth . Do you ever stop lying ? I guess not because even when I post your own quotes you say , you claim you never said and it’s not you when caught lying ? Ha
If team Wilder had considerations applicable to the contract they wouldn’t have signed Fury and A.J , so no you are the one who don’t know what considerations are , considerations was used by you to sound smart . :lol1:
Like I’ve said you’ve been wrong about contract disputes since Ruiz beyond picking wrong fights which is only human but anytime you want to take me up on my A.J knocking Fury out let me know ,coward . Ha
Let the beating continue: Its NOT considerations moron! The correct term is consideration, and show me that link please? LIke the other alleged links you tucked tale on? Its not lies... It is things going over that pin you call a head sweetums!! You are on record from at least 3 other posters as claiming things were said that were not... See a pattern? I never said the Wilder situation would impact the Fury contract. Your still not using the correct term then claiming I am trying to sound smart? Would it make you feel better if we all posted the slanderish, r e t ar ded gibbirish you post, so you don't feel so dumb? Sorry ain't happening... Just read slowly... sound out the words, look at a site that explains things, you can do it!! For the sake of all of us.
Still bitter that Shoulder Roll ruined you. thats between you and him silly billy! Redumber ha! You had to claim someone was beneath you, and Shoulder called you out, you turned tail... No reason for me to bet with a swine like you... And let me say it again: You saying someone is wrong, a coward, etc does not make it so Silly billy! On the other hand? all these threads, with you being wrong, not understanding the points responded to, and then acting like you know something, and of you turning tale, quivering begging shoulder not to call you out too much...Its all here on the threads!!! HA! And stop PMing me!!! I will only stop when you are not an obnoxious A-hole and when you stop trying to put words in my mouth because you are so desperate. Just admit you are a fukwad and stop trying to catch people when you cannot even understand what is being posted.
Preach it plunger . That Guy has more L”s then Silly Billy . Both lost bets with me to one was supposed to change his sig and name and the other should be banned but the forum won’t uphold the bet silly Billy agreed to . Ha
How did I lose a bet to you? You were too much of a sissy to accept when I offered it.
The fact is I proposed a wager on whether Fury vs Joshua would be the next fight for both. But despite all your bluster, when pressed you hemmed and hawed and weaseled out of putting your money where your mouth is.
The excuse you gave for ducking was that it was too "stupid" for you. :lol1:
That’s a stupid bet ,because Fury could take an interim bout or any situation could arise on where the fight takes place pending Covid which could push it back later in the year .
Where's that little b*tch REDEEMER at? let it go gumbo......your boy is finished accept it.
now go back to your goofy twin charlos and let the 2 kings pins duke it out for the heavyweight marbles
Silly Billy team Fury have moved on from team Wilder . Obviously the considerations needed to be in the contract you speak of were not there because like I said they have to be directly listed no one can demand them .as you stated they are void you just can’t say considerations are in play and think you know what you’re talking about , you didn’t . Ha .
It’s time to move on and take another loss here just like the Fury one recently , you are talking utter nonsense now . :wave:
They can't really move on from Team Wilder until the legal matter between them is settled. Which won't happen until sometime in May as per Bob Arum.
Silly Billy team Fury have moved on from team Wilder . Obviously the considerations needed to be in the contract you speak of were not there because like I said they have to be directly listed no one can demand them . Ha .
It’s time to move on and take another loss here just like the Fury one recently , you are talking utter nonsense now . :wave:
I never mentioned team Wilder, another digression. Yes obviously, its good you understand that... finally. Demand them? JESUS you still don't understand what consideration is, do you? Lol. Your using language that is wrong for what you are describing. Its like me saying "this cowmeat piece is delicious" instead of 'steak.' Consideration is an innate part of how contracts are done, like an Arms Length transaction... you do not demand "hey bob we need an arms length transaction to proceed" its inherent, understood... consideration is provided either implicitly, or expressedly. YOU just really haven't a clue... Lol.
Loss? lol, your idiocy is here for all to see. You haven't won yet... Your batting 100! Just because you say it, does not make it so, and as stupid as you are, you know you have been trounced... just like the rest of the time... where are those links bub? still waiting loser...
They are not part of the contract silly Billy if they are not stated in the contract . Stop pretending and moving goal posts .
Your initial statement was the considerations enable team Wilder to re negotiatate . No silly Billy they don’t if they aren’t implemented in the contract ,that’s what consideration clauses are they have to be specified ,team Wilder just can’t say we want considerations if they don’t exist in the pre existing one . :lol1:
They are the very structure of a contract according to common law. You are unable to think abstractly. You are confusing yourself. Posting jargon does not change things. Of course they have to be specified and? You see a pattern here? You get into this same situation with every other poster because you try to cover your lack of intellect posting obvious things couched in jargon, then claim you are informed... NO! lol. You are not informed. You are a simpleton. You JUST got the concept of what consideration is down, and you still are floundering with it. Do you add it to a contract? Only in a manner of speaking. You rarely can have a contract with no consideration and its not considerations moron lol.
Where's that little b*tch REDEEMER at?
He just figured out the technical term "consideration" in a contract, that was as of 3 weeks, or so ago... arguing all kinds of gibberish while he was STILL not aware there was a technical term he should look at... Yes I had sent him a link. So I am thinking he is probably behind a bit lol.
That’s a lie , if the contract lacks consideration on either side, it will not be enforced at law.
The specific considerations must be listed and no one knows what they are except you ?
You were also talking about the Wilder contract now you moved over on to the A.J one ?
Considerations beforehand have to be worded into the contract stop lying as though you know what they are , no one does that’s if there’s is any what you accuse others of is what you actually do all the time , assume . :lol1:
Lol. You finally understand the term from congradulations!! Yes they are part of the contract to be enforced, not "considerations" (moron lol). the rest of the post God only knows how you came up with... It took you almost a month to get this concept down and you work in a Law firm?! Lol. You were hillarious lol, thinking the term was common parlance considerations... like being a considerate person lol. What an idiot but its cool because you made me laugh and I appreciate that.
Trying to put words in my mouth again Redumber? Lol. There is a thread that demonstrates your stupidity, did you forget? and there are threads and nowhere does it show I lied, or said anything regarding what you claim. Dunce cap is yours to keep, thanks for the chuckle. Hope your considerations are good there bub! Lol.
BTW I was referring to your use of considerations as in "being considerate" which was ridiculous. Also considerations are fndamental to a contract, they are not something put in willy nilly, they are part of the structure of the contract... Once again looking to catch someone... Unfortunately for you, I clarify this in the post, so you cannot take it out of context. Stop trying to catch people... Still waiting for those links!
No Silly Billy I posted what each term is ,I just don’t post and look up random words like you do . Again adults are talking here ,now go look up some more big words that lead to nothing of the discussion here . :lol1:
You still didn’t tell me if Considerations were in the contract ? Do you understand they need that word to even put it in play to persue ? No you didn’t ,you’re literally the only poster who has made assumptions of knowing about the personal information in the arbitration not me based on just that . You gave a wiki link that you think shows your right because of the definition but the actual legal implementation of it needs the word expressed in the contract...silly billy anyone can post a simple link of the word you think you know ,some might even buy into it ? Ha
You arent learning a thing are you? Considerations are not in a contract, they are part of the structure of a contract... Specifically there was a fine point raised by a poster about Fury signing given the 30 day Kill provision. I commented that in addition to having an option to kill the contract if a venue was not secured by an agreed upon date, Fury could have been offered CONSIDERATION... a payment to secure his signature for the 30 day period exclusively... making it like an option.
Options are a part of many contracts. You havent a clue about any of the initial post and posted some nonsense, then when I discovered you did not even know what you were commenting on, vis a vis you did not know the technical term involved... I agreed to let it go initially. But you started up again and so, I had to expose your total lack of knowledge.
and... you of course made it worse trying to back track and defining the common word consideration(s) lol. I doubt you still have bothered to look up the term or read the link I sent you so you could cure some of your ignorance... LOL Ha!
Good to know I was under the impression it was non binding since it was agreed by both parties and there’s limited arbitration paths that pertain to this situation, it was an expired contract these result in compensation for the plaintiff nothing more really .
Binding arbitration doesn’t exactly change much other then the final decision where Team Fury can be forced to make any payment decided and not really challenging it . But let’s not mix things up here no arbitration can force Fury nor stop him from fighting A.J as some crazy posters think .
keep in mind it is Shelly Finkle saying that ,he also stated the contract didn’t expire and it sure did ?
Yes, compensation coming out of Fury's future purse. Enough compensation (maybe 50%) to conpel him to keep his money and fight Wilder. i.e. honor the contract and do what he should have done in the first place.
It’s not an assumption . Arbitration and a non binding one cannot stop a fighter ,it’s not a court case again it’s to resolve a dispute ,most likely money in this case and or a renegotiation of the expired contract as a part of the process but it’s definitely not to stop Fury from fighting’s in the U.S , you are on some good drugs .
What you just described is a Binding arbitration ,you looked up the wrong thing pertaining to this one ,because binding arbitration is usually involved with company disputes not disputes over financial and expired contracts between two separate parties . :lol1:
“Ive worked for NASA “ Yet posted Arbitration which is for settling disputes was going to stop Fury from fighting in the U.S ? They better double check who they are hiring over there . :lol1:
It is assumption, you're reading the idea of a thing and assuming in practice it's as limited as described. You have no patents, no works to speak of, nothing even remotely similar to this case to relate to it.
I've worked for NASA, the US Navy, Disney, Hasbro, Parker Brothers, and more. Disputes come up and contractual arbitration is the only means to adhere to without taking losses beyond the contract. It opens you up to being sued for any manner of things which will end in things like license revokes. We have it in our original contracts for a reason, it's a precursor to a lawsuit and if you lose the arb the suit is a slam dunk.
You don't know **** and don't have any reason to pretend like you do. There's no reason to even have it in original contracts if it's fangless, dumbass.
Actually yes, it is a binding arbitration:
Finkel said their contract calls for mediation to resolve any differences and if that does not work the issue would go to binding arbitration.
“In our contract, if there is a dispute it goes to mediation and that’s what’s going to happen,” Finkel said. “And (then) binding arbitration if mediation is unsuccessful.”
https://www.boxingscene.com/wilder-taking-fury-mediation-attempt-force-third-fight--153168
If you stated facts or stay away from topics you have a severe limited understanding of then maybe more people would not have to disagree with you ? :lol1:
Gee another poster who finds you a moron... kind of like finding a speck of sand on the beach... better to run to Siablo!
Silly Billy , Satisfaction and Modification are the only 2 legal courses of consideration that applies with two disputing parties here .You just can’t say there’s considerations because several exist and only 2 apply here . An expired contract is unenforceable, this In some situations, courts will step in and declare that a contract is unenforceable because it lacks consideration.
Considerations usually involve companies getting sued ,this is a case of a expired contract where one party wants a renegotiation or effort to claim financial sums .
Did Finkle actually have the word Consideration in the contract ? Do you have that information Silly Billy because you cannot even persue that without it in the contract ? It’s a yes or no question since you seem to be part of the Wilder lawyers which wouldn’t shock me either ,incompetent comes to mind ? :lol1:
You just pasted some legal jargon which has nothing to do with anything discussed. You think people will not realize that you went, googled something you know nothing about and then made like it applies in some fashion to your ignorance? People are not stupid REdumber... You are!!! lol.
And its not "considerations" you moron, it is an act of supplying something of value as collaterial for a contract to be valid vis a vis "Consideration." Sometimes called "skin in the game" in the common vernacular.
Great... now you have proved absolutely that you know nothing about contracts lol. Dude you are embarrasing yourself here! I hope you are not some 15 year old... I am beginning to think... if you are a kid trying to be a smart a s s, (palm slap). Stop talking about things you know nothing about. Seriously. I am becoming the guy with a sore foot from shoving it up your rear so high and so many times...
So re tard: Here is a Wiki blurb on consideration which is not the word "considerations" that you confuse with the term showing you don't know anything about contracts:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consideration
Fury out-boxed Wilder in the first fight and man-handled him in the second fight. At this point, it's likely much more appealing for Wilder to get paid from a settlement than face Fury again. If he does get a settlement, I hope it's for pennies on the dollar because he knows he doesn't want to fight Fury ever again.
If you stated facts or stay away from topics you have a severe limited understanding of then maybe more people would not have to disagree with you ? :lol1:
I will let you have the last word. You just can't help yourself and don't understand how id1otic you sound.
That is absolutely correct. And then when they get desperate they mischaracterize anyone who disagrees with them. Redumber is now flocking to Siablo lol, another real piece of crap.
They bring nothing to this site. I can disagree with someone and respect their opinions but these guys can't do that because they think they are smarter than everybody and think that their opinions are facts.
Seems wrong, I dunno what lawyer taught you this but plenty of prototype creators are forced to finish projects for budgets they've already been through due to arbitration. Not money paid, work finished. I've lived it so you can tell me nah-uh until y'all cows come home but it don't change the reality of work experience. I doubt Wilder's got the position to force it but the juxta can become fight wilder or don't fight in the US.
They might have been motivated by the options in front of them... or either deliver the contracted outcome or pay $X.
But you certainly can't force people to do things.
No-one can force Fury to fight Wilder. That much should be common sense.