How many current title holders can you say are great?

Canelo haters are so pathetic it’s comical they just can’t bring themselves to admit he’s great(any non agenda driven clown)knows he is yet they just don’t want to. So we should start playing they’re BS games they like to discredit his resume but I can do that all day with guys like Floyd, RJJ, Toney etc So if canelo isn’t “great” than neither are guys like Floyd, Roy Jones and James toney. Yeah. Idk what RJJ, PBF and Toney have to with Canelo, but I would say Canelo is great regardless of what anyone says, and he will go down as an all time great regardless. Also, some of these guys that say Canelo is not great aren’t Mayweather fans either. So they’re basically anti-great. Anyone who’s clearly great, they want to go against the grain and so they aren’t. They want to appear like they know a lot about boxing by going against the grain. They think they’re boxing elitist.

I could be convinced Estrada is semi-great.

None. Current fighters aren't active enough to determine their greatness. Some with a potential. I need to see more from all, unless we are throwing the word around.

I think beterbiev is good for his division. Relentless attacking style, but I don’t think he’s as good as this site claims. I’ve seen a lot of his fights and he’s not hard to hit at all.

Let's see ... "will go down as great": - Pacman - Beterbiev (not there yet but I think he'll make it) - Lomachenko - - Povetkin (career accomplishments, longevity, PEDS are an asterisk and a problem) - GGG (career accomplishments) - Canelo (for career earnings only - resume, Peds, timing of fights, catchweights ... are all question marks and problems for boxing credentials) - Inouye - Rigondeaux Have the potential to go down as great: (depends on what happens from here = DOWHFH) - Spence - Fury - Wilder - Teofimo - Canelo - Gay Russell Jr. - Joshua - Benavidez - Bivol Keep in mind there are only a very few ATG's that never lost a fight. That said, there are several up and comers that have the potential also. The future will tell ...

idk tough one fury surely is a great liar and cheat, or is he? joshua is a good if not great spoofer, like his promoter but not quite as good as him russians can be great but usually at drinking vodka spence is not great at driving when drunk, that one is for sure crawford is great at giving the impression he already thinks hes great charlos are great talkers, if only i could understand what they are on about 4 kings at LW, nuff said lots of great smaller guys too, put them all together and they make up one great big guy we are all great trying to work out how many great guys there are from all the great available belts Haha! Excellent!

Fighters nowadays are so entitled for championship belts and they are emboldened by the sanctioning bodies. I was not around in those days, but it would have been so cool if a fighter wanted to become champion he had to beat one champion of the weight class. Instead of having the option to beat like 5 different titleholders. With either 4 or all 5 of them being mediocre. Like how many weight classes can you look at and say that more than one title holder is great? HW...I would say I like both Fury and AJ. CW...Breidis is pretty good. LHW...I think Beterbiev is the clear “great” fighter there. SMW...Canelo. MW...GGG and Charlo are both good champs...Andrade and Murata not so much. SMW...Charlo is good. WW...Spence and Crawford have to fight this one out. Spence at least beat Porter at 147. JWW...Taylor and Ramirez are both good champs. LW...Obviously loaded, and Teo beating Loma created more questions than answers. Teo is officially the Ring champ, but it’s a loaded division. SFW...I think Davis is the best there. Although I doubt he fights at 130 again. FW...Not sure about this one. Would have to see Russell fight someone with a pulse. SBW...not sure. BW...Inoue is a good champ. Jr BW...I’d say Estrada. But a non title holder there, Rungvisai, I would say is equal to Estrada. As for the rest, I do not follow fighters that are the average weight of a 15 year old female. Id say a lot of guys need to sort it out currently to be considered great. Fury-joshua Beterbiev-bivol Spence-crawford Taylor-ramirez Teo-garcia-haney Tank-berchelt All of these guys have a case or potential to be considered the "great" of their division. But they need to fight each other to get that distinction.

Fighters nowadays are so entitled for championship belts and they are emboldened by the sanctioning bodies. I was not around in those days, but it would have been so cool if a fighter wanted to become champion he had to beat one champion of the weight class. Instead of having the option to beat like 5 different titleholders. With either 4 or all 5 of them being mediocre. Like how many weight classes can you look at and say that more than one title holder is great? HW...I would say I like both Fury and AJ. CW...Breidis is pretty good. LHW...I think Beterbiev is the clear “great” fighter there. SMW...Canelo. MW...GGG and Charlo are both good champs...Andrade and Murata not so much. SMW...Charlo is good. WW...Spence and Crawford have to fight this one out. Spence at least beat Porter at 147. JWW...Taylor and Ramirez are both good champs. LW...Obviously loaded, and Teo beating Loma created more questions than answers. Teo is officially the Ring champ, but it’s a loaded division. SFW...I think Davis is the best there. Although I doubt he fights at 130 again. FW...Not sure about this one. Would have to see Russell fight someone with a pulse. SBW...not sure. BW...Inoue is a good champ. Jr BW...I’d say Estrada. But a non title holder there, Rungvisai, I would say is equal to Estrada. As for the rest, I do not follow fighters that are the average weight of a 15 year old female. Belts are totally meaningless

If we are picking for the ones who will be on the all time list I would say only Canelo currently and then PAC based on his legacy.

idk tough one fury surely is a great liar and cheat, or is he? joshua is a good if not great spoofer, like his promoter but not quite as good as him russians can be great but usually at drinking vodka spence is not great at driving when drunk, that one is for sure crawford is great at giving the impression he already thinks hes great charlos are great talkers, if only i could understand what they are on about 4 kings at LW, nuff said lots of great smaller guys too, put them all together and they make up one great big guy we are all great trying to work out how many great guys there are from all the great available belts

Fighters nowadays are so entitled for championship belts and they are emboldened by the sanctioning bodies. I was not around in those days, but it would have been so cool if a fighter wanted to become champion he had to beat one champion of the weight class. Instead of having the option to beat like 5 different titleholders. With either 4 or all 5 of them being mediocre. Like how many weight classes can you look at and say that more than one title holder is great? HW...I would say I like both Fury and AJ. CW...Breidis is pretty good. LHW...I think Beterbiev is the clear “great” fighter there. SMW...Canelo. MW...GGG and Charlo are both good champs...Andrade and Murata not so much. SMW...Charlo is good. WW...Spence and Crawford have to fight this one out. Spence at least beat Porter at 147. JWW...Taylor and Ramirez are both good champs. LW...Obviously loaded, and Teo beating Loma created more questions than answers. Teo is officially the Ring champ, but it’s a loaded division. SFW...I think Davis is the best there. Although I doubt he fights at 130 again. FW...Not sure about this one. Would have to see Russell fight someone with a pulse. SBW...not sure. BW...Inoue is a good champ. Jr BW...I’d say Estrada. But a non title holder there, Rungvisai, I would say is equal to Estrada. As for the rest, I do not follow fighters that are the average weight of a 15 year old female. None. Not one. Unless Pacman still holds a belt. None of them have found (or appear willing to) find their foil. Their epic opponent. A Duran to their Leonard. A JMM to their Paquiao. A Frazier to their Ali. Teofimo appears to be closest having recently beat Lomachenko but is now avoiding what would likely be a great rematch in favor of social media wars. The greatest potential is currently at 130-140 imo, but they will most probably just make alot of noise and not do much.

From Middle Weight to Light Heavyweight there are no great champions. Canelo Alvarez is not a all-time great middleweight. If he was fighting in the 90's, he would still be fighting at 147-154, I don't think he would want to play about at middle weight etc

The word "great" in boxing context carries a lot more weight. Off the back of accomplishments, I'd only have a few that I'd rank as, or near to, great – Canelo Usyk Fury Pac Gonzales Inoue Obv Usyk isn't a champ at Heavy but he's had a great run through Cruiser.

Would be interesting to do this same exercise, but count how many belts sit with 'unworthy' guys. The sport is a mess.

Excellent list, I more or less agree with every point... I think it is clear that ginger balls is the stand out fighter of this decade so far.