Did Floyd ever take a "Risk" in his career?

Some of what you say has truth to it. Floyd was not liked because of his personality, that's clear for all to see. However, he choose to play the 'bad guy' and used it to his advantage when it came to markets his PPV fights. Floyd was the highest paid boxer in history, he achieved that by marketing and careful career management. Using that standard, its hard for him or his fans to complain about 'haters'. Would he rather be paid less and loved / respected more? No way. - -TBE TUE 51-0 was the congenital B side who couldn't draw flies until he fought Oscar. Even Daddy Sr who trained both said Junior got whooped. Then he leveraged Canelo, Manny, and McG MGM Floyd and then ran from the lucrative rematches. Had his BALCO Juan and BALCO Shane purses seized for back taxes by IRS.

Start the thread Floyds resume vs Mannys resume fight for fight timing weights and measures and opponents form and will see who the cherry picker is . The cherrypicker is Floyd, it's all over the internet and on the streets. Your fight by fight analysis isn't changing nobody's mind who is convinced that Floyd is the cherrypicker's cherrypicker. You ask Floyd straight up why did he duck out of ww division for two years, or why he take so long to make certain fights, or cherrypick Berto over Keith Thurman, and he will literally change the subject to how Al Haymon guided his career, or some shiny new toy he just bought. Dude is a flim flam artist. I

Because he was hated because of his bragging and flashing money, add to that his main rival was Manny who was liked so the whole villain vs good guy just added wood to the fire and to really rub it he was undefeated and Joe Casual never likes bragging winners. The whole cherry picking idea is born from haters, how can anybody call Floyd a cherry picker and be a fan of Manny, its comical and Ive challenged all of them here to debate me comparing resumes head to head fight for fight, timing weights and opponents form going into the matches, none of them will take me up on it because I will blow them away I will show Manny is by far a bigger cherry picker than Floyd by far. Its easier for the haters to makes some wild attacks on Floyd and when you get into them they throw some insults and run off to say the same sht somewhere else. He is clearly not a cherry picker - whoever says that is plainly hating and this place is full of attention seeking behaviour. That is not to say Floyd avoided challenges - there is definitely truth to that. There is truth to saying he did not like to fighters when they were really hot. Floyd is a complete genius in the ring but I think there is truth in that he is a very insecure person and i think those insecurities manifested into his professional career. Ultimately he didnt like to challenge himself on the regular, that's a fair assessment. The level of his opponents is only relative to his own talent - he is probably a top 5 talent all time - I dont think many would debate this. But in terms of resume, accomplishments, you would have him top 20, so that tells a story in itself. You can make this a Pac vs May debate,but ultimately Manny challenged himself more often, there is no denying that. I'm not saying - he is better or accomplished more (debatable) but he certainly challenged himself more and continues too today even. People just dont know how to articulate the above so they call him a cherry picker. What I would say completely objectively - great career, but managed his workload in a way which wasnt always pleasing to fans but operating this way increased his longevity and keeping his faculties in tact. I agree with the TS that the Oscar fight was maybe the only time in his career where I was pretty uncertain about the result.

Because he was hated because of his bragging and flashing money, add to that his main rival was Manny who was liked so the whole villain vs good guy just added wood to the fire and to really rub it he was undefeated and Joe Casual never likes bragging winners. The whole cherry picking idea is born from haters, how can anybody call Floyd a cherry picker and be a fan of Manny, its comical and Ive challenged all of them here to debate me comparing resumes head to head fight for fight, timing weights and opponents form going into the matches, none of them will take me up on it because I will blow them away I will show Manny is by far a bigger cherry picker than Floyd by far. Its easier for the haters to makes some wild attacks on Floyd and when you get into them they throw some insults and run off to say the same sht somewhere else. Some of what you say has truth to it. Floyd was not liked because of his personality, that's clear for all to see. However, he choose to play the 'bad guy' and used it to his advantage when it came to markets his PPV fights. Floyd was the highest paid boxer in history, he achieved that by marketing and careful career management. Using that standard, its hard for him or his fans to complain about 'haters'. Would he rather be paid less and loved / respected more? No way.

He already did 52 times since Apodaca to McLoser + Big Show and Tenshin...

Hmmm and why is that. The level of cherrypicking far overshadowed the few risks you could give him credit for. Start the thread Floyds resume vs Mannys resume fight for fight timing weights and measures and opponents form and will see who the cherry picker is .

I'm not so sure. Why was Floyd singled out? There is always a reason - it's not just a random occurrence. Because he was hated because of his bragging and flashing money, add to that his main rival was Manny who was liked so the whole villain vs good guy just added wood to the fire and to really rub it he was undefeated and Joe Casual never likes bragging winners. The whole cherry picking idea is born from haters, how can anybody call Floyd a cherry picker and be a fan of Manny, its comical and Ive challenged all of them here to debate me comparing resumes head to head fight for fight, timing weights and opponents form going into the matches, none of them will take me up on it because I will blow them away I will show Manny is by far a bigger cherry picker than Floyd by far. Its easier for the haters to makes some wild attacks on Floyd and when you get into them they throw some insults and run off to say the same sht somewhere else.

Not really its just the others were never highlighted like he was, everything Floyd did was crucified while others that did the same stuff and worse not a murmur . Have you ever heard of the tall poppy syndrome . I'm not so sure. Why was Floyd singled out? There is always a reason - it's not just a random occurrence.

Not really its just the others were never highlighted like he was, everything Floyd did was crucified while others that did the same stuff and worse not a murmur . Hmmm and why is that. The level of cherrypicking far overshadowed the few risks you could give him credit for.

He took plenty of risks, Castillo, Maidana, Mosley(shook him up with a clean shot)

You may be right, but it doesn't change the fact that Floyd was easily the most blatant and shameless exponant of the A side B side approach. Not really its just the others were never highlighted like he was, everything Floyd did was crucified while others that did the same stuff and worse not a murmur . Have you ever heard of the tall poppy syndrome .

You may be right, but it doesn't change the fact that Floyd was easily the most blatant and shameless exponant of the A side B side approach.

Every fighter takes and accepts risks. Floyd just made sure that he managed every conceivable risk to achieve the biggest reward. By setting the terms - he controlled the whole event to favour him. ' He was shrewd as hell, also very well 'advised'. People who hate Floyd for the above need to look beyond him as an individual and look at the sport itself. Pro boxing was never an honest, open sport EVER. Its is literally full of every type of risk a human can face - injury, humiliation, bankruptcy, exploitation, legal action, etc. I don't like Floyd's personality at all, but in terms of his approach to the business side of boxing...he was a dark master. The irony is you just described every A side superstar in the game and this idea grew into so much Floyd bias its unbelievable, they all did it from Oscar to Manny to Canelo .

Every fighter takes and accepts risks. Floyd just made sure that he managed every conceivable risk to achieve the biggest reward. By setting the terms - he controlled the whole event to favour him. ' He was shrewd as hell, also very well 'advised'. People who hate Floyd for the above need to look beyond him as an individual and look at the sport itself. Pro boxing was never an honest, open sport EVER. Its is literally full of every type of risk a human can face - injury, humiliation, bankruptcy, exploitation, legal action, etc. I don't like Floyd's personality at all, but in terms of his approach to the business side of boxing...he was a dark master.

James Prince on JRE was saying he was initially against fighting corrales, even when the network was giving him a bigger contract if he fought him

Floyd was on top for over a decade. He was the best. So EVERY fighter against him was the underdog. What else do you want him to do And they act like everyone was heavy underdogs. Floyd wasn’t that big of a favorite as his critics make it out to be. His biggest fights, he was the close favorite. Nothing like Tyson-Douglas odds. We’re talking 2-1, 3-1, 3-2, even (Corrales), underdog (Hernandez), and underdog vs DLH on fight night. He wasn’t even all that of a favorite against JMM, a guy coming up 2 weight classes. -360 isn’t much. You can still make good money on the favorite with those odds, if you have good money to bet with.

Besides when he went to gattis hometown and destroyed him (something pacroid could never dream of doing). really? aside from that? what? he's a homeboy after all.

so true! fighting only in vegas is taking no risk.. so it was answered now.. whoever he face in the ring as long as it was in nevada it's a very very low risk to non. Besides when he went to gattis hometown and destroyed him

Let's see Mosley said he needed a vacation 2/06 after the 2nd Vargas fight.. Floyd vs Hatton 2007 when Floyd told Larry Merchant he needed a vacation. You said his hands was hurtin'. Shane said if he beats Cotto he wants Floyd if Floyd beats Hatton. Prime Cotto beat Shane and called Floyd out but the phone was off the hook. Mosley beat Margarito 1/09. Again says he's ready for Floyd. Floyd came off vacation and fought Marquez 09/09. Two years later. Brian Kenny questioned Floyd about cherrypicking lightweight Marquez when Shane was the champ. Floyd gets offensive and makes excuses. Postfight Shane just went ahead and got in the ring and called Floyd out. Actual fight took place 5/2010. So Shane actually was ready to fight Floyd a year after taking a vacation. Took one loss to Cotto regrouped and Floyd still ducked him. It took Floyd 1.5 years to make the fight happen. You call this "facts"? Mosley chose to move up to fight De La Hoya in 1999 rather than face mayweather lol. Also, the two were supposed to meet in 2005, but mosle needed a vacation lol. This post is riddled with bias

The biggest risk floid has taken in his life is riding in a car without a seat belt. Everyone knows that phaggot would never man up and face a challenge without rigging all of the variables to his favor so true! fighting only in vegas is taking no risk.. so it was answered now.. whoever he face in the ring as long as it was in nevada it's a very very low risk to non.