Aside from the obvious, being scared to lose, which we know is the answer.
Why would you fight Mungia when you can fight a guy with a belt and then with a win you're only 2 belts away from undisputed, one of those fights against the guy you keep begging for a fight with.
GGG and Andrade have the same promoter. They fight on the same network. No excuse for this fight not to happen next.
typical, sad, golovkin fanboi excuse response...but i expected nothing less...nothings ever golovkins fault..always point the finger at the other guy...even if that guy is more accomplished and 8 years younger lolol
more accomplished lol, Golovkin had 2 careers (3 if you count Ams), 1 in Europe and 1 in America, he had his first fight in US when he was already 30! and was blatantly ducked till he turned 35! everybody and their mama are shot and retired at this age
typical, sad, golovkin fanboi excuse response...but i expected nothing less...nothings ever golovkins fault..always point the finger at the other guy...even if that guy is more accomplished and 8 years younger lolol
Curt you are a well known hater of Golovkin and a Canelo apologist. By the way there is nothing sad about pointing out the truth and what the heck does Canelo's age have to do with why or why not he ducked Jermall and Andrade.
Well then all the more reason for Canelo to have fought Andrade if he's as good as you say he is. The facts are Canelo Andrade and Charlo have shared the same divisions far longer than they did with Golovkin. Canelo avoided both fighters. Those are facts.
typical, sad, golovkin fanboi excuse response...but i expected nothing less...nothings ever golovkins fault..always point the finger at the other guy...even if that guy is more accomplished and 8 years younger lolol
That was all BS lol you shoulda known that after he wanted no part of Carl froch accepting his challenge and them shutting the door on the ward talk real quick. At this point in his career I'm surprised he hasnt had a fight with Chavez Jr just for the check
The luster has gone concerning Golovkin fighting Chavez Jr. since Canelo has already beat Chavez. Coincidentally just for the check.
know why?
because at age 30 canelo already has a better resume than a 38 year old golovkin....canelo has belts from 154-175....he also has fought guys like lara and trout......when golovkins trainer said "go get in line at 160" and loeffler said "he brings no fans and no money plus hes on another network(lara confirmed he wasnt contractually obligated to any network)"....all of this at a point when lara would have been the best scalp on his resume bar none
canelos resume will only get better...and its already better than golovkins
now im sure you will spin what i said with your typical "golovkin superfan excuse BS"...because golovkin never does anything wrong in your eyes and now money and business interests are ok now that golovkin has shown hes about that life....but before it was all "i dont care about money, fans or business....i want the best fighting the best"....
smh
Well then all the more reason for Canelo to have fought Andrade if he's as good as you say he is. The facts are Canelo Andrade and Charlo have shared the same divisions far longer than they did with Golovkin. Canelo avoided both fighters. Those are facts.
That was all BS lol you shoulda known that after he wanted no part of Carl froch accepting his challenge and them shutting the door on the ward talk real quick. At this point in his career I'm surprised he hasnt had a fight with Chavez Jr just for the check
oh ive long known it...i just thought you might have been one of those "guys" in denial about it who defends golovkin in every situation and says he never does wrong....im glad you recognize
i havent heard andrade make any plans to go above 160 yet have you? he still has his 160 strap....so its safer to say yeah he can make weight...and sure hes interested in a golovkin fight....but the a-side has to be interested in order for it to happen
yeah jamie is easier to ko...and makes for a more entertaining fight....which is fine....but what happened to the tune golovkin fans were singing years ago about how they want the best to fight the best and all that? and fans, money, business dont matter?
That was all BS lol you shoulda known that after he wanted no part of Carl froch accepting his challenge and them shutting the door on the ward talk real quick. At this point in his career I'm surprised he hasnt had a fight with Chavez Jr just for the check
Has andrade even shown interest in the fight? Can he even make the weight? Even so he is awkward and not very entertaining. If that alone isn't enough to deter ggg the fan appeal aspect will. Jaime AND golovkin play towards a hispanic audience and both have very entertaining styles. Jaime is also kinda green and between him and Andrade he is probably easier to ko in gggs eyes.
i havent heard andrade make any plans to go above 160 yet have you? he still has his 160 strap....so its safer to say yeah he can make weight...and sure hes interested in a golovkin fight....but the a-side has to be interested in order for it to happen
yeah jamie is easier to ko...and makes for a more entertaining fight....which is fine....but what happened to the tune golovkin fans were singing years ago about how they want the best to fight the best and all that? and fans, money, business dont matter?
Has andrade even shown interest in the fight? Can he even make the weight? Even so he is awkward and not very entertaining. If that alone isn't enough to deter ggg the fan appeal aspect will. Jaime AND golovkin play towards a hispanic audience and both have very entertaining styles. Jaime is also kinda green and between him and Andrade he is probably easier to ko in gggs eyes.
Most likely whoever they think will provide the biggest financial gain for Golovkin. Also at this stage of his career he's going to avoid movers because he's slowed down noticably. Heck Canelo has avoided Andrade for almost his entire career since the both shared the same divisions but no critisism from Canelo fans for this.
know why?
because at age 30 canelo already has a better resume than a 38 year old golovkin....canelo has belts from 154-175....he also has fought guys like lara and trout......when golovkins trainer said "go get in line at 160" and loeffler said "he brings no fans and no money plus hes on another network(lara confirmed he wasnt contractually obligated to any network)"....all of this at a point when lara would have been the best scalp on his resume bar none
canelos resume will only get better...and its already better than golovkins
now im sure you will spin what i said with your typical "golovkin superfan excuse BS"...because golovkin never does anything wrong in your eyes and now money and business interests are ok now that golovkin has shown hes about that life....but before it was all "i dont care about money, fans or business....i want the best fighting the best"....
smh
Aside from the obvious, being scared to lose, which we know is the answer.
Why would you fight Mungia when you can fight a guy with a belt and then with a win you're only 2 belts away from undisputed, one of those fights against the guy you keep begging for a fight with.
GGG and Andrade have the same promoter. They fight on the same network. No excuse for this fight not to happen next.
Most likely whoever they think will provide the biggest financial gain for Golovkin. Also at this stage of his career he's going to avoid movers because he's slowed down noticably. Heck Canelo has avoided Andrade for almost his entire career since the both shared the same divisions but no critisism from Canelo fans for this.
Simple...Andrade can beat GGG...Mungia most likely gets battered down by GGG. Plus, to the uneducated boxing public, beating a young kid means more than beating a 32 yro.
obviously Mungia brings in the large Mexican fan ba$e, does Andrade have a fan base? lol
yup jamie has a fanbase...and andrade doesnt
but this type of stuff only applies when it relates to their favorites..if someone they dont like does it they call them out....be consistent....you like golovkin? ok...but call him out on choosing business over the sport
a few years ago golovkins fans said business interests didnt matter and they wanted the best fighting the best and all of that...and that golovkin was different and wanted the best fights...when golovkin showed himself to be like all the others they decided business interests were ok
yeah i get that jamie/ggg is a much friendlier fight...and i know im a golovkin hater but arent you interested in seeing andrade vs an elite fighter? i know i am....
whats golovkin doing with that ibf belt and defending it against uncalled for mandos if hes not going to unify with andrade or charlo?
golovkin has never really stepped out of his comfort zone when people wanted him to...ie lara or ward...he built his rep, pre canelo, fighting guys they picked because they knew theyd be knock out victims....golovkins always had the easier path and even though i know hes old and on the downside i still want him facing top guys and proving something...because in his biggest fights hes come up short or had debatable wins.....im tired of him getting a pass
yeah him vs jamie would be action and all that...its cool...but im more interested in seeing two champs at 160 go out and to see what andrade has vs elite comp...if golovkin can still "fight" like you say than he should be facing a guy like andrade
Yeah I would like them to fight for sure but I'm at the point in my enjoyment of watching boxing where I'd rather just see some guys go at it and hopefully one gets dropped and stopped.
Watching Andrade dance around the ring for 12 rounds landing pitty pat shots and trying to survive against GGG would be a snooze fest IMO.. but maybe I'm wrong and they go after it and it turns out to be a great scrap.
I'll watch either of them of course and I wouldn't be mad at the result either way it went if GGG and Andrade do fight.
You make it sound as if Bud has had all of these great elite opponents in his weight classes all these years the way Canelo and GGG have with Andrade, the Charlos, etc. But, if Bud does duck the Spence match, I will no longer be a fan. I don't think he will.
Andrade looks like the goods but has not fought a top fighter yet. Wasted too many years of his life waiting around. He is the unknown risk.
They will sell Mungia/GGG better than against Andrade. That is Andrade's fault for not making a case for himself.
Yup, include Bud in that phrase.
You make it sound as if Bud has had all of these great elite opponents in his weight classes all these years the way Canelo and GGG have with Andrade, the Charlos, etc. But, if Bud does duck the Spence match, I will no longer be a fan. I don't think he will.
Gotta be honest, as a fan of both GGG and Andrade, I'd much rather watch a GGG-Mungia fight. It will be 100x more pleasing for fans IMO
Even at this stage of his career I'd give GGG a good shot to beat Andrade also, he is a good boxer but he can't crack an egg and GGG can still fight.
yeah i get that jamie/ggg is a much friendlier fight...and i know im a golovkin hater but arent you interested in seeing andrade vs an elite fighter? i know i am....
whats golovkin doing with that ibf belt and defending it against uncalled for mandos if hes not going to unify with andrade or charlo?
golovkin has never really stepped out of his comfort zone when people wanted him to...ie lara or ward...he built his rep, pre canelo, fighting guys they picked because they knew theyd be knock out victims....golovkins always had the easier path and even though i know hes old and on the downside i still want him facing top guys and proving something...because in his biggest fights hes come up short or had debatable wins.....im tired of him getting a pass
yeah him vs jamie would be action and all that...its cool...but im more interested in seeing two champs at 160 go out and to see what andrade has vs elite comp...if golovkin can still "fight" like you say than he should be facing a guy like andrade