Spence recently said, he’s got 2-3 fights left at 147.
Hypothetically, Spence fights Thurman, Pac, & Bud by 2022 & remains undefeated with no controversy.
Where does his 147 resume stack up?
Or Spence fights Ugas, Porter 2, & Thurman by 2022 & remains undefeated with no controversy
Personally, I think Spence needs to beat Bud to toss his name into the hat of greatest welters, but on other websites, I’ve said I’m not sure the fight happens @ 147, so what would the second trio of wins do for his resume?
All hypothetical, just curious about y’all’s thoughts.
Spence recently said, he’s got 2-3 fights left at 147.
Hypothetically, Spence fights Thurman, Pac, & Bud by 2022 & remains undefeated with no controversy.
Where does his 147 resume stack up?
Or Spence fights Ugas, Porter 2, & Thurman by 2022 & remains undefeated with no controversy
Personally, I think Spence needs to beat Bud to toss his name into the hat of greatest welters, but on other websites, I’ve said I’m not sure the fight happens @ 147, so what would the second trio of wins do for his resume?
All hypothetical, just curious about y’all’s thoughts.
He needs to fight Crawford that’s it. He can just have 1 fight and that’s Crawford and I will be satisfied. I actually think Crawford is easily the more skilled of the two but I just believe Spence will smoke him down the stretch and insert his will. How can Crawford be 34 and he is yet to be tested. One can say he is that good but if I look at his opponents they are garbage. Crawford needs this fight too
You guys talking about Legacy for guys who are F^cking 30 Years Old :nonono:
Slow Down! Spence Jr is just getting started technically so way too early to start talking about "Legacy"
I’m asking about his 147 legacy taking those two paths considering he said he’s got 2-3 fights left there and with him actually moving up after 3 more fights.. yes his legacy isn’t cemented until he retires, and barring injuries I expect to see him @ 154 & 160+ for some big fights
How the hell are those guys future HOFers? That's ridiculous, only one who has a shot is Crawford but he's pissing it away fighting mediocre opponents well into his mid 30's.
HOF and ATG aren't the same thing. For instance Mikey Garcia is a four division champion. That's a HOF achievement, but he is not an ATG.
You guys talking about Legacy for guys who are F^cking 30 Years Old :nonono:
Slow Down! Spence Jr is just getting started technically so way too early to start talking about "Legacy"
I think Spence is the best welterweight and beats Crawford and has fought much better welterweights than Crawford. Crawford said he will return to 135 and Spence cannot make that weight. Who Spence fights and how he looks in those fights over the next two years plus what he has already done should determine how he rates among the good welterweights of all time.
if spence has three fights left at 147 then he should fight:
1. pacman
2. crawford
3. thurman
that would give him 8 title defenses at 147 having unified and beat four hofers:
1. mikey garcia
2. shawn porter
3. pacman
4. crawford
trinidad had 15 title defenses but only defeated two hofers at 147
1. pernell
2. oscar
in conclusion errol has a chance to go down as a top 5 welterweight all time if he gets pac and crawford.
Ur really comparing sweet pea and Oscar to this era of welterweights?
How the hell are those guys future HOFers? That's ridiculous, only one who has a shot is Crawford but he's pissing it away fighting mediocre opponents well into his mid 30's.
if arturo gatti and steve buchanan are in the HOF then shawn porter and mikey garcia are getting in.
if spence has three fights left at 147 then he should fight:
1. pacman
2. crawford
3. thurman
that would give him 8 title defenses at 147 having unified and beat four hofers:
1. mikey garcia
2. shawn porter
3. pacman
4. crawford
trinidad had 15 title defenses but only defeated two hofers at 147
1. pernell
2. oscar
in conclusion errol has a chance to go down as a top 5 welterweight all time if he gets pac and crawford.
How the hell are those guys future HOFers? That's ridiculous, only one who has a shot is Crawford but he's pissing it away fighting mediocre opponents well into his mid 30's.
Always higher than bud til bud fights 4 top 10opponents in there prime spence got brook n took his belt broke other half of face though brook kinda was damage goods from ggg fight. Spence got both garcias and n a close porter who bud got anyone top 10 at the time. Spence -3 fights probably add thurman maybe ugas. Then 154 honestly if beat charlo n lara n take belts he wouldnt need crawford n we know somewhere in there hes going 160 for 1 fight take ggg belt in 2022 for ggg wouldve aged out n then hes pulling a cotto n part time canelo with the catchweights for a title. Milking his legacy as a 3 division champ tech.
He has to fight bud there will be a mark on his resume If he doesn't fight him.
I agree 100%, but based off the two tiers of wins, and say he’s 30-0 21 KOS after either, where does he stack up?
That fast?
I thought welterweight division is much deeper
The PBC had it on lock for a while, unfortunately for them all of the names are either;
A) getting older
Or
B) have already mixed and matched against each other before.
All the while they haven't really produced too many other potential welter weight stars.
In fact, all of the PBC WW names were pre manufactured elsewhere and bought out by Haymon in the genesis of the PBC. It is interesting to see what will happen once their names lose even more luster.
if spence has three fights left at 147 then he should fight:
1. pacman
2. crawford
3. thurman
that would give him 8 title defenses at 147 having unified and beat four hofers:
1. mikey garcia
2. shawn porter
3. pacman
4. crawford
trinidad had 15 title defenses but only defeated two hofers at 147
1. pernell
2. oscar
in conclusion errol has a chance to go down as a top 5 welterweight all time if he gets pac and crawford.
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