But he beat Derevyanchenko.
If you are going by YOUR math and so called “logic” nearly every fighter in history, Floyd included has a much worse resume..
all elite champs have more than one or two top contender defences, let alone floyd.
no upside down world answers please, save them for your own dimensional universe.
You say that as if the extra 10 Lbs would've made Pavlik less robotic or match up better with Hopkins, he wouldn't have been competitive at any weight because Hopkins is a master at taking away his opponents best weapon (especially when one dimensional), which was Pavliks right hand and would be GGG's left hook in this case. Same with Trinidad. Hopkins is physically bigger than GGG too as well, probably even more so than he was against Pavlik. Fact of the matter is, the only top level fighter that GGG fought, he arguably lost 2x to and the other one (Jacobs), was controversial as well. Most thought Derevyanchenko also beat him. Where's the power vs top opposition? He's not in B-Hops league. Just stating Ed facts
The 10lbs would not have made any difference and I won a lot of money on that fight and said it would be a shut out for Hopkins as a Pavlik is as predictable as any champion I’ve ever seen, GGG has ACTUAL boxing skill unlike jab, jab right hand Pavlik.
As for power GGG still hits like a mile the difference is top fighters only found their bottle once he hit 36 and started slipping, I called this back in the Monroe fight, the snap had gone from his punches, but obviously you think that all he’s got is a punch if you are comparing him to Pavlik, a fighter prime for prime Golovkin would ruin.
Hopkins career is a master of smoke and mirrors, fact remains at 160 he only fought one top tier, athletic true 160 fighter in Taylor and went 0-2.
I agree, you are done if you’re reduced to latching onto that.
B- level fighter with rudimentary skills and A-ish level athleticism. “Outstanding” doe...
Overstated or ydksab, one or the other.
you were done in my very first reply to your idiot question...
beating a ATG TWICE is... outstanding
very few fighters have ever done that
you are a Captain-Save-A-Hoe clown LMAO
exceptional
ADJECTIVE
unusual; not typical.
unusual · uncommon · abnormal · outstanding . atypical · extraordinary · out of the ordinary
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I agree, you are done if you’re reduced to latching onto that.
B- level fighter with rudimentary skills and A-ish level athleticism. “Outstanding” doe...
Overstated or ydksab, one or the other.
GGG and Pavlik fight nothing alike, plus poor analogy as Pavlik had to come up 10lbs, just as Wright had to too make the fight.
You say that as if the extra 10 Lbs would've made Pavlik less robotic or match up better with Hopkins, he wouldn't have been competitive at any weight because Hopkins is a master at taking away his opponents best weapon (especially when one dimensional), which was Pavliks right hand and would be GGG's left hook in this case. Same with Trinidad. Hopkins is physically bigger than GGG too as well, probably even more so than he was against Pavlik. Fact of the matter is, the only top level fighter that GGG fought, he arguably lost 2x to and the other one (Jacobs), was controversial as well. Most thought Derevyanchenko also beat him. Where's the power vs top opposition? He's not in B-Hops league. Just stating facts
Hopkins vs Pavlik all over again. Hopkins IQ is too high to be backed up against the ropes and walked down like that (literally never happened in his prime). He takes away GGG's hook, keeps the fight in the center of the ring and outclasses GGG. Not even a hard fight IMO. A naturally smaller Canelo backed GGG up and out boxed him in the rematch, you can't expect anything less from a prime X.
GGG and Pavlik fight nothing alike, plus poor analogy as Pavlik had to come up 10lbs, just as Wright had to too make the fight.
heres the math -
top contenders he fought -
canelo -loss
jacobs - win
derev - loss
so thats 66% loss with top contenders. Which is exactly what 8 out of 12 is.
So I mean ANY genuine top contender.
But he beat Derevyanchenko.
If you are going by YOUR math and so called “logic” nearly every fighter in history, Floyd included has a much worse resume.
Also statistically you should have or at least would have left it at 66%, 8 out of 12 is false and misleading.
Korobov beat Charlo don’t you know.
some of his fans think that Danny Jacobs is a killer who would also have beaten Hopkins LMAO
taking till your 36 to face an actual number one contender.
and then losing against the next one.
means you were aware all along that you were going to lose half the time against the top contenders...thats why you left it late.
hardly ATG stuff.
Dont get me wrong, once he started fighting top level, it was genuine title reign. But its nothing more than anyone else who only beat one top contender.
Which top 12 contenders, in which he loses 8 are you speaking of?
heres the math -
top contenders he fought -
canelo -loss
jacobs - win
derev - loss
so thats 66% loss with top contenders. Which is exactly what 8 out of 12 is.
So I mean ANY genuine top contender.
This is getting repetitive. I think your memory is a bit hazy. If you don’t wanna go back and watch the fights and explain what was “outstanding” about him, that’s fine. Then just don’t come in here calling a B- fighter “outstanding” and nobody will ask you to.
Never outstanding...having wins on paper vs a 40 yr old who needed to move up in weight doesn’t automatically = “outstanding”, especially when he arguably lost. Was he outstanding vs smaller opponents spinks or Wright?
he was a decent fighter with exceptional athleticism
exceptional
ADJECTIVE
unusual; not typical.
unusual · uncommon · abnormal · outstanding . atypical · extraordinary · out of the ordinary
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Captain-Save-A-Hoe, you were done when you said this...
FACT: Canelo > Golovkin
FACT: Hopkins > Golovkin
FACT: beating a genuine ATG... TWICE... is, outstanding
This is getting repetitive. I think your memory is a bit hazy. If you don’t wanna go back and watch the fights and explain what was “outstanding” about him, that’s fine. Then just don’t come in here calling a B- fighter “outstanding” and nobody will ask you to.
Never outstanding...having wins on paper vs a 40 yr old who needed to move up in weight doesn’t automatically = “outstanding”, especially when he arguably lost. Was he outstanding vs smaller opponents spinks or Wright?
LMao I respect you for ****ting on these Borat fanboys but honestly you wasted too much time. they are braindead.
still waiting for that dropkick to give me those names LMAO
... and, still waiting for Captain-Save-A-Hoe to make a post that does not blurt out unnecessary, childish, excuses, for his latest girlfriend
#fanboys
#shameful
I guess that’s a wrap, you’ve pretty well conceded. All you had to say is, yea maybe calling him outstanding was a bit of an overstatement.
Captain-Save-A-Hoe, you were done when you said this...
he was a decent fighter with exceptional athleticism
FACT: Canelo > Golovkin
FACT: Hopkins > Golovkin
FACT: beating a genuine ATG... TWICE... is, outstanding
Hopkins vs Pavlik all over again. Hopkins IQ is too high to be backed up against the ropes and walked down like that (literally never happened in his prime). He takes away GGG's hook, keeps the fight in the center of the ring and outclasses GGG. Not even a hard fight IMO. A naturally smaller Canelo backed GGG up and out boxed him in the rematch, you can't expect anything less from a prime X.
FACT: YOU said that dumb shlt, NOT ME !!
so proving that dumb shlt, is on YOU !
NAMES kid, nothing else matters...
YOU drop some names from Hypekins resume, that prove he is a ATG
waiting...
kid, do you really think nobody noticed that you cannot drop those names? :lol1:
LMao I respect you for ****ting on these Borat fanboys but honestly you wasted too much time. they are braindead.
FACT: Canelo > Golovkin
FACT: Hopkins > Golovkin
FACT: beating a genuine ATG... TWICE... is, outstanding
sorry if those facts filled your vaglna with sand
ooops, nearly forgot...
I guess that’s a wrap, you’ve pretty well conceded. All you had to say is, yea maybe calling him outstanding was a bit of an overstatement.
FACT: YOU said that dumb shlt, NOT ME !!
so proving that dumb shlt, is on YOU !
NAMES kid, nothing else matters...
YOU drop some names from Hypekins resume, that prove he is a ATG
waiting...
kid, do you really think nobody noticed that you cannot drop those names? :lol1:
GGG is an ATG at 160, change my mind.
Top 10 then we can talk kid, we can actually debate, you’ll lose, then you can go back to your mums basement and fire up your alts.
FACT: YOU said that dumb shlt, NOT ME !!
so proving that dumb shlt, is on YOU !
NAMES kid, nothing else matters...
YOU drop some names from Hypekins resume, that prove he is a ATG
waiting...
kid, do you really think nobody noticed that you cannot drop those names? :lol1:
based on who ?
give us those names, or crawl back to your hole, fanboy
waiting... still... :lol1:
huh, what was that... did you just say David Lemieux? loooooool
Hypekin got dished up by a second-tier middleweight who LOST to Jacobs... and truth be known, he likely lost that fight with Danny Jacobs as well
he went life-n-death with Ouma ffs :lol1:
give us those names, or crawl back to your hole, fanboy
Top 10 then we can talk kid, we can actually debate, you’ll lose, then you can go back to your mums basement and fire up your alts.