Errol Spence Jr vs Danny Garcia Generated in Excess of 250,000 Buys

I think around 13k is what football is limiting it to, but considering the ring is a lot smaller than a football field I could see why they would let more people in Yea I dont understand it either. By all accounts fighters are happy with haymon, unlike top rank who is constantly making in house fights and is in and out of court with almost every worthwhile fighter they develop. That's really cool and all, but how long do these "ufc stars" they develop last? And how much do they make? I understand people bashing ppv numbers compared to the UFC, but considering that Spence and danny probably made 10 times what most fighters make on a UFC ppv in one night and have future options to make more it's really all just smoke and mirrors. Most ufc "stars" are here today gone tomorrow. It's a very small percentage that even come close to what top boxers make. very true...also i hate any time someone compares ufc to boxing...two completely different models...the ufc is a brand/league.....like the nfl or nba....boxing is a sport that spans the globe and isnt unified

So in other words it did 200k Yes all numbers are fake and nothing is real. We'll just reduce everyone's numbers.

That is OK in this ERA of boxing in which fans seems to be less in less interested in PROFFESSIONAL BOXING and would rather watch The Paul Brothers and KSI Box over Professionals. The Legends are still a bigger draw than the Current fighter. People will rather watch Mike Tyson and Floyd Mayweather fight anybody instead of these PROS and the Powers that be in Boxing should be very concerned about that and what they can do to fix that Fighters Be more Interactive with your fans, stop disappearing then showing up a few weeks before your fight asking people to buy your fight. I'm sure FOX will push hard for Spence vs Pacquiao on their Platform which would indeed do big numbers. I personally don't think Spence Jr vs Crawford is the mega fight that would do Big Numbers JUST YET. It would do MAYBE 600K if they're lucky but I just don't hear enough interest from Casuals on that fight just yet Boxing fans are completely interested in boxing. Spence choosing to fight Danny Garcia over Terrence Crawford has everything to do with the small buys. Floyd and Manny are ATGs and they were blessed to be surrounded by HOFs and ATGs in Mosley, Cotto, and JMM which they could take turns fighting and compare/contrast performances. None of Thurman, Danny, or Porter are HOF let alone ATG. Terrence Crawford, undefeated through 3 divisions, 1 of 2 lineal/undisputed fighters in past 10-15 years, PFP #1, highest KO% at WW...is very likely already HOF and has a few more fights to make his case for ATG. Thurman nearly lost to legit journeyman Josesito Lopez and Luis Collazo in his prime and squeaked by Porter and Danny before losing to an old shot Manny. Porter lost to Kell Brook and Ugas and Spence and Thurman and edged Danny...literally zero other meaningful wins Danny lost to Spence, Porter, Thurman, Herrera but he did have a decent run at 140 including Khan and Matthyse...worthless at 147 though...see Salka and Redkach...who? Terrence is accused of not having best opposition but hes undefeated across 3 weight classes and has never had a close fight. He was NEVER almost KTFO by Josesito Lopez or Luis Collazo. He was never beaten by Kell Brook or Ugas or Thurman. He was never gifted a decision against Ugas or Herrera. Most importantly Terrence has been begging PBC fighters to fight him yet they - collectively - have refused citing promotional differences...yet PBC is a manager and NOT a promoter. Terrence is already HOF and will hopefully get a few fights to make ATG case

More and more fighters are asking purses above their own worth. Bingo!!!!!

Oh, so this is an anti-Al Haymon thing. Any numbers that come out about PBC ppv's doing well you'll dismiss as fake because you have an agenda. Got it. You guys are super obsessed with that name, I don’t give a toss about Haymon, Arum, Hearn... You and your cheerleaders can worship their feet and I laugh at you idiots. When you know you have been hit with objectivity, you resort to what you come out with here ..:pat:

Oh, so this is an anti-Al Haymon thing. Any numbers that come out about PBC ppv's doing well you'll dismiss as fake because you have an agenda. Got it. that guy isn’t very bright

It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know that. Boxing has been putting out fake numbers for years. UFC don’t do cross promotion with Bellator or anyone else, so they have no need to lie when they are filing the numbers or put not disclose it. Boxing however have to lie about their numbers due to the chances of them working with another promotional outfit, you create the illusion that your fighter is big and people who are gullible (Like yourself) would eat it up and go along with it.:rofl: Oh, so this is an anti-Al Haymon thing. Any numbers that come out about PBC ppv's doing well you'll dismiss as fake because you have an agenda. Got it.

Nobody: Curt Henning: Did you know Leo named his kid after Al Hymen? just because you dont like it doesnt make it untrue....what leo did speaks volumes...guys are happy and love al and al shows them love back my favorite thing to watch was everyone blaming al and richard schaeffer for what went down at golden boy years ago....when golden boy was running great and was a big and powerful as ever...by all accounts what schaeffer and haymon were doing at golden boy was "winning".....but when oscar came in and broke it up and started filing lawsuits everyone was like "yeah FOCK al haymon...FOCK richard schaeffer those filthy crooks"...yet golden boy was doing as well as ever...people just didnt understand their model and couldnt fathom not having long term deals and all that BS they complained about fast forward years later....al haymons guys are happy as fock.....and oscars biggest star...the biggest star in boxing....just split because of oscar lol __________________

my favorite thing to watch was everyone blaming al and richard schaeffer for what went down at golden boy years ago....when golden boy was running great and was a big and powerful as ever...by all accounts what schaeffer and haymon were doing at golden boy was "winning".....but when oscar came in and broke it up and started filing lawsuits everyone was like "yeah FOCK al haymon...FOCK richard schaeffer those filthy crooks"...yet golden boy was doing as well as ever...people just didnt understand their model and couldnt fathom not having long term deals and all that BS they complained about fast forward years later....al haymons guys are happy as fock.....and oscars biggest star...the biggest star in boxing....just split because of oscar lol

So in other words it did 200k More likely. I mean it the perfect crime, feed the “Source” and coppinger puts out something that would look “Decent”.... fact is if they have to do a cross promotion with Crawford and they claim they are the A-side, they would have to open their books and prove it. That’s where the whole thing would end, because the real numbers would probably not come anywhere close to what they are telling the public.

How do you know which numbers are fake or not? Why do you think 1.3m is real? It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know that. Boxing has been putting out fake numbers for years. UFC don’t do cross promotion with Bellator or anyone else, so they have no need to lie when they are filing the numbers or put not disclose it. Boxing however have to lie about their numbers due to the chances of them working with another promotional outfit, you create the illusion that your fighter is big and people who are gullible (Like yourself) would eat it up and go along with it.:rofl:

Even at the same pricing UFC are outselling boxing in America. We do have our backs against the wall. The fact that the numbers are also mostly fake shows how bad boxing is getting in America. Pricing and unwanted fights are one of the major issues with that. You have Usman v Jorge M selling 1.3m buys. I mean you compare that to these lot and you just laugh with their fake numbers. How do you know which numbers are fake or not? Why do you think 1.3m is real?

For those b!tcbing about this ppv and any others that dont sell well, blame yourselves. At this point, comparing our ppv numbers is pointless. Their ppvs are usually cheaper, have more championship fights on the card, have regular free fights all the time and they cater to the younger audience. Until boxing can replicate that to some degree, there'll never be a comparison, barring an AJ or Saul fight. But even then, look what McG did. And Adesanya just pulled 700k. We got our backs against the wall... https://www.tapology.com/search/mma-event-figures/ppv-pay-per-view-buys-buyrate Even at the same pricing UFC are outselling boxing in America. We do have our backs against the wall. The fact that the numbers are also mostly fake shows how bad boxing is getting in America. Pricing and unwanted fights are one of the major issues with that. You have Usman v Jorge M selling 1.3m buys. I mean you compare that to these lot and you just laugh with their fake numbers.

Those are decent numbers for this era and a number that Spence can consistently hit. Crawford by comparison only sold around 125,000 against Amir Khan. If Errol fights Pacquiao and Thurman next year I would expect him to do even higher. He'll earn very good money in 2021 while Crawford rots away in the Top Rank Protection Program.

I dont give a **** about numbers, but a 70 years old mike did more than a million buys on a network nobody knows, and this did 300k and people claiming its good? Damn, GGG got **** for doing these numbers how on earth is this "fine" People say, in GGG's only best win, Lemieux, he did 97k on PPV. That's why some famously know him as Mr. 97k, fair or not.

For those b!tcbing about this ppv and any others that dont sell well, blame yourselves. At this point, comparing our ppv numbers is pointless. Their ppvs are usually cheaper, have more championship fights on the card, have regular free fights all the time and they cater to the younger audience. Until boxing can replicate that to some degree, there'll never be a comparison, barring an AJ or Saul fight. But even then, look what McG did. And Adesanya just pulled 700k. We got our backs against the wall... https://www.tapology.com/search/mma-event-figures/ppv-pay-per-view-buys-buyrate

Boxing vs UFC comparisons are getting old. I couldn’t care less how much MMA events sell compared To Boxing because they are two different sports and I dont know too Many hardcore Boxing fans who are into MMA. Boxing just needs to get cleaned up a bit.

That's because these professionals ain't giving the fans what we want. Spence-Garcia should not even have been a PPV. The void of true superfights is being filled with freakshow fights. It was amazing that Thurman-Porter and Thurman-Danny was not even ppv. It was Thurman who really returned great welterweight fights to free tv.

yeah it did do 16k...im not entirely sure if that was their max capacity but if i had to bet id say it was around that I think around 13k is what football is limiting it to, but considering the ring is a lot smaller than a football field I could see why they would let more people in some of you guys want al haymon to fail so desperately its very pathetic...you dont have a shred of evidence of it happening you said hed be out out business years ago=he aint his fighters love him...hes still making fights....all of the evidence points to al being well liked and good and successful at what he does...yet no matter what he does theres always the same group of people coming in and trying to piss all over it give it up and try to do something productive and be happy instead of being miserable for a change Yea I dont understand it either. By all accounts fighters are happy with haymon, unlike top rank who is constantly making in house fights and is in and out of court with almost every worthwhile fighter they develop. UFC are just better at building up NEW STARS! UFC can lose McGregor and yet still Crack 1 Million buys without him with a big fights so they don't depend on just 1 Fighters to carrying the brand they try to build up multiple stars! They have massive followings on Youtube and Social Media so it is much easier for them as well. UFC have more followers on their Social Media Pages than every Boxing Promotion COMBINED and it is not even close! UFC has 24 Million Followers on Instagram. Top Rank, PBC, Matchroom all together I don't even think has 2 Million Followers COMEBINED on Instagram That's really cool and all, but how long do these "ufc stars" they develop last? And how much do they make? I understand people bashing ppv numbers compared to the UFC, but considering that Spence and danny probably made 10 times what most fighters make on a UFC ppv in one night and have future options to make more it's really all just smoke and mirrors. Most ufc "stars" are here today gone tomorrow. It's a very small percentage that even come close to what top boxers make.

lol...yet none of these guys ever walk away from al or the pbc....and guys are always thanking uncle al on tv...and some fighters are even naming their kids after him.........i guess with all that evidence its you who gets its all and understand it! yeah the pbc is inflating numbers and the guys arent making any real money! lol...****ing imbeciles i swear...if guys were leaving the pbc and happy to get out from under al ASAP you might have a legit point some of you are worse than the left wing/libs...those guys need a daily dose of trump/GOP hate or they go insane....watching some of you is no different...anyone involved with al haymon has a thread? let me go get my daily fix!!! lol....unreal watching some of you so called "men".... haymons guys love him and haymon is good at what he does..hes successful....when he stops doing ppvs then ill agree or say that ppv is dead...till then he wouldnt be doing them if he was himself and people money some of you idiots have no real idea what haymon does and how he does it.....its not that hard to see and understand but some of you really have 0 idea how haymon sets it all up beautifully and eliminates the arum types and puts more bread into his fighters pockets Nobody: Curt Henning: Did you know Leo named his kid after Al Hymen?