the blame wasn't on tszyu either, he was 36 yrs. old, barely active, and was looking for a well-deserved career cash out fight, and floyd wasn't gonna provide that.
Well yeah, I wouldn’t say Tszyu avoided it.
Floyd seemed a lot more interested than Tszyu but neither were at much fault. The deal was hard to make from the get go.
Floyd wouldn’t have got any credit for that win anyway it would have been deemed an old, past prime fighter.
Read the last post,
This is what I wrote;
Originally Posted by sugar ray lenrd View Post
False??? He never fought Tszyu is that a fact? So how could that be a false? Floyd may have wanted the fight, but his people didn’t want it. End of story...he didn’t fight the best available and that’s a FACT!
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Sugar Ray Leonard
Ok and again that’s false.
His team did want the fight. Floyd and everyone involved with Floyd wanted that fight with Tszyu at the time.
He was very vocal about that and they tried to make it.
It’s false because you’re saying Floyd didn’t want it which is patently false. He did want it. And his people wanted the fight.
You’re putting the blame on Floyd when there were two parties involved.
He did fight the highest available, he wanted Kosta Tsyzu badly, when that fell out, the next highest ranked guy was Gatti.
That’s what happened.
the blame wasn't on tszyu either, he was 36 yrs. old, barely active, and was looking for a well-deserved career cash out fight, and floyd wasn't gonna provide that.
Floyd fought everyone.....
Just not in their primes aside from Hatton, Castillo and Corrales.
You can make a case for Canelo, but I believe that he would KO Floyd now. Floyd knew he was way too green at the time.
It’s false because you’re saying Floyd didn’t want it which is patently false. He did want it. And his people wanted the fight.
You’re putting the blame on Floyd when there were two parties involved.
He did fight the highest available, he wanted Kosta Tsyzu badly, when that fell out, the next highest ranked guy was Gatti.
That’s what happened.
Read the last post,
This is what I wrote;
Originally Posted by sugar ray lenrd View Post
False??? He never fought Tszyu is that a fact? So how could that be a false? Floyd may have wanted the fight, but his people didn’t want it. End of story...he didn’t fight the best available and that’s a FACT!
....
Sugar Ray Leonard
False??? He never fought Tszyu is that a fact? So how could that be a false? Floyd may have wanted the fight, but his people didn’t want it. End of story...he didn’t fight the best available and that’s a FACT!
It’s false because you’re saying Floyd didn’t want it which is patently false. He did want it. And his people wanted the fight.
You’re putting the blame on Floyd when there were two parties involved.
He did fight the highest available, he wanted Kosta Tsyzu badly, when that fell out, the next highest ranked guy was Gatti.
That’s what happened.
Did you see what Vince Phillips Hatton and Hector Lopez did to KT, Floyd would have washed Kostya.
Yes I did. But this is boxing, what one fight outcome doesn’t have any bearing on the outcome of the other. In other words styles make fight.
Case in point;
Frazier drops & beats Ali in their first fight, Foreman ko’s Frazier, Ali ko’s Foreman.
You’re a boxing fan you know That.
No, that’s false.
Floyd wanted the fight, we know that. He was very vocal about that and tried to make the fight.
It didn’t happen and it was no fault of his own and Gatti only came into the picture when Tszyu couldn’t be made.
False??? He never fought Tszyu is that a fact? So how could that be a false? Floyd may have wanted the fight, but his people didn’t want it. End of story...he didn’t fight the best available and that’s a FACT!
At the end of the day... Floyd never fought Tszyu. Did yo see what Tszyu did to Zab & this was an undefeated Zab! Wrong Floyd’s people didn’t want that fight! What is it that you don’t get? You do the math...
Tszyu or Gatti? You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure that out. He never fought him... it’s history now.
Floyd is
TBE The Best Earner!
Did you see what Vince Phillips Hatton and Hector Lopez did to KT, Floyd would have washed Kostya.
At the end of the day... Floyd never fought Tszyu. Did yo see what Tszyu did to Zab & this was an undefeated Zab! Wrong Floyd’s people didn’t want that fight! What is it that you don’t get? You do the math...
Tszyu or Gatti? You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure that out. He never fought him... it’s history now.
Floyd is
TBE The Best Earner!
No, that’s false.
Floyd wanted the fight, we know that. He was very vocal about that and tried to make the fight.
It didn’t happen and it was no fault of his own and Gatti only came into the picture when Tszyu couldn’t be made.
Wrong! His nick name was not money yet. It is what it is he didn’t go for it. Some fighters want to earned all the belts to show they are the best no exceptions.
This reply makes absolutely no sense
Hatton, de la Hoya, Mosley, Judah, cotto, canelo, Maidana, Pacquiao, corralles were low risk fights? Low risk of what?
****in Casuals smh
Casuals? You know nothing about me!!
With MOST of those fights they were low(er) risk high reward. De La Hoya was past it but still a big name, Pac fight was years too late when Pac stood less of a chance but still a huge PPV. When he fought Hatton there were much tougher fights out there but due to Hattons name and profile in the UK it made it a huge fight. What Maidana who had been beaten by Khan, Kotelnik and Alexander, I’m the casual hahaha
You’re proving my point here, these fights were high reward as they were big fights, but low risk as the fighters were past it or had overinflated rankings or status vs their ability
I say most, agree fights such a Canelo it simply came down to it being the biggest money fight out there.
If I’m wrong who doesn’t Mayweather make a proper comeback rather than fighting exhibitions because it’s low risk high reward
The thread is why didn’t he unify, because he was all about the money, there were tougher fights available that might have picked up more belts but they were harder fights and wouldn’t have generated as much in PPV money
Right but he wanted the Tszyu fight. It couldn’t be made and wasn’t at the fault of Floyd’s team. If Floyd had it his way he’d have been fighting Tszyu.
Instead he fought Gatti who was the next highest ranked option.
Too much for Floyd? :lol1: Ok, how’s the weather over there in your fantasy land?
At the end of the day... Floyd never fought Tszyu. Did yo see what Tszyu did to Zab & this was an undefeated Zab! Wrong Floyd’s people didn’t want that fight! What is it that you don’t get? You do the math...
Tszyu or Gatti? You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure that out. He never fought him... it’s history now.
Floyd is
TBE The Best Earner!
It is what it is... Floyd’s people eventually didn’t make the fight against Tszyu
If you’re the best you fight the best not Gatti. Tszyu at that time was too much for Floyd.
Right but he wanted the Tszyu fight. It couldn’t be made and wasn’t at the fault of Floyd’s team. If Floyd had it his way he’d have been fighting Tszyu.
Instead he fought Gatti who was the next highest ranked option.
Too much for Floyd? :lol1: Ok, how’s the weather over there in your fantasy land?
Floyd made it very clear that at 140 he wants Kosta Tszyu. That’s the fight he wanted.
There were even talks of the fight between the networks back then, HBO and Showtime. But a deal wasn’t to be made.
Once those talks died he moved on to Gatti who was the next highest ranked fighter at 140.
It is what it is... Floyd’s people eventually didn’t make the fight against Tszyu
If you’re the best you fight the best not Gatti. Tszyu at that time was too much for Floyd.
Yet he wasnt afraid of the guy who beat the ever loving piss out of Margarito...seems legit.
Don’t matter he never fought Margarito... it is what it is, he didn’t want no part of him... it’s history now. Floyd retired when the division was hotter than the Welterwgt division that we have now. We had Margarito, Mosley, Cotto,Paul Williams & Floyd. And out of no where, he retires...
Where is your proof that he wanted Tszyu? Gatti was already damaged goods, he was beaten Angel Manfredy.
Floyd made it very clear that at 140 he wants Kosta Tszyu. That’s the fight he wanted.
There were even talks of the fight between the networks back then, HBO and Showtime. But a deal wasn’t to be made.
Once those talks died he moved on to Gatti who was the next highest ranked fighter at 140.
Margarito was the WBO Champion, correct.
But Carlos Baldomir was THE Champion. Baldomir was ranked #1 in 2006 as he was the Champion.
Don’t matter Although I don’t like MargoCheato he was much better than Baldimir