Did Ali, SRL, or RJJ duck anyone?

I remember SRL saying ''I will never fight that man.'' That man being kinda prime Hagler. He eventually fought the shell of the man.

It was certainly a risky decision too because Leonard wasn't gettin any younger himself, plus he had been out of the ring for awhile. One could argue that he was preserving himself, but the flip side of that is having to knock off rust after a long period of inactivity. you cannot duck a fighter who is naturally 2 weights below you....on that basis mayweather ducked gennady golovkin lol

A lot of ppl's boxing knowledge goes back to Floyd & that has more cons than pros. One of the most obvious is: all the "ducking" & protecting your "O" started with him. SRL was a diva, like Canelo is & Ryan Garcia is. For every fighter the fans say ain't ducking anybody there seems to always be fans will who will say he is/has & vice versa. I don't think there's anybody who's been labeled a diva that realistically hasn't ducked someone. But I also think the word "ducking" is once of the most incorrectly used words if not the most, in boxing. "I'll fight Tommy Hearns when he's as popular as Roberto Duran" these words he'd be crucified for in this era.you don’t know what your talking about lol....leonard boxed hearns just 10 months after the 2nd Duran fight. it was Dundee who wanted the fight to become even juicier and more worldwide not leonard....you don’t duck a fighter when he is just 22 lol

SRR lost by a very large amount to Ralph Jones at age 32 and never rematched him. It seems like he should have. Yup, one of the main reasons I have him #2 on my list. King May had two semi-close fights in his entire career and he respectively rematches both fighters. Both of them.

RJJ arguably ducked a prime Calzaghe. Dude, don't say stupid shit. Edit: Oh man, realized this was an old thread and I already laughed my ass off at this comment.

Roy Jones whole super middle campaign was bs. After he beat Toney in 94, he did absolutely nothing until he moved up to 175. There were fights out there for him and I think they were all fights he would have won, but for some reason, he wanted to fight the Bryant Brannons and tony thortons of the world. I don't understand it. That was around the time he signed a big HBO contract and was ok fighting low risk bums for guaranteed money.

Roy Jones whole super middle campaign was bs. After he beat Toney in 94, he did absolutely nothing until he moved up to 175. There were fights out there for him and I think they were all fights he would have won, but for some reason, he wanted to fight the Bryant Brannons and tony thortons of the world. I don't understand it.

Quit trying to pass off your OPINION as fact and Ive been a serious boxing fan since before you were born so skip that noob shyte in your rectum. Ali duck Mike falking Weaver to fight Larry Holmes? Thats among the dumbest things Ive ever read on NSB and thats saying a helluva lot. Are you posting for shock value or are you so dumb that you actually believe that? - - Actually, it be Holmesy who did the majority ducking in his era as a long time single belt holder. Medically impaired Ali was easy $$$ by then.

Apparently Pryor admitted years later that he turned down an offer of 750K for the fight. That was way more money then than it is now. Yeah that was 1980 I think, he was demanding 7 figures. As you say that’s a lot more than it sounds.

Respect your insight. I'll rephrase and say that SRL waited until he saw enough of a decline in the Marvelous one's abilities that he felt he could overcome the natural size difference. Not a duck but a smart tactical decision. It was certainly a risky decision too because Leonard wasn't gettin any younger himself, plus he had been out of the ring for awhile. One could argue that he was preserving himself, but the flip side of that is having to knock off rust after a long period of inactivity.

Nah they pretty much fought everyone. Roy and Dariusz Michalczeeski should have fought but they’re both at fault for that not happening, I wouldn’t say one ducked the other. Ray and Pryor should have fought too and it was all but agreed but didn’t happen for legitimate reasons. The only guy Ali plausibly could’ve fought but didn’t was Cuban amateur superstar Teofilo Stevenson but Stevenson repeatedly rejected offers to fight professionally. Apparently Pryor admitted years later that he turned down an offer of 750K for the fight. That was way more money then than it is now.

Quit trying to pass off your OPINION as fact and I’ve been a serious boxing fan since before you were born so skip that noob shyte in your rectum. Ali duck Mike falking Weaver to fight Larry Holmes? That’s among the dumbest things I’ve ever read on NSB and that’s saying a helluva lot. Are you posting for shock value or are you so dumb that you actually believe that? Green when I recharge!!!

RJJ arguably ducked a prime Calzaghe. Joe C was rent less and threw 20 piece combinations!!! Calzage is a warrior.. I like fro here a lot too...

Literally so many Floyd could've fought

Quit trying to pass off your OPINION as fact and I’ve been a serious boxing fan since before you were born so skip that noob shyte in your rectum. Ali duck Mike falking Weaver to fight Larry Holmes? That’s among the dumbest things I’ve ever read on NSB and that’s saying a helluva lot. Are you posting for shock value or are you so dumb that you actually believe that? Yeah, given Ali's track record, I don't think that's a duck. Sounds like he wanted highest reward type of fight.

You aren't arguing with me, you are arguing with facts noob. It wasn't a smart move to fight either. Ali should have been retired at that point. They didn't want him fighting a puncher at that stage though. Quit trying to pass off your OPINION as fact and I’ve been a serious boxing fan since before you were born so skip that noob shyte in your rectum. Ali duck Mike falking Weaver to fight Larry Holmes? That’s among the dumbest things I’ve ever read on NSB and that’s saying a helluva lot. Are you posting for shock value or are you so dumb that you actually believe that?

At the time Ali and his people wanted Tate. Tate got murdered By Weaver. Ali and his people didn't want Weaver because he punched to hard, So they fought Larry Holmes instead. And the rest as they say Is history. So despite making 5x the money for 5x the prestige in a fight 5x as difficult, by fighting Holmes, it was a duck by Ali for not fighting Weaver? A fighter with 12 losses (Holmes was undefeated) ? A fighter Holmes had easily beaten a year before? Really stupid, borderline ******ed.

Bro, Leonard hired a private investigator to follow Hagler around and report back on when he was out of shape, etc. That sounds like made up ****. Plus we know that SRL was broke so he didn't have the kind of bread to throw around for a PI.

Its not really a duck avoiding a guy outside of your weight class, fighters are not wind up toys. Top level guys will fight anyone, the so called ducks are generally business decisions or management thinks their guy will lose. Fighters are tradesmen the best are specialists, their life is given to learning the trade, they dont fear a fight they understand a fight and what you fully understand you dont fear you respect, fear is conjured in the fan more than the fighter. Respect your insight. I'll rephrase and say that SRL waited until he saw enough of a decline in the Marvelous one's abilities that he felt he could overcome the natural size difference. Not a duck but a smart tactical decision.

I hear a lot about the alleged ducking Mayweather did, did those guys who were the GOATSs of the 70s, 80s, and 90s duck any great fighters during their career? - -I heared they goosed a few.