Great fight, especially from the winner Teo, both fighters were smart in there, Loma was kinda inactive in the first half of fight, but Teofimo was just bringing a lot to the table, speed, power, accuracy, feints, reach, timing, mind quickness.
I think 7-5 for Teo is the realest, most fair and accurate card so it was IMO a competitive fight, Teo did not dominate and Loma has no case for a win IMO.
But, Loma clearly won the second half of the fight (4 rounds out of 2).
Did Loma figured out Teo or was Teo getting too comfortable, tired or bored?
Everything seems to indicate that a rematch would be all wrong for Loma (Teo is the winner, younger and healthier fighter)
but usually, the fighter who dominated the late part of the first fight do better in a rematch see Fury vs Wilder, Ward vs Kova, Canelo vs GGG...
What's your point fellas?
Exactly how I see it man, I think both can improve upon the first fight.
Loma would obviously be much more aggressive early on but that would leave openings that Lopez could exploit.
I actually wanna see a rematch tbh.
Me too.... The first was close enough to warrant a rematch.
But like I say Loma would be more aggressive but it puts him more at risk of what he was avoiding the first fight. But after losing I think Loma willing to take that risk.
No, Loma is too small and short for 135, he is better suited for 130. Even though I view Loma as the smarter fighter (he came on strong during the late rounds), he just doesn't have the size for 135 and I don't think his body will ever acclimate to 135.
It's mainly that Loma does not increase his power moving up, he's light fisted and short as you said at 135, so with all the skills in the world, if you fight another guy who can box and is longer and has way more pop than you like Teo it will be a problem.
He can drop the Crolla of the world with punches they can't see at 135 but it won't impress or put pressure on guys like Lopez.
I think he would. He gave away the first 7 rounds by running and not throwing punches. He won rounds 8, 9 10 and 11 by out boxing and out fighting Lopez. Lopez won round 12 with a great attack. In a rematch Loma knows he can't give away early rounds and must try to win every round. He also knows what tactics work on Lopez from winning 4 strait rounds.
Maybe, but Loma didn't give away rounds, nobody does, it just that he needed 7 rounds to figure Teo's game out, and Teo became overconfident too trying to land big punches and not using mainly his jab like he did in the first 7 rounds.
Loma adjusted agreed, but hey, Lopez will be hell in the first 5 rounds with fresh power.
I totally agree that Loma lost the fight due to picking the wrong strategy but I do not think Teo BEAT Loma. He didn't really do much damage. If you look closely at rounds 9-11, you'll see that Teo had no idea what to do. Yes, he did grab the victory by bullying Loma the first half of the fight but that's about it.. I think if Loma adjusts his strategy, he can win.
But at the same time, he is already pushing his weight limits. Still, would love to see him try to take the belts back
He didn't really beat up Loma but he had Loma frozen and stole the show winning the first 6 rounds, not doing so much because Loma was literally not doing anything.
The fight started by the 7th since you need to be 2 to engage.
I don't think it was loma's choice to start slow, Teo had him gun shy, it just that I think they kinda underestimated Teo skills and speed and Loma was not ready for that, skills + speed + power + reach is a hard problem to solve.
I believe so.... I think he would open up sooner and take more chances.
Problem is.... Lopez gonna be more confident himself.
Exactly how I see it man, I think both can improve upon the first fight.
Loma would obviously be much more aggressive early on but that would leave openings that Lopez could exploit.
I actually wanna see a rematch tbh.
I think Loma adjusted to that jab, figured it out, and so took more risks, that jab is what worried him.
But doing so he took risks and lopez hurt him in the 12th.
I see a rematch competitive, better start from Loma but not that much, I see Loma doing better but his chance of losing by KO increasing.
I see a rematch 30% Lopez decision, 30% Lopez KO, 40% Loma decision.
Teo will be better in a rematch, but so will Loma, both are great smart dudes.Yeah, I agree....you are I are seeing the many scenarios that could play out which many fans only have tunnel vision and can't see different scenarios.
Loma only won 2 or 3 rounds. After 7 it was 7-0, round 12 was clear, so that's 8-0, Between rounds 8-11 it was very competitive, those rounds could all have went either way, so somewhere between 12-0 Lopez and 8-4 Lopez are the only possible scores. I had it 9-3 or 10-2 I can't remember. Not fussed about seeing it again as it was too one-sided to interest me that much. Maybe if Loma has a good comeback win against someone on the Luke Campbell level where he can look magic.Loma won rounds 8 9 10 and 11 just as clearly as Teo won rounds 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 and 12. Rounds 8 9 10 and 11 were not very competitive. Loma kicked his ass in those 4 rounds and had Lopez backing up and not liking what was happening to him at all. Maybe the memory of those 4 rounds is why Lopez refuses to give Loma a rematch. 10-2 in Lopez's favor is not correct.
No, Loma is too small and short for 135, he is better suited for 130. Even though I view Loma as the smarter fighter (he came on strong during the late rounds), he just doesn't have the size for 135 and I don't think his body will ever acclimate to 135.
I think he would. He gave away the first 7 rounds by running and not throwing punches. He won rounds 8, 9 10 and 11 by out boxing and out fighting Lopez. Lopez won round 12 with a great attack. In a rematch Loma knows he can't give away early rounds and must try to win every round. He also knows what tactics work on Lopez from winning 4 strait rounds.
When Loma was on he clearly won those rounds. He would have to start earlier but that will mean that he will get hit good also. The last round of the fight was very telling it what is going to happen if he engages early and often.
I think he def could and I would actually favor him. He's going to pick up the gas from round 1 and either win a dominant decision or get KTFO. It's a rather intriguing rematch.
I totally agree that Loma lost the fight due to picking the wrong strategy but I do not think Teo BEAT Loma. He didn't really do much damage. If you look closely at rounds 9-11, you'll see that Teo had no idea what to do. Yes, he did grab the victory by bullying Loma the first half of the fight but that's about it.. I think if Loma adjusts his strategy, he can win.
But at the same time, he is already pushing his weight limits. Still, would love to see him try to take the belts back
Many scenarios could play out:
-Loma starts earlier and does just enough to win a few early rounds and the comes on strong to win.
-Loma starts earlier and gets caught while Lopez' power is still fresh and is stopped.
-Loma by starting earlier has burned off some energy and doesn't have the reserve he had in the first fight to be able to turn it up late and loses more of the late rounds and loses the fight or is stopped late.
-Or we see vintage Loma using all his resources to win a lopsided decision.
The biggest problem is if it goes to a decision, what Judge will turn in a score like Julie Ledderman did? It seems to happen in every big fight.
I think Loma adjusted to that jab, figured it out, and so took more risks, that jab is what worried him.
But doing so he took risks and lopez hurt him in the 12th.
I see a rematch competitive, better start from Loma but not that much, I see Loma doing better but his chance of losing by KO increasing.
I see a rematch 30% Lopez decision, 30% Lopez KO, 40% Loma decision.
Teo will be better in a rematch, but so will Loma, both are great smart dudes.
Many scenarios could play out:
-Loma starts earlier and does just enough to win a few early rounds and the comes on strong to win.
-Loma starts earlier and gets caught while Lopez' power is still fresh and is stopped.
-Loma by starting earlier has burned off some energy and doesn't have the reserve he had in the first fight to be able to turn it up late and loses more of the late rounds and loses the fight or is stopped late.
-Or we see vintage Loma using all his resources to win a lopsided decision.
The biggest problem is if it goes to a decision, what Judge will turn in a score like Julie Ledderman did? It seems to happen in every big fight.
Why are people acting like this was a close fight! LMAO. Julie Lederman had it about right. Loma made it competitive between R8-11, the rest was one-sided. It's a fight I could never rewatch because it was just not competitive.
Because they saw a close fight, you didn't, people disagree, get over it.
I'm open minded but "Julie Lerderman had it right", she gave Loma one round, GTFOH.
JMM had Loma winning on the Mex TV, I think he was off, I think any card not being 6-6 or 7-5/8-4 Teo are off.
11-1 like Lederman is r3tarded. PERIOD, worst I have seen in a while, and they have been plenty of sht cards.
I was pretty disappointed in the game plan. After about 6 the announcers asked what was being said in Lomachenkos corner and they had said that Papachenko was telling Loma to remain patient which didn't make any sense to me because on my card he had lost 5 of the first 6 rounds.
And let me be clear and anyone who watched it, Lopez did not dominate those rounds. He won those rounds because he was more active than Loma. Did he hurt Loma at all? No. But between his inactivity and the piss poor bias from the announcers there was no way he was gonna win those rounds.
I think he could have turned it up sooner but was following instruction. At 135 I think as a pure boxer Lomachenko needs to grit it out. If he doesn't want that kind if fight he shouldn't be fighting at that weight. All my life I've been the smaller guy playing sports against much bigger men so my mentality is far different than his.
Robert Garcia put it best when he said Loma needs to go to a real gym where people want to kick his ass for real.
My biggest concern for Loma prefight was the uppercut put of the Philly stance. Turning and pivoting with a fighting who is changing the angle around you is usually death and is a huge indicator of low IQ. Lopez managed to make it work somehow and I didn't see why Loma did capitalize on that.
Probably because Loma doesn't through solid hooks. Many of his set ups are off double jabs moving to the outside.
Yes because he figured him out at the end winning 5 of the last 6 rounds and I doubt he goes in wth a hurt shoulder thats why Lopez say's no rematch. Look at fighters of the past did they ever say no rematch in a close fight? Even Mayweather gave Madaina and Castillo rematches over his questionable wins