Should Canelo Even Sign With a Network?

No, this was reported by multiple people. Those were the opponents DAZN considered as "premiere." So Canelo can't fight other champions now? Those are no longer worthy match ups? DAZN and GBP are not in the business of losing money and having fights for free. Why would they schedule a fight when they know it's not going to sell? Canelo would mop the floor with those "champions".

He needs to stay a free agent and go to highest bidder (per fight) Pretty much.... He too big, he should stay a free agent for rest of his career

Smith and BJS are not creditable opponents for what DAZN was paying him. I doubt he was ever going to fight his own promoter in a fight. That's just not realistic. Jorge was the one begging for the fight after he won the belt. No, this was reported by multiple people. Those were the opponents DAZN considered as "premiere." So Canelo can't fight other champions now? Those are no longer worthy match ups? Lol that was insane as fook. I thought DAZN had higher intentions with sports & boxing specifically than that. Or maybe we are in some era where novelty fights matter more to folks with skin in the game than I'd like to believe idk. Really was insane. Glad this got situated in a timely manner and didn't drag on for months, or even years.

I mean do we have to go through this again? DAZN literally wanted this man to fight UFC fighters or DLH over credible opponents such as Callum Smith or BJS. Smith and BJS are not creditable opponents for what DAZN was paying him. I doubt he was ever going to fight his own promoter in a fight. That's just not realistic. Jorge was the one begging for the fight after he won the belt.

What good opponents? Do you want DAZN to bend over backwards to have Canelo fight scrubs when he can be fighting bigger names? DAZN gave him that big ass contract to make money and not lose money in every fight. How do you expect him to get his full value when DAZN is going to lose money because of no live gate and the numbers will be lower? Canelo should stay a free agent. I mean do we have to go through this again? DAZN literally wanted this man to fight UFC fighters or DLH over credible opponents such as Callum Smith or BJS.

Statement from @DAZNBoxing official to me on parting ways with @canelo: "The matter has been resolved to the satisfaction of all parties." DAZN wished to express Canelo the best in his future endeavors. #boxing— Dan Rafael (@DanRafael1) November 6, 2020 Nah, he may end up fighting again on DAZN one day, but it won't be in December. This was Canelo getting out of his deal with GBP and getting away from DAZN. Canelo is still very upset at how DAZN treated him and how they were turning down good potential opponents. What good opponents? Do you want DAZN to bend over backwards to have Canelo fight scrubs when he can be fighting bigger names? DAZN gave him that big ass contract to make money and not lose money in every fight. How do you expect him to get his full value when DAZN is going to lose money because of no live gate and the numbers will be lower? Canelo should stay a free agent.

I don't see him going to pbc. I could see him going to top rank/espn. I could see him going to TR for a specific fight, but not long-term. And Arum has already said that he would never give close to what DAZN gave him. Now, who knows if anyone else gives him that much but TR simply doesn't have many options for him at the moment. But down the line if Berlanga ends up being the real deal? Ohhhweeeeee (Crawford voice), that could be a MEGA fight. Al Haymon? He was good enough for Floyd and now manny I mean for next fight it looks like he will work with Haymon and PBC, but not sure he signs a long-term deal. Mikey Garcia worked with Haymon for like three or four fights but never signed a deal with him and then left to DAZN to fight Vargas. I could see Canelo doing the same.

Who's he fighting? All the best fights to make our PBC fights. Randomly Canelo vs Benavidez in a year or two would be nuts & a war. You’re right about that. But David cant keep making 168 and he’s not exactly a “huge” name. It’s be nuts for us fans. But if David cant make 168, I’d love him in against the top dogs at 75 when he fills in properly. Canelo doesnt so the whole mexican thing anymore remember? Wherever he goes, it’ll be fun - PBC of ESPN. ESPN just for the sheer spectacle of the face of boxing on ESPN. Off the top of my head, Top Rank has Murata. Eleider Alvarez at 75 which could be a calculated risk. Very winnable. Flirt with the idea (publicly) that he’d fight Beterbiev (which he wouldnt). I’m not sure If PBC would let Canelo in with Charlo for example unless there’s a good deal in place. Canelo can and will f uck off and be the only one benefitting. I’m sure they’d be MORE THAN GLAD to sacrifice half the stable if he signs a multi fight deal though

I don't see him going to pbc. I could see him going to top rank/espn.

Agree. Ryan has already been more trouble to GBP than maybe anyone with his accomplishments thus far. Just wait til he wins a belt. He's gonna be too much to deal with for GBP. I tend to doubt Ryan is with GBP in 2 years. Maybe 3 max. It's going to be interesting what DAZN wants to do in terms of investing heavy in boxing statewide. They are launching the global app soon and I'm guessing Hearn puts more cards in the UK and even takes fighters like GGG there for showdowns against Smith or BJS. It looks like that is where they are heading towards. But it will be smart for them to make Ortiz Jr and Garcia happy as both have star potential. Garcia is already a name which is super impressive considering his age and lack of resume'. But losing Canelo was a huge loss no doubt. Mannix just mentioned on his podcast and it's been mentioned before, but he said Canelo was clearly the biggest subscription driver and the only fighter people stayed on to watch. Garcia could potentially be the next big star and may take that spot one day. He has BIG leverage going forward from both GBP and DAZN.

At some point guys like canelo dont need to be signed under anyone. Just co promote on a fight by fight basis.. Like cotto floyd dlh and manny tho manny should have done it much earlier.

Being a free agent might be a good way to go. He is fighting in court now over long term contracts he signed. He is a proven money maker and boxing's biggest star and he is smart. Does he need any help to make big money?

DAZN couldn’t force Hearn to lose another Champion. We saw that Hearn failed with his Matchroom opponents in Fielding, Jacobs, and co-promo Kovalev. He was 0-3 against GBP. So he begged DAZN mgmt that BJS or Smith shouldn’t happen or else the Matchroom USA portfolio would continue to drop. Instead Eddie persuaded DAZN mgmt that he would save Smith and BJS for the DAZN UK launch forward. It’s all politics. DAZN liked Eddie’s plan so they refused to give GBP the premium 30% cut by design, knowing that Canelo wouldn’t accept it. Hearn could have been pulling the strings, sure. But the point is Canelo isn't fighting on DAZN in December. Look at the statement made by a DAZN official to Rafael.

I guess it depends on who he wants to fight most. If PBC refuses to do business outside of the reservation, he won't get Charlo, Plant or Spence. If he signs with SHO it may be harder to get fights with Top Rank or other fighters.

So what happens with Golden Boy? GBP and DAZN are working out a deal so not much should change. They do need to focus on Garcia and Ortiz Jr as the future of the brand. Only thing with Garcia is that he is obviously close with Canelo and his attorney is the same one as Canelo's I believe. He may try to break out of his deal soon enough. But if I'm DAZN and GBP, I make sure I keep this guy happy and give him what he wants.

Guys, Canelo will still be fighting on DAZN in December. DAZN is starting their Global Launch in December. They need Canelo’s introduction for this premier debut in 200 markets Canelo will probably fight a Matchroom fighter, maybe Smith or BJS. The reason why Plant is being thrown out there by Team Canelo is to see which network will fork up a guarantee + PPV. DAZN will have to match that. Canelo wins again. If ESPN are truly desperate to push their boxing they might offer Canelo a super deal, limited, but just as good as the first Canelo contract. It will be DAZN vs ESPN bid Statement from @DAZNBoxing official to me on parting ways with @canelo: "The matter has been resolved to the satisfaction of all parties." DAZN wished to express Canelo the best in his future endeavors. #boxing— Dan Rafael (@DanRafael1) November 6, 2020 Nah, he may end up fighting again on DAZN one day, but it won't be in December. This was Canelo getting out of his deal with GBP and getting away from DAZN. Canelo is still very upset at how DAZN treated him and how they were turning down good potential opponents.

No I totally get what you're saying and I agree! Canelo should avoid getting into any long term deal with anybody and it should be fight to fight canelo is going to be forced to fight now. no more Golden boy and Dazn protection. the difference between floyd and canelo is that floyd's contract was contingent upon him fighting the best fighters in and around his weight class. Canelo wasn't willing to do that so his contract got cancelled!

PBC certainly have a lot of options for Canelo. If he is to sign a network/advisor/promotional deal, sure it would make sense to sign with the PBC. But I'm just saying, he can pull off being a FA after every fight and fighting on any network for the best fight. At PBC, rank from the following of the fights you would most want to see: -Mall Charlo -Mell Charlo -Benavidez -Plant -Spence -Derevyanchenko No I totally get what you're saying and I agree! Canelo should avoid getting into any long term deal with anybody and it should be fight to fight

So what happens with Golden Boy?

Absolutely not. Do it on a fight by fight basis. Control everything. Create a bidding war. He can do smaller fights on network TV to boost his mainstream appeal. Bigger fights on Showtime or ESPN. Whoever ponies up more.