Better heavyweight ? Haye or Usyk

Looks like you’re underestimating Usyk’s chin and defense. Chisora hits hard and managed to land quite a few big shots but Usyk took them well. It was actually Usyk who hurt Chisora towards the end of the 7th round. Hopefully Joshua fights Usyk before Fury so we can all find out if Usyk is really that good to hang with the big boys. Pretty sure we can all agree AJ is better and hits harder than a prime Haye😅 Haye was wasted he had a stinker against wlad but id take a prime haye over aj he couldnt control distance like wlad could

Usyk looks small, but division is full of robotic idio.ts with no head movement. Even top guy Joshua looks very robotic. I must repeat, if Usyk is able to take hard shots, he will perform well. If he can`t, he will get knocked out cold. The only one, I think he has zero chance against is Fury. I am pretty sure Usyk beats Povetkin and Whyte. Agreed. Fury would be extremely difficult fight for Usyk due to his size and movement. I must add AJ as well😅

Haye had no legs and his speed was gone,prime for prime he would have smashed bellew and everyone with half a brain cell surely knows that If chisora can land on usyk then a prime haye would easily land some heavy bombs on usyk and i doubt hed be able to stand up to it Looks like you’re underestimating Usyk’s chin and defense. Chisora hits hard and managed to land quite a few big shots but Usyk took them well. It was actually Usyk who hurt Chisora towards the end of the 7th round. Hopefully Joshua fights Usyk before Fury so we can all find out if Usyk is really that good to hang with the big boys. Pretty sure we can all agree AJ is better and hits harder than a prime Haye😅

Usyk is sometimes seen as a prodigy? So haye mustve been good

Usyk looks small, but division is full of robotic idio.ts with no head movement. Even top guy Joshua looks very robotic. I must repeat, if Usyk is able to take hard shots, he will perform well. If he can`t, he will get knocked out cold. The only one, I think he has zero chance against is Fury. I am pretty sure Usyk beats Povetkin and Whyte.

Haye had no legs and his speed was gone,prime for prime he would have smashed bellew and everyone with half a brain cell surely knows that If chisora can land on usyk then a prime haye would easily land some heavy bombs on usyk and i doubt hed be able to stand up to it - -Usyk already exceeded Pinky Toe Haye AMA and Pro.

I have to disagree with you here mate. Prime for prime, Haye would only have a puncher’s chance. Usyk schools him and maybe stops him late imo. I was actually rooting for Haye to really hurt Bellew when they fought. Though he was already past his prime, I was expecting him to win with his power and explosiveness alone but Tony was all wrong for him Haye had no legs and his speed was gone,prime for prime he would have smashed bellew and everyone with half a brain cell surely knows that If chisora can land on usyk then a prime haye would easily land some heavy bombs on usyk and i doubt hed be able to stand up to it

I suspect he'd throw a lot more than the 143 punches Haye threw against the great Valuev. Haye seems to have a bit more pop in his punch but a weaker chin. Thats another thing people say about haye,how does haye have a weaker chin? Haye was stopped at cruiserweight after blowing himself out it wasnt really his chin And then the bellew fights he was injured in both and took a lot of punishment in the first and he was way past his best before he even stepped in the ring with bellew Apart from that i cant remember anyone else rocking haye off balance a few times maybe and wlad landed some solid right hands and hayes chin stood up

Haye without a doubt. Usyk has one of the ugliest forms ive seen in Boxing and I just dont know what people see in him. Him and the stupid faces he makes I wanna see more HWs put hands on him.

Usyk still must fight top 10 hw.

Thats the thing thats being discussed ,people sleep on how good haye was just because he came up short against wlad but praise usyk when hes half the fighter haye was at heavyweight Usyk has no chance besting joshua he was getting ragdolled by and inaccurate talentless oaf last night I suspect he'd throw a lot more than the 143 punches Haye threw against the great Valuev. Haye seems to have a bit more pop in his punch but a weaker chin.

He was past his prime and he only came back to the sport for money. Prime HW Haye would spark Usyk in 6 rds. I have to disagree with you here mate. Prime for prime, Haye would only have a puncher’s chance. Usyk schools him and maybe stops him late imo. I was actually rooting for Haye to really hurt Bellew when they fought. Though he was already past his prime, I was expecting him to win with his power and explosiveness alone but Tony was all wrong for him

I’d rate them about the same. One rung below the elite HW’s of their day.

It’s completely unfair to judge who is better at the moment.. Usyk hasn’t yet taken on the highest level opponents. Haye failed when he took on the very best let’s not forget Thats the thing thats being discussed ,people sleep on how good haye was just because he came up short against wlad but praise usyk when hes half the fighter haye was at heavyweight Usyk has no chance besting joshua he was getting ragdolled by and inaccurate talentless oaf last night

Haye threw so few punches in his championship fights vs Wlad and Valuev after all the trash talk. Would have to see how Usyk does vs a top heavyweight before I can say for sure.

Haye all day. Usyk is very overrated and I'm not a fan. I feel like a guy his size should be a lot better at turning over more weight in his punches. Primw Haye is a top 10 heavyweight in any era. I can't say the same for Usyk

Usyk beats him for sure at cruiserweight but IDK about hw

I'd favour Usyk to beat Haye 3 times outta 4 but I'd give Haye a better chance of beating the real big Heavies, so yeah. That. Just wanted to write something similar. Haye had more power and was therefore more of a threat at HW, but his chin was not that great at all. Maybe Usyk's chin isn't great either at HW, but I guess we will just have to wait and see. It's nonsense by the way to that Chisora is oh so slow - before he gassed he showed good handspeed (in particular for his age). He also hit Haye a couple of times clean in their fight, and Haye had good head movement and reflexes. I still think that Usyk will have a hard getting any part of the HW title. He is (decently sized) CW, no HW.

Haye by a wide margin. You can’t teach power and speed. Haye put a younger Chisora to sleep. Usyk went life and death against a 40-yr old Chisora. Haye got destroyed by Bellew though, not once but twice. the same guy Usyk put to sleep lol

I'd favour Usyk to beat Haye 3 times outta 4 but I'd give Haye a better chance of beating the real big Heavies, so yeah. That.