So lopez basically beat the smaller commey whose best win is mid 30s beltran and lomachenko whose a natural 126-130 and people are saying hes p4p but i barely see anyone mention taylor whose past 5 opponents had a combined record of like 110-1, 3 of which were world champs/former champs and won the ali trophy never being mentioned. Whats with the double standards?
No,YOUR logic is flawed because you completely missed my point. Teofimo beat 2 good fighters in his weight class commey and loma
Hurd beat harrison who went to dethrone charlo, beat trout a solid name then went on to hand lara his first clear L in many peoples eyes. Lara was considered by a load of hardcore fans a p4p fighter who should have had canelo and paul williams on his resume. Loma lost to salido.
Try using your brain sometime and not looking at surface level all the time.
I was being civilized to you but oh well.
You’re an idiot. At the time Hurd fought Harrison, Trout and Lara, none of them were anywhere near the top ten. If you think that’s equal to Lopez beating Loma who was at least #2 then you’re too stupid to have intelligent boxing conversations with. You are the weakest link. Good bye......
Lol and wtf has Taylor done to deserve it???? Lol
Navarette deserves it more than him.
What has taylor done? Maybe you should have read what i just said. Taylor just won the ali trophy, 5 of his last opponents have a combined record of 110-1 3 of which were world champs/former world champs. And hes only had 17 fights.
Taylors resume;
prograis, baranchyk, ryan martin, viktor postol, ohara davies, miguel vasquez
Navarette resume;
5ft2 dogboe
In 32 fights hes fought a midget dogboe. Thats fkn embarassing and he has a L to a bum. He aint fit to lace taylors boot son. YDSKAB
Your logic is flawed. Harrison, Trout nor Lara were top ten. How does that equate to Lopez beating Loma who was at least 2 on every list?
No,YOUR logic is flawed because you completely missed my point. Teofimo beat 2 good fighters in his weight class commey and loma
Hurd beat harrison who went to dethrone charlo, beat trout a solid name then went on to hand lara his first clear L in many peoples eyes. Lara was considered by a load of hardcore fans a p4p fighter who should have had canelo and paul williams on his resume. Loma lost to salido.
Try using your brain sometime and not looking at surface level all the time.
none of them were on the p4p list..if you beat the #2 p4p boxer you will be a p4p fighter..pretty simple
So if inoue went up to lets say 126 pounds won a vacant belt and then lost to someone like warrington who is clearly a bigger fighter and has the frame to go to 135lbs does that make warrington a p4p fighter? No way
Thats not how p4p works maybe you should go learn how p4p works and educate yourself on boxing.
Loma was p4p because he was a champion in 3 different weights and on the list for the 4 years. Lopez diddnt do chit other than beating loma and commey. In that case hurd should have been on it when he beat harrison trout and lara.
none of them were on the p4p list..if you beat the #2 p4p boxer you will be a p4p fighter..pretty simple
Loma was p4p because he was a champion in 3 different weights and on the list for the 4 years. Lopez diddnt do chit other than beating loma and commey. In that case hurd should have been on it when he beat harrison trout and lara.
Your logic is flawed. Harrison, Trout nor Lara were top ten. How does that equate to Lopez beating Loma who was at least 2 on every list?
tyson fury beat wlad who was p4p top 3 on most lists and he didnt even get in the damn top 10.
Yes he did! Quit making up shyte to fit your agenda. Ever get tired of playing the victim?
Josh Taylor is from the UK and not USA, simple is that.
Lopez just beat Loma who was at least #2 on every p4p list, Taylor hasn’t beaten anyone even close to that stature. You are a proven racist with an anti American agenda. Taylor is both British and white (your two favorite qualities in a fighter) so that explains your incredibly ignorant point of view.
Can Josh Taylor move up to 147 and beat a washed Manny Pacquaio? or any of the top contenders? I bet Teofimo Lopez could move up to 140 and become two weight champion.
Josh Taylor is probably the only unified-champion in recent years that arguably does not belong in the top ten P4P. I envision Taylor vs. : Crawford, Inoue, Canelo, Charlo, Usyk, Estrada, or even Lomachenko and cant see Taylor beat any of them in a mythical fantasy P4P showdown, and all of them knock him out.
Skills matter.
Loma was literally p4p #2..how could Lopez not be p4p now?
Loma was p4p because he was a champion in 3 different weights and on the list for the 4 years. Lopez diddnt do chit other than beating loma and commey. In that case hurd should have been on it when he beat harrison trout and lara.
He just won all the titles and beat a p4p fighter.. Idk what else there is to say
Love to see him fight the winner of the ramirez fight at 140, I think he would be well suited for 140
Lopez is american, you haven't worked this **** out yet? Same reason one of the judges had it 119-109!
Broner was p4p early on, FFS that's all you need to know!
So lopez basically beat the smaller commey whose best win is mid 30s beltran and lomachenko whose a natural 126-130 and people are saying hes p4p but i barely see anyone mention taylor whose past 5 opponents had a combined record of like 110-1, 3 of which were world champs/former champs and won the ali trophy never being mentioned. Whats with the double standards?
I really like Josh Taylor, but he looks a bit slow and plodding TBH. However, he’s a great inside fighter and has shown he can adjust — he doesn’t get nervous either, which is huge. He reminds me a bit of Andre Ward (they both had similar styles to compensate for their short reaches), but I need to see him in more tough fights with elites. He did great against Prograis, in a fight I’d thought he’d lose ... it was still awful close though and IMO could have been scored a draw.
Let’s wait and see how he does with Ramirez. If he gets through him he has a shot against Lopez.
I Like how strongly you feel about Josh, I'm still on the fence on that one.
But, Lopez vs the winner does sound ****ing excellent.
One of those guys I watched as an amateur and saw something special in, so I’m fully driving that hype train. :lol1:
Yeah it’d be a special fight man. Like Bob Foster jumping up and fighting Frazier the two undisputed champions of each division going toe to toe. Taylor-Lopez would be a lot more competitive though. :lol1:
I always thought Roy and BHop should have done it around 2002 when both held the majority of the belts in their respective divisions.
Both are on my list. After Taylor dominates Ramirez I’d like to see Taylor vs Lopez in a battle of undisputed champs. First time it would have ever happened in the 4 belt era I believe.
So lopez basically beat the smaller commey whose best win is mid 30s beltran and lomachenko whose a natural 126-130 and people are saying hes p4p but i barely see anyone mention taylor whose past 5 opponents had a combined record of like 110-1, 3 of which were world champs/former champs and won the ali trophy never being mentioned. Whats with the double standards?
The winner of taylor/ramirez will enter the p4p top 10 on my list