Change my mind:
Teofimo Lopez just did to Vasyl Lomachenko what Tyson Fury did to Deontay Wilder last February.
In other words, just as Tyson Fury took the fight to Deontay and brutalized him (something almost nobody expected), Teofimo Lopez outboxed and outclassed Vasyl Lomachenko last night (something almost nobody expected).
Both Wilder and Lomachenko are on their downswing and have now lost their sense of aura and mystique.
Fury and Lopez, respectively, laid down the blueprints for beating those guys.
I’m not saying either of them are done, but I am saying that they will never be looked at the same way again, no matter what happens.
And oh yeah, Lomachenko is my favorite boxer. I love the guy but I have to admit the dude got dismantled last night.
Awful Comparison! Come On!
What makes it an awful comparison?
Two champions with vastly different styles, but auras of invincibility, get beat at their own game.
If you get beaten by Lopez then you're a bum, a BUM! The shame of losing to Lopez :eek:
Come on now. That’s not what I said. I am comparing Lomachenko and Wilder’s loss of aura is all. Never called either of them bums.
Well maybe you should call him and tell him that he can take Lopez punches early because he obviously doesn’t believe in himself. He was supposed to inflict pain and punish him lol. That’s what he said and you guys told me.
If I had contact I probably would actually tell Papa Chenko that their game plan in method wasn’t essentially wrong but the timing was!
He had Loma being too patient and put too much emphasis on Teo’ stamina man power fizzling late!
Loma did get to Teo through rounds 8-11 and was definitely punishing Teo in rounds 8 and 11, looked like Loma was gonna force a stoppage with the way Teo’s head was snapping back!
Like I said, if Loma starts off like he did in rounds 7-11 from round 4 he could get a stoppage since their would’ve been damage done earlier and then added on damage later!
Both men should get credit for showing something they haven’t had before like Teo’s composure and focus and Loma’s determination and chin!
Hahahahaha
The fury Loma fans now flipping it lol.
You guys are too predictable.
Wilder is a bum with zero skill fury got ktfo in th first fight and then won the rematch again against the most skilless Hw ever.
Lopez beat according to the fanboys the “#1 p4p” guy in Loma rather easily.
No debate what’s more impressive
But you guys are the Kings Of BS lol
Wow I’m not sure what you’re talking about here. That’s really rude to call someone “Kings of BS”
And say I’m flipping something, I am trying to have a legitimate talk about boxing here and stating my thoughts.
I am a Lomachenko fan, and why shouldn’t I be? I am free to follow the career of any boxer I choose. Just as you are. You don’t see me bashing you for whomever you like. As I saw last night’s fight, I have a good opinion of Lopez after how he won. I felt the same way after Fury drew with and then beat Wilder, whom I picked to beat Fury both times.
A good performance can change my mind about a fighter.
These nights I mentioned also had the feeling of “the beginning of the end” career-wise for Wilder and for Lomachenko. As I said, I didn’t say they are done, I simply drew parallels.
I really don’t understand why that’s so offensive to you.
You are clearly escalated and sound like you’re stereotyping me as/with some sort of group or viewpoint you find deplorable... Not sure if this is due to a particular boxing style you dislike and assume I support, or perhaps a specific race or ethnicity you assume I am and you hate, or any other number of unknown variables you are somehow randomly ascribing to me ... it’s quite funny, since you don’t even know me, what I look like, what the collective embodiment of my views and beliefs even on boxing are. I am hardly ever on here! (and it seems that that’s likely a good thing).
It’s people like you that I don’t understand. Always looking for some reason to put others down.
I’d be angry, but it’s more sad than anything to me.
It is regrettable we couldn’t have a reasonable conversation, which is all I really intended in the first place.
Have a nice day.
Hahahahaha
The fury Loma fans now flipping it lol.
You guys are too predictable.
Wilder is a bum with zero skill fury got ktfo in th first fight and then won the rematch again against the most skilless Hw ever.
Lopez beat according to the fanboys the “#1 p4p” guy in Loma rather easily.
No debate what’s more impressive
But you guys are the Kings Of BS lol
as far as i remember the first fight was a draw not a KO win for Wilder?
but what do i know?
I call it for what it was, he’s using the ring to gauge an angle or find proper foot separation and an accurate path to get inside!
Years from now when Loma retires, he’ll look back an regret giving away so many rounds an not fighting earlier, he proved he could take Teo’s shots cuz he was never in trouble and often landed flush punches of his own!
Well maybe you should call him and tell him that he can take Lopez punches early because he obviously doesn’t believe in himself. He was supposed to inflict pain and punish him lol. That’s what he said and you guys told me.
It’s running because he was moving and NOT THROWING ANY PUNCHES!!! it’s not like he was sticking and moving , he was just moving. What do you call that?
I call it for what it was, he’s using the ring to gauge an angle or find proper foot separation and an accurate path to get inside!
Years from now when Loma retires, he’ll look back an regret giving away so many rounds an not fighting earlier, he proved he could take Teo’s shots cuz he was never in trouble and often landed flush punches of his own!
Ruiz a short fighter and doesn't have the same height/size and won't be able to take a right hand like Fury managed to.
I like how you write it like there's no question. :rofl:
Ruiz could easily if he laid off the damn Snickers bars.
Ruiz a short fighter and doesn't have the same height/size and won't be able to take a right hand like Fury managed to.
Well we all agree that the game plan in method was wrong but understandable!
I felt Loma tools some big shots from Lopez an never seemed in trouble at all but he didn’t know if he could take the shots that’s why a rematch could be different!
I say let Lopez let off some steam on his shots for 4 rounds or so and then attack, more than that is too risky!
And why do fans say it’s running when a fighter uses the ring lol totally nondescript I would say!
Anyways I never heard anyone say Campbell hits harder than Lopez or even being better since neither has fought the other!
It’s a bit premature to say that a rematch would go the same, plenty fights went differently in a rematch but we’ll likely never know thanks to either Bob’s insistence for no rematch or Team Loma’s arrogance!
It’s running because he was moving and NOT THROWING ANY PUNCHES!!! it’s not like he was sticking and moving , he was just moving. What do you call that?
"almost" he got splatterd both times.
no other HW has the skills of Fury to execute this "blueprint"
AJ cant box like that. Whyte? lol.
Ruiz could easily if he laid off the damn Snickers bars.
"almost" he got splatterd both times.
no other HW has the skills of Fury to execute this "blueprint"
AJ cant box like that. Whyte? lol.
Skills height and athleticism
He tried to tire out Lopez. If loma stood and exchanged from rounds 1-6, he would have been put to sleep and he knows this. That’s why he was RUNNING. You couldn’t pay him to stand and trade early. All this bs about Luke Campbell being better and having more power than Lopez. Lomachenko doesn’t think so. He stalked Campbell and was willing to exchange early.
Well we all agree that the game plan in method was wrong but understandable!
I felt Loma tools some big shots from Lopez an never seemed in trouble at all but he didn’t know if he could take the shots that’s why a rematch could be different!
I say let Lopez let off some steam on his shots for 4 rounds or so and then attack, more than that is too risky!
And why do fans say it’s running when a fighter uses the ring lol totally nondescript I would say!
Anyways I never heard anyone say Campbell hits harder than Lopez or even being better since neither has fought the other!
It’s a bit premature to say that a rematch would go the same, plenty fights went differently in a rematch but we’ll likely never know thanks to either Bob’s insistence for no rematch or Team Loma’s arrogance!
There’s no way to know this unless they rematch and both Teo and pops don’t want it cuz they feel they easily beat Loma and feel rightly slighted than Team Loma said they can’t get a rematch but I also heard it Bob who didn’t want the rematch in it!
When Loma came forward an put pressure on Teo by throwing with him, he was catching Lopez with flush shots in combinations!
It can go many ways, Lopez stops him or maybe Loma stops Lopez, Loma needs a extra eye an ear in the corner to tell him go for the jugular cuz it’s all or nothing!
He tried to tire out Lopez. If loma stood and exchanged from rounds 1-6, he would have been put to sleep and he knows this. That’s why he was RUNNING. You couldn’t pay him to stand and trade early. All this bs about Luke Campbell being better and having more power than Lopez. Lomachenko doesn’t think so. He stalked Campbell and was willing to exchange early.