Next division to establish a new championship lineage?

That's plenty fair. Lots of time Lineal is made personal and I had assumed this is the case here. My mistake bud. Food for thought, Corbett retired before he fought Fitzsimmons and gave his belt to a man called Maher. By the time Fitzs fought Corbett, Corbett's title was held by Sharkey. I think it is interesting folks strip champions for retirements but recognize past retired champions reigning through their retirements. Pac in this case, Fury before his Wilder-II fight, etc. It comes up here and there. I'd understand vacating the division or retiring as a means to end a reign if it was a means to end a reign every time it came up. It isn't. So one has to wonder how you pick and choose whose retirements or vacations equate to the end of their reign and whose do not without just being told. I'm not trying to be a dick, argue, or anything disruptive. Just thought you might find the info interesting. I may be seen as a parody account here, but IRL I've done some research regarding the lineal championships since around 2018... How we view retirement or abdication during the early days of Queensberry rules have changed over the years due to how boxing scene has evolved, and how rankings are more apparent and subjective these days... Before NBA and The Ring started to award champions, it is very critical for the boxing historians to accurately pinpoint who's who prior to the recognized champion by those 2 en****** I mentioned...

Can you do me a favor and post who you see as the first four lineal HW champions? Who I see? I'm not the one to decide... But history shows: Sullivan, Corbett, Fitzsimmons, Jeffries... By the way, Heavyweight lineage isn't really a concern these days since we already have Fury having the recognition... Unlike in the Bantamweight division wherein the last time we had a recognized champ was in 1987 (years before I even existed)...

Inoue will insist on it. The purse issue will be solved just like how Lopez-Loma was solved. Arum knows undisputed fights are worth their money. Really hope it will push through early 2021... Would be a good supporting bout for Taylor-Ramirez... Also hoping that Teraji-Kyoguchi and Moonsri-Niyomtrong happens... I wonder if these guys are ducking each other or there are other complicated issues... Moonsri and Niyomtrong already had an exhibition match anyway...

Nope... He retired... Any forms of retirement announcement is tantamount to abdication... Bantamweight was vacant since 1987... Speaking of those 2 divisions you pointed out, coincidentally, those lineage were last held by GrandPac alongside 147... According to Mr. Mike DeLisa via an email, CBZ doesn't recognize Briedis, too... Not sure about Charlo or Lopez... I'll try asking once again at the end of the month... TBRB seems to be the only major experts panel body who doesn't recognize Charlo as the lineal champion... The Ring, LBC.com and BoxingScene had him as the lineal, ESPN and BN have him at #1 (they don't have a lineal list)... This isn't the only time TBRB doesn't recognize some universally recognized lineal champions though... They didn't recognize Darchinyan at 115, Mayweather at 147 (after beating Mosley) and Klitschko at 200+ (ater beating Chagaev) when they started in 2012... Will Inoue-Casimero still happen though? Inoue will insist on it. The purse issue will be solved just like how Lopez-Loma was solved. Arum knows undisputed fights are worth their money.

Pac isn't WW lineal? Nope... He retired... Any forms of retirement announcement is tantamount to abdication... 126 no champion since 2005 130 no champion since 2008 ^ Those two division need the champions to fight each other ASPA Bantamweight was vacant since 1987... Speaking of those 2 divisions you pointed out, coincidentally, those lineage were last held by GrandPac alongside 147... Charlo is not lineal. He's not recognized as such by TBRB or CBZ. He's The Ring champion but he wasn't ranked in the top 2 before the Rosario fight universally. TBRB and many others still had Rosario #1 and J-Rock #2. Charlo needs to beat J-Rock to be lineal. According to Mr. Mike DeLisa via an email, CBZ doesn't recognize Briedis, too... Not sure about Charlo or Lopez... I'll try asking once again at the end of the month... TBRB seems to be the only major experts panel body who doesn't recognize Charlo as the lineal champion... The Ring, LBC.com and BoxingScene had him as the lineal, ESPN and BN have him at #1 (they don't have a lineal list)... This isn't the only time TBRB doesn't recognize some universally recognized lineal champions though... They didn't recognize Darchinyan at 115, Mayweather at 147 (after beating Mosley) and Klitschko at 200+ (ater beating Chagaev) when they started in 2012... 100% it's either 140 or 118. Those are guaranteed to have undisputed next. Will Inoue-Casimero still happen though?

100% it's either 140 or 118. Those are guaranteed to have undisputed next.

Pac isn't WW lineal? 126 no champion since 2005 130 no champion since 2008 ^ Those two division need the champions to fight each other ASPA Can somebody cameout an explain this Pac lost to Horn then Horn lost to Crawford , Who in the hell is the lineal champion?? Not me dude, I didn't pay attention. I just googled lineal champions and asked. Only lineal I've ever paid attention to is HW Pacquiao is not considered lineal because he announced his retirement after the Bradley fight. Presently the lineal welterweight title is vacant and there is disagreement about who the consensus #2 is TBRB: 1. Spence 2. Pacquiao 3. Crawford Ring: 1. Spence 2. Crawford 3. Pacquiao BoxRec: 1. Spence 2. Crawford 3. Pacquiao ESPN: 1. Spence 2. Pacquiao 3. Crawford

So far, 8/17 of all boxing weight divisions have lineal champions: Fury at Heavyweight Briedis at Cruiserweight Beterbiev at Light Heavyweight Canelo at Middleweight Charlo at Jr. Middleweight Lopez at Lightweight Rigondeaux at Jr. Featherweight Estrada at Jr. Bantamweight Which division do you think will crown a new lineal champion? And what do you think are the #1 vs. #2 of the divisions without lineal champions? EDIT: I messed up with the poll, Jr. Middleweight is supposed to be Welterweight... Charlo is not lineal. He's not recognized as such by TBRB or CBZ. He's The Ring champion but he wasn't ranked in the top 2 before the Rosario fight universally. TBRB and many others still had Rosario #1 and J-Rock #2. Charlo needs to beat J-Rock to be lineal.

It's 140 next given Ramirez v Taylor is gonna happen

126 no champion since 2005 130 no champion since 2008 ^ Those two division need the champions to fight each other ASPA Pac isn't WW lineal? Can somebody cameout an explain this Pac lost to Horn then Horn lost to Crawford , Who in the hell is the lineal champion??