So is Otto Wallin suddenly a decent opponent now?

Wallin can be decent contender. He would give first L to some undefeated prospects.

I never claimed he was a world beater, however you claimed he's "the very definition of a bum" Completely false. Between ''decent'' and ''bum''.....Losing to Fury is his claim to fame.

He's no threat either. No one knew of him until Fury fought him. Had AJ fought him, doubtful Fury fans would rate him. Just because a fans favorite guy fights someone doesn't make that opponent credible. I never claimed he was a world beater, however you claimed he's "the very definition of a bum" Completely false.

Cmon mate, you know that Wallin isn't a bum. He's no threat either. No one knew of him until Fury fought him. Had AJ fought him, doubtful Fury fans would rate him. Just because a fans favorite guy fights someone doesn't make that opponent credible.

Don't be like that. I'm sure you Fury fans hold Otto in high regard. Cmon mate, you know that Wallin isn't a bum.

Prior to him fighting Fury, did anyone know he was even a boxer ?

Why is that? Is it the one loss he had against many would argue the best at heavyweight. He's old at 35 based on twitch athleticism the longer he waits to fight the worse he'll look. Yes he lost to best fighter but the only advantage he'll is his devastating right hand which the slower he gets he'll be unable to land.

Wallin should fight Ruiz or Fury but Wilder should be iced out by this point. Why is that? Is it the one loss he had against many would argue the best at heavyweight.

Wallin should fight Ruiz or Fury but Wilder should be iced out by this point.

Wilder is uninteresting without a title, he shouldn't get paid but 400k for no name fightes and against white at most 2 million. Like I have never been uninterested in a fighter as much as Wilder.

So are you. Don't be like that. I'm sure you Fury fans hold Otto in high regard.

Hes a mediocre fringe top 15-20 kinda guy who got lucky with the cut and still lost about 10 rounds. I wouldn't call a top 15-20 guy mediocre but yes, he still lost decisively to Fury. He did do better than expected though.

When you have the opportunity to face Oscar Rivas or Andy Ruiz Junior? It is unacceptable that Fury would face Wallin again. Anthony Joshua seems to be held to a higher standard of performance than Tyson Fury. I was talking about Otto Wallin in general, not specifically as an opponent for Tyson Fury. I don't have any desire to see Fury-Wallin 2 and yes I would rather see Fury face an Oscar Rivas or Andy Ruiz instead.

Yeah, I just got Redeemer on this one. Maybe y'all didn't pay attention as well as you thought? Probably not. I tend to pay more attention to independent rankings than the alphabet orgs.

Indeed. he did it better against Fury than Wilder in 2 fights. Wilder - Wallin is 50 -50 fight.

He did better against Fury than Wilder so there's that.

Wallin is a solid fighter. He did better than expected against Tyson Fury and I think he has decent skills. Is he a world-beater? No, but I think he's a C+ level fighter who could be a B- on a good day. When you have the opportunity to face Oscar Rivas or Andy Ruiz Junior? It is unacceptable that Fury would face Wallin again. Anthony Joshua seems to be held to a higher standard of performance than Tyson Fury.

He's a bum until proven otherwise but if wilder can beat him more devastatingly than fury did surely that's a good thing for wilder self esteem

Otto is the definition of bum. So are you.

His performance against Fury showed us he is a very tough proposition for anyone. Dirty as **** and tough as nails.